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Americans: Are you Conservative or Liberal?

Conservative
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29%
Liberal
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49%
Neither
34
23%
 
Total votes : 150

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Postby Milks Empire » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:21 am

Castille de Italia wrote:
Tekania wrote:Someone who isn't insane?

So, Bachmann?

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Postby Tekania » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:22 am

Castille de Italia wrote:
Tekania wrote:
Someone who isn't insane?

So, Bachmann?


Personally, I'm voting for Obama. The only way I'd remotely consider the idea of voting for Bachmann is if she was running against Cthulu.... though I'd have to take some time to think about it.
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Postby Norstal » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:23 am

Castille de Italia wrote:
Tekania wrote:
Someone who isn't insane?

So, Bachmann?

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Postby Milks Empire » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:25 am

Tekania wrote:
Castille de Italia wrote:So, Bachmann?

Personally, I'm voting for Obama. The only way I'd remotely consider the idea of voting for Bachmann is if she was running against Cthulu.... though I'd have to take some time to think about it.

I wouldn't vote for Bachmann if HITLER were running. And Hitler would gas me.

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Postby Tekania » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:27 am

Milks Empire wrote:
Tekania wrote:Personally, I'm voting for Obama. The only way I'd remotely consider the idea of voting for Bachmann is if she was running against Cthulu.... though I'd have to take some time to think about it.

I wouldn't vote for Bachmann if HITLER were running. And Hitler would gas me.


I said consider...... and I'd have to put some time in thought to it.... I didn't say she would be a shoe-in even then ;)

Thought, yeah.... Hitler-Bachmann... Hitler hands down
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Postby Castille de Italia » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:28 am

Tekania wrote:
Castille de Italia wrote:So, Bachmann?


Personally, I'm voting for Obama. The only way I'd remotely consider the idea of voting for Bachmann is if she was running against Cthulu.... though I'd have to take some time to think about it.

Well, you believe that everyone should have the same standard of healthcare? That's socialist...
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Postby Risottia » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:30 am

Danbershan wrote:...are you a conservative or a liberal?


I'm a commie ffs.
Really, the available political choices in American look every day more like Coke vs Pepsi.
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Postby Milks Empire » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:31 am

Castille de Italia wrote:Well, you believe that everyone should have the same standard of healthcare? That's socialist...

No no no no no no NO! :palm:
Socialism is one thing and one thing only - that working people should own and run the means of production. NOTHING ELSE.

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Postby Tekania » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:37 am

Castille de Italia wrote:
Tekania wrote:
Personally, I'm voting for Obama. The only way I'd remotely consider the idea of voting for Bachmann is if she was running against Cthulu.... though I'd have to take some time to think about it.

Well, you believe that everyone should have the same standard of healthcare? That's socialist...


Socialism isn't a dirty word to me.... I happen to be a Parecon.
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Postby Free South Califas » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:37 am

If you live in the US and have the opportunity, you should go to one of the cities erupting in protest in Mexico. Bring someone who can translate if you don't speak Spanish, and go see what people are saying about their media and government. It's astounding how much more educated the average unemployed Mexican youth is about politics and the structure of their society than I've seen in the American political conversation.

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Postby Castille de Italia » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:38 am

Milks Empire wrote:
Tekania wrote:Personally, I'm voting for Obama. The only way I'd remotely consider the idea of voting for Bachmann is if she was running against Cthulu.... though I'd have to take some time to think about it.

I wouldn't vote for Bachmann if HITLER were running. And Hitler would gas me.

Well, I wouldn't blame Hitler. Homosexuality is... Well, let me quote Bachmann here: "sexual dysfunction," "sexual identity disorders," and "personal enslavement" that leads to "sexual anarchy."
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Postby Milks Empire » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:40 am

Castille de Italia wrote:
Milks Empire wrote:I wouldn't vote for Bachmann if HITLER were running. And Hitler would gas me.

Well, I wouldn't blame Hitler. Homosexuality is... Well, let me quote Bachmann here: "sexual dysfunction," "sexual identity disorders," and "personal enslavement" that leads to "sexual anarchy."

Bachmann is full of shit. And at least Hitler would be honest about what he really wants to happen to us.

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Postby Castille de Italia » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:42 am

Milks Empire wrote:
Castille de Italia wrote:Well, I wouldn't blame Hitler. Homosexuality is... Well, let me quote Bachmann here: "sexual dysfunction," "sexual identity disorders," and "personal enslavement" that leads to "sexual anarchy."

Bachmann is full of shit. And at least Hitler would be honest about what he really wants to happen to us.

