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by Ashmoria » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:46 am
by Cabra West » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:49 am
Ashmoria wrote:i cant honestly imagine why anyone moves from their country of origin other than the most extreme reasons.
there IS no best place to live. it seems crazy to me that anyone might look at a list and say "ill move to one of the top 5" or "yikes, my country is near the bottom id better emigrate"
this is not intended as criticism of anyone who has moved or plans to move. it just means i dont understand the impulse.
by Muravyets » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:54 am
by Muravyets » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:56 am
Ashmoria wrote:i cant honestly imagine why anyone moves from their country of origin other than the most extreme reasons.
there IS no best place to live. it seems crazy to me that anyone might look at a list and say "ill move to one of the top 5" or "yikes, my country is near the bottom id better emigrate"
this is not intended as criticism of anyone who has moved or plans to move. it just means i dont understand the impulse.
by Neesika » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:24 am
by The Atlantian islands » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:27 am
by The Atlantian islands » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:28 am
by Cabra West » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:28 am
Neesika wrote:I'm not going to say Canada is the best country to live, because though I've spent significant amounts of time in other countries here in the Americas, I haven't REALLY lived outside of Canada. However, I'm going to say that so far, Montreal (Quebec) is absolutely the best place I've lived in Canada, and I recommend it highly. I could go on at length, but let me summarize: microbreweries galore, best bagels in the world, liberal/artsy/politically active people, kid-friendly, people-friendly (as opposed to car-friendly), multicultural/multilinguistic and full of good looking people. On top of all the other benefits of living in Canada (public healthcare/education/etc).
I invite you to not believe me and check it out yourselves.
by Muravyets » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:28 am
The Atlantian islands wrote:
Not at all. Though if your flag is any indication of your real life political views, I wouldn't be suprisd if you don't beleive in America.
by The Atlantian islands » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:29 am
Neesika wrote:I'm not going to say Canada is the best country to live, because though I've spent significant amounts of time in other countries here in the Americas, I haven't REALLY lived outside of Canada. However, I'm going to say that so far, Montreal (Quebec) is absolutely the best place I've lived in Canada, and I recommend it highly. I could go on at length, but let me summarize: microbreweries galore, best bagels in the world, liberal/artsy/politically active people, kid-friendly, people-friendly (as opposed to car-friendly), multicultural/multilinguistic and full of good looking people. On top of all the other benefits of living in Canada (public healthcare/education/etc).
I invite you to not believe me and check it out yourselves.
by Neesika » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:29 am
The Atlantian islands wrote:
Absolutely not.. Name me one country that offers more opportunity than the USA.
by Cabra West » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:30 am
The Atlantian islands wrote:
Absolutely not.. Name me one country that offers more opportunity than the USA.
by Neesika » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:31 am
The Atlantian islands wrote:I'd like to visit one of these days, as I've only been to, and know people from, Anglo-Canada . . . and it was / there are basically the same as America[ns] . . . which is not a bad thing.
by The Atlantian islands » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:32 am
Cabra West wrote:The Atlantian islands wrote:
Absolutely not.. Name me one country that offers more opportunity than the USA.
I've got a feeling that the answer here will depend on how you count "opportunities".
See, Ireland offered me an opportunity to move here, start working in a new field, and build a living here.
The US wouldn't offer me this opportunity.
by Hydesland » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:32 am
Cabra West wrote:I've got a feeling that the answer here will depend on how you count "opportunities".
See, Ireland offered me an opportunity to move here, start working in a new field, and build a living here.
The US wouldn't offer me this opportunity.
by Neesika » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:33 am
The Atlantian islands wrote:1. Saying that the U.S.A offers the most opportunity in the world does not mean that opportunity does not exist elewhere as well.
2. How would "the US" not offer you that opportunity? Wouldn't it depend on the company . . . ?
by The Atlantian islands » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:34 am
Muravyets wrote:I don't believe in America, either.
by The Atlantian islands » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:35 am
Neesika wrote:The Atlantian islands wrote:I'd like to visit one of these days, as I've only been to, and know people from, Anglo-Canada . . . and it was / there are basically the same as America[ns] . . . which is not a bad thing.
Humans are basically the same everywhere, except for all the ways in which they are different from one another.
by Cabra West » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:36 am
The Atlantian islands wrote:1. Saying that the U.S.A offers the most opportunity in the world does not mean that opportunity does not exist elewhere as well.
2. How would "the US" not offer you that opportunity? Wouldn't it depend on the company . . . ?
by The Atlantian islands » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:36 am
Neesika wrote:The Atlantian islands wrote:1. Saying that the U.S.A offers the most opportunity in the world does not mean that opportunity does not exist elewhere as well.
2. How would "the US" not offer you that opportunity? Wouldn't it depend on the company . . . ?
In what sense are you talking about the US? To what extent to you attribute corporate power to the 'US' and to what extent do you believe they are separate from the 'US'?
by Neesika » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:36 am
The Atlantian islands wrote:Muravyets wrote:I don't believe in America, either.
Your loss. Really.
I do beleive in America and the American dream . . . with good reason. Family members of mine have lived it and really made it from nothing. It is no myth, and it re-enforces my admiration for the American way that the way these people suceeded could not have happend elsewhere.
by The Alma Mater » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:36 am
The Atlantian islands wrote:
Absolutely not.. Name me one country that offers more opportunity than the USA.
by Hydesland » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:37 am
Cabra West wrote:Not really... it would have been serious hassle for me to move to the US, the buerocracy would have been prohibitive.
Whereas Ireland, no buerocracy for me at all. I simply showed up and found a job within days, which by now has turned into a nice little career.
by Neesika » Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:37 am
The Atlantian islands wrote:
You're missing the point. My point was that in my experience Anglo-Canadians and Americans were basically the same, and I know that Quebec is much, much more different..and that interests me.
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