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Best place to live?

Postby Cabra West » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:45 am

Which country do you think is the best place to live at the moment?
I recently stumbled upon this : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index, and it made me wonder. Apparently, I made a very good choice by living in Ireland.
Do you agree with the ranking your place of residence received? Would you consider moving to a better country?
"I was walking along the bank of a stream when I saw a mother otter with her cubs. A very endearing sight, and as I watched, the mother otter dived into the water and came up with a plump salmon, which she subdued and dragged on to a half-submerged log. As she ate it, while of course it was still alive, the body split and I remember to this day the sweet pinkness of its roes as they spilled out, much to the delight of the baby otters who scrambled over themselves to feed on the delicacy. One of nature’s wonders: mother and children dining upon mother and children. And that’s when I first learned about evil. It is built in to the very nature of the universe. If there is any kind of supreme being, I told myself, it is up to all of us to become his moral superior."

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Postby Hydesland » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:49 am

I don't really think that index denotes a good indication of best place to live, it's too generalised. The best place to live can depend heavily on your socio-economic status as well, so being poor in the USA is much worse than being poor in Sweden, but being rich in the US is far better than being rich in Sweden (speaking very generally here).
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Postby NERVUN » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:49 am

All in all, I think Japan is in the top 10, though I'm not sure it should BE number 10. I'm not all that interested in moving at this particular point in time, though I wouldn't mind trying Ireland one day.
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Postby Peisandros » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:51 am

New Zealand. I enjoyed my trip to Ireland, but I couldn't see myself spending more than a few years there.
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Postby Cabra West » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:51 am

Hydesland wrote:I don't really think that index denotes a good indication of best place to live, it's too generalised. The best place to live can depend heavily on your socio-economic status as well, so being poor in the USA is much worse than being poor in Sweden, but being rich in the US is far better than being rich in Sweden (speaking very generally here).


I think this index is actually slightly tilted towards the situation of those less well-off. One of the criteria is the level of analphabetism, another is life expectancy...
"I was walking along the bank of a stream when I saw a mother otter with her cubs. A very endearing sight, and as I watched, the mother otter dived into the water and came up with a plump salmon, which she subdued and dragged on to a half-submerged log. As she ate it, while of course it was still alive, the body split and I remember to this day the sweet pinkness of its roes as they spilled out, much to the delight of the baby otters who scrambled over themselves to feed on the delicacy. One of nature’s wonders: mother and children dining upon mother and children. And that’s when I first learned about evil. It is built in to the very nature of the universe. If there is any kind of supreme being, I told myself, it is up to all of us to become his moral superior."

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Postby The Atlantian islands » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:56 am

USA . . . for the sheer amount of opportunity to make whatever life for yourself you wish.
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Postby LOL ANARCHY NUBZ » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:56 am

Beatiful, sunny London. ;)
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Postby Dhammonia » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:57 am

what does "Human development" really mean?
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Postby LOL ANARCHY NUBZ » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:57 am

The Atlantian islands wrote:USA . . . for the sheer amount of opportunity to make whatever life for yourself you wish.


Bullshit.
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Postby Barringtonia » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:59 am

That's a 2007 list, I'm not sure Iceland and Ireland would be so high right now,

Given one was the sort of person who could live there, I'd say Monaco's probably quite nice,
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Postby Zoharland » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:02 am

The United States of America, if you've got the talent. :)
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Postby Cabra West » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:10 am

Barringtonia wrote:That's a 2007 list, I'm not sure Iceland and Ireland would be so high right now,

Given one was the sort of person who could live there, I'd say Monaco's probably quite nice,


Most current listings I could find, I'm afraid.
Although I have to say that personally, I have noticed very very little of the much talked-about recession and credit crunch on this island. My living standards haven't changed one bit, and I still regularly get calls with job offers. I guess that's down to me not working in building or banking, though...

I'm currently trying to find a listing of what country is happiest, overall.
"I was walking along the bank of a stream when I saw a mother otter with her cubs. A very endearing sight, and as I watched, the mother otter dived into the water and came up with a plump salmon, which she subdued and dragged on to a half-submerged log. As she ate it, while of course it was still alive, the body split and I remember to this day the sweet pinkness of its roes as they spilled out, much to the delight of the baby otters who scrambled over themselves to feed on the delicacy. One of nature’s wonders: mother and children dining upon mother and children. And that’s when I first learned about evil. It is built in to the very nature of the universe. If there is any kind of supreme being, I told myself, it is up to all of us to become his moral superior."

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Postby Verdeguay » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:20 am

Paraguay.
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Postby Hydesland » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:20 am

Cabra West wrote:I'm currently trying to find a listing of what country is happiest, overall.


Something very hard to measure.
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Postby Cabra West » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:24 am

Hydesland wrote:
Cabra West wrote:I'm currently trying to find a listing of what country is happiest, overall.