At least I am too. Genocide should acceptable in one case: Destroying the sin known as homosexuality.
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Postby Milks Empire » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:43 am

Castille de Italia wrote:
Milks Empire wrote:Bachmann is full of shit. And at least Hitler would be honest about what he really wants to happen to us.

At least I am too. Genocide should acceptable in one case: Destroying the sin known as homosexuality.

Murder is worse, the last time I checked. ;)

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Postby Castille de Italia » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:49 am

Milks Empire wrote:
Castille de Italia wrote:At least I am too. Genocide should acceptable in one case: Destroying the sin known as homosexuality.

Murder is worse, the last time I checked. ;)

Not in the case of homosexuality.

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Postby Tekania » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:51 am

Castille de Italia wrote:
Milks Empire wrote:Bachmann is full of shit. And at least Hitler would be honest about what he really wants to happen to us.

At least I am too. Genocide should acceptable in one case: Destroying the sin known as homosexuality.


Albeit, the action would be unchristian.
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Postby Castille de Italia » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:52 am

Tekania wrote:
Castille de Italia wrote:At least I am too. Genocide should acceptable in one case: Destroying the sin known as homosexuality.


Albeit, the action would be unchristian.

Ahem...

"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."
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Postby Tekania » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:55 am

Castille de Italia wrote:
Tekania wrote:
Albeit, the action would be unchristian.

Ahem...

"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."
- Leviticus 18:22, KJV


Irrelevant, Christ fulfilled the law. We are to preach Christ, because through Him is salvation.... running around killing people is anti-christian. You're an unrepentant sinner who is destined for eternal damnation.
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Postby Risottia » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:56 am

Castille de Italia wrote:
Tekania wrote:
Albeit, the action would be unchristian.

Ahem...

"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."
- Leviticus 18:22, KJV


And it goes on calling for stoning. Ancient fundie texts from Middle East promoting hatred violence and illegality, colour me surprised... :D
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Postby Volnotova » Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:59 am

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Socially: Libertarian
Economically: Laissez-Faire

Tekania wrote:
Castille de Italia wrote:Ahem...

"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."
- Leviticus 18:22, KJV


Irrelevant, Christ fulfilled the law. We are to preach Christ, because through Him is salvation.... running around killing people is anti-christian. You're an unrepentant sinner who is destined for eternal damnation.


Where did Jesus speak of people being condemned to eternal damnation for (running around) killing people?
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Postby Castille de Italia » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:00 am

Tekania wrote:
Castille de Italia wrote:Ahem...

"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."
- Leviticus 18:22, KJV


Irrelevant, Christ fulfilled the law. We are to preach Christ, because through Him is salvation.... running around killing people is anti-christian. You're an unrepentant sinner who is destined for eternal damnation.

Yeah, and the Pope isn't corrupt...
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Postby Tekania » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:01 am

Volnotova wrote:Politically: Anti-Statist Oligarchic Factionalist
Socially: Libertarian
Economically: Laissez-Faire

Tekania wrote:
Irrelevant, Christ fulfilled the law. We are to preach Christ, because through Him is salvation.... running around killing people is anti-christian. You're an unrepentant sinner who is destined for eternal damnation.


Where did Jesus speak of people being condemned to eternal damnation for (running around) killing people?


Anyone in unrepentant sin is condemned eternally. If he was a repentant sinner he wouldn't be advocating running around killing people.
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Postby Samuraikoku » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:01 am

I've been defined as a liberal.

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Postby Castille de Italia » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:02 am

Tekania wrote:
Volnotova wrote:Politically: Anti-Statist Oligarchic Factionalist
Socially: Libertarian
Economically: Laissez-Faire



Where did Jesus speak of people being condemned to eternal damnation for (running around) killing people?


Anyone in unrepentant sin is condemned eternally. If he was a repentant sinner he wouldn't be advocating running around killing people.

Ahem...

Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them.
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Postby Volnotova » Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:02 am

Risottia wrote:
Castille de Italia wrote:Ahem...

"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."
- Leviticus 18:22, KJV


And it goes on calling for stoning. Ancient fundie texts from Middle East promoting hatred violence and illegality, colour me surprised... :D


How can you lie with mankand in the same way as with womankind? It is categorically and physically impossible.

Oh, and before you are going to shout. "But what about Paulus!?". Paulus used a word different than homosexuality(A word he might either have made up him self or which of the meaning might have been lost over the centuries).

Also note that homosexuality and bisexuality occurr in nature, thus no argument against nature here please. ;)

And before you say "But we are not animalistic savages!", well, do you know what other beings kill each other? Animals.

Have a nice day. ;)
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