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Stance on Abortion

Pro-Choice (For Abortion)
503
65%
Pro-Life (Against Abortion)
203
26%
Neither/Other (Explain Below)
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9%
 
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Stance on Abortion?

Postby Ulvena » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:46 pm

Considering that one of the hot topic amongst religious and political folk is the idea of abortion, what does the NationStates community think about it? Are you Pro-Choice or Pro-Life? Also, why?

For myself, I'm very Pro-Choice. Women who are raped would almost always want to get rid of the child. For obvious reasons. But not just that. If a woman can't financially support the child for example. Rather than bring a child into this world who will spend all his/her time starving or living miserably with his/her parents also living miserably, why not alleviate the problem from happening in the first place? Same with really severe mental defects like if the child is born with an incurable disease or mental defect that keeps them from performing basic human functions.

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Postby Noobubersland » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:47 pm

Oh dear not again...
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Postby Judepenic Empire Of God Jehovah » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:48 pm

Its a human(the fetus),so its still in the section of murder.
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Postby The Jahistic Unified Republic » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:48 pm

Christ's sake *head desk* Pro-Life, except for when the mother's life is in danger. What happened to the last abortion thread.
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Postby Unilisia » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:48 pm

Pro-choice.
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Postby Mavorpen » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:48 pm

I eat babies.
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Postby Aquophia » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:49 pm

No one cares about this anymore! >:(

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:49 pm

Pro-choice.
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Postby Judepenic Empire Of God Jehovah » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:49 pm

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Postby Seleucas » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:49 pm

Agnostic on this issue; both sides annoy me with their rhetoric, and I don't consider this issue very important.
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Postby Mavorpen » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:49 pm

Judepenic Empire Of God Jehovah wrote:Its a human(the fetus),so its still in the section of murder.


Hahahahaha. No.
murder Pronunciation: /ˈməːdə/

Definition of murder
noun
1the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another:
the brutal murder of a German holidaymaker
[mass noun]:
he was put on trial for attempted murder
2 [mass noun] informal a very difficult or unpleasant task or experience:
the 40-mile-per-hour winds at the summit were murder
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Milks Empire » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:49 pm

Pro-minding-my-own-business.

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Postby Norstal » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:49 pm

I don't care. No one should care. No fucks in this world should be spent on this issue and people need to stay off other people's business.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:50 pm

Judepenic Empire Of God Jehovah wrote:Its a human(the fetus),so its still in the section of murder.

This. Killing a human is wrong. Women try to get away with it by saying its not human, or saying that if its legal its not murder. Its murder plain and simple, not to mention immoral.
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Postby Mavorpen » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:50 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Judepenic Empire Of God Jehovah wrote:Its a human(the fetus),so its still in the section of murder.

This. Killing a human is wrong. Women try to get away with it by saying its not human, or saying that if its legal its not murder. Its murder plain and simple, not to mention immoral.


Mavorpen wrote:Hahahahaha. No.
murder Pronunciation: /ˈməːdə/

Definition of murder
noun
1the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another:
the brutal murder of a German holidaymaker
[mass noun]:
he was put on trial for attempted murder
2 [mass noun] informal a very difficult or unpleasant task or experience:
the 40-mile-per-hour winds at the summit were murder
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Slarvainian » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:51 pm

Legally my country says that life begins as the baby exits the womb.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:51 pm

Denying women access to abortion services is abominable. Ceterum censeo Carthaginem delendam esse.

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Postby Retro Lyra » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:51 pm

Abortion should be done within the first trimester, otherwise it is murder.
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Postby Retro Lyra » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:52 pm

Slarvainian wrote:Legally my country says that life begins as the baby exits the womb.


This isn't an IC thread.
The IC name is Rlyra.

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Retro Lyra wrote:So, does this mean that since I'm white and my boyfriend is spanish he's going to rob all my money from me, scream "Hasta la vista!", and drive off into the sunset in a stolen car? Good to know.

Any time now, Lyra. Any time. Watch your car keys.

And your weed stash.

And your bedroom door. Chances are, he'll rape you first, the Genocidal Bastard.

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Postby The Jahistic Unified Republic » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:52 pm

Retro Lyra wrote:Abortion should be done within the first trimester, otherwise it is murder.

I could live with this in an imperfect world.

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Postby Milks Empire » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:53 pm

Slarvainian wrote:Legally my country says that life begins as the baby exits the womb.

Retro Lyra wrote:Abortion should be done within the first trimester, otherwise it is murder.

You better be talking about RL because General is strictly OOC.

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Postby New Nassrau » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:53 pm

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Postby Slarvainian » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:54 pm

Retro Lyra wrote:
Slarvainian wrote:Legally my country says that life begins as the baby exits the womb.


This isn't an IC thread.


Oh no my actual RL country says that
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:54 pm

Retro Lyra wrote:Abortion should be done within the first trimester, otherwise it is murder.

I very much doubt abortions, even illegally performed, are ever actually murder.

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Postby Hamste » Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:54 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Judepenic Empire Of God Jehovah wrote:Its a human(the fetus),so its still in the section of murder.

This. Killing a human is wrong. Women try to get away with it by saying its not human, or saying that if its legal its not murder. Its murder plain and simple, not to mention immoral.


That issues the question if a thing doesn't think and has never thought is it still inmoral to kill it?
Can you imagine a world without hypothetical situtations?

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