Something very hard to measure.


Well, there's this : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Planet_Index#International_rankings, but I don't trust it much. If anybody knows something better, don't be shy to post it.
"I was walking along the bank of a stream when I saw a mother otter with her cubs. A very endearing sight, and as I watched, the mother otter dived into the water and came up with a plump salmon, which she subdued and dragged on to a half-submerged log. As she ate it, while of course it was still alive, the body split and I remember to this day the sweet pinkness of its roes as they spilled out, much to the delight of the baby otters who scrambled over themselves to feed on the delicacy. One of nature’s wonders: mother and children dining upon mother and children. And that’s when I first learned about evil. It is built in to the very nature of the universe. If there is any kind of supreme being, I told myself, it is up to all of us to become his moral superior."

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Postby Alexlantis » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:37 am

I live in the USA and I'm damn well proud. I'd love to leave the country to visit, but America's my homeland. I grew up being taught all about the American revolution and Abe Lincoln. Plus, whenever I didn't eat my vegetables, my mom would give me the "starving kids in some faraway country" speech. Since I was four and had not yet developed a way for me to ship the food all the way to the faroff land I couldn't see on the family globe, I was forced to eat vegetables. Even at that age, I could tell I was well off compared to alot of people in the world. So, um, yeah. Go USA!
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Postby Cabra West » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:40 am

Alexlantis wrote:I live in the USA and I'm damn well proud. I'd love to leave the country to visit, but America's my homeland. I grew up being taught all about the American revolution and Abe Lincoln. Plus, whenever I didn't eat my vegetables, my mom would give me the "starving kids in some faraway country" speech. Since I was four and had not yet developed a way for me to ship the food all the way to the faroff land I couldn't see on the family globe, I was forced to eat vegetables. Even at that age, I could tell I was well off compared to alot of people in the world. So, um, yeah. Go USA!


Not meaning to criticise or anything, but you do know that mums all over the world will use that phrase to feed their kids?
"I was walking along the bank of a stream when I saw a mother otter with her cubs. A very endearing sight, and as I watched, the mother otter dived into the water and came up with a plump salmon, which she subdued and dragged on to a half-submerged log. As she ate it, while of course it was still alive, the body split and I remember to this day the sweet pinkness of its roes as they spilled out, much to the delight of the baby otters who scrambled over themselves to feed on the delicacy. One of nature’s wonders: mother and children dining upon mother and children. And that’s when I first learned about evil. It is built in to the very nature of the universe. If there is any kind of supreme being, I told myself, it is up to all of us to become his moral superior."

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Postby German Nightmare » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:45 am

"There's no place like home."

Although, to be honest, it doesn't have to Kansas.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:52 am

The Atlantian islands wrote:USA . . . for the sheer amount of opportunity to make whatever life for yourself you wish.


Similar (or better) opportunities exist in almost every rich country. What makes the USA special in this regard, aside from it claiming it is ?
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Postby New Dracora » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:22 am

According to this:

http://www.prosperity.com/ranking.aspx

It's Aussieland.
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Postby Samurkhan » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:24 am

Manchester, where else? Lovely town really.
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Postby Risottia » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:29 am

Cabra West wrote:Which country do you think is the best place to live at the moment?

Data given are for 2007... so meh. I think that some places, like Iceland, has lost some rankings because of the crisis.

Do you agree with the ranking your place of residence received? Would you consider moving to a better country?

:blink: Italy better than UK or Germany? WUUUUT???
Oh wait, 2007 = Prodi cabinet. Ok.

Seriously, I'd move to Germany, or to the Czech Republic.
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Postby Aelosia » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:32 am

Spain
New Zealand
Japan
My ratings in the top 100:
Aelosia is ranked 12th in the world for Lowest Unemployment Rates
Aelosia is ranked 12th in the world for Lowest Unemployment Rates
Aelosia is ranked 12th in the world for Largest Defense Forces
Aelosia is ranked 13th in the world for Most Scientifically Advanced
Aelosia is ranked 20th in the world for Most Cultured
Aelosia is ranked 24th in the world for Most Subsidized Industry
Aelosia is ranked 25th in the world for Fastest-Growing Economies
Aelosia is ranked 38th in the world for Largest Public Transport Department
Aelosia is ranked 42th in the world for Largest Publishing Industry
Aelosia is ranked 51th in the world for Largest Information Technology Sector
Aelosia is ranked 61th in the world for Largest Arms Manufacturing Sector

Factbook so far.
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Postby South Lorenya » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:32 am

Can't go wrong with suburban NY (assuming you can afford it).
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Postby Samurkhan » Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:36 am

South Lorenya wrote:Can't go wrong with suburban NY (assuming you can afford it).


Could you explain Suburban New York? All I can think of is New Rochelle and New Jersey suburbs - I can't imagine wanting to live there.
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