I Find This Disgusting, Does NationStates?

[Mavorpen]

Insensitivity is NOT required by Christianity. In the Tale of the Good Samaritan, Jesus told his followers to act neighborly to everyone, regardless of what they believed. For some perspective, Jews and Samaritans were supposed to hate each other. You should try learning about the religion before speaking on it.

And in other passages, Christ tells his followers that he who does not hate his family, and take up the road preaching the gospel is an enemy and antichrist. In another, he tells his Apostles to not think that he came to bring peace, but rather the sword.

Obviously those are just metaphors.

[Des-Bal]

And in other passages, Christ tells his followers that he who does not hate his family, and take up the road preaching the gospel is an enemy and antichrist. In another, he tells his Apostles to not think that he came to bring peace, but rather the sword.

Obviously those are just metaphors.[/quote]
In my experience everything in the bible is a metaphor unless it helps my point, then it's the divine will of god.

[Seperates]

Well, he was wrong to say the Christians were going to heaven... There is no heaven... It's a sad, hard, fact... but sometimes the truth is the hardest thing to accept. I hate things like this.

[Norstal]

Well, he was wrong to say the Christians were going to heaven... There is no heaven... It's a sad, hard, fact... but sometimes the truth is the hardest thing to accept. I hate things like this.

You lie! There is Heaven and it's right across the street. Though, I don't know why Christians think they'll go to a strip club when they die...

[Mavorpen]

Well, he was wrong to say the Christians were going to heaven... There is no heaven... It's a sad, hard, fact... but sometimes the truth is the hardest thing to accept. I hate things like this.

You lie! There is Heaven and it's right across the street. Though, I don't know why Christians think they'll go to a strip club when they die...

In Hell the strippers have STDs.

[Galiantus]

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So, Pastor Jerry Newcombe has said that only Christian victims of the tragic Colorado shooting are going to Heaven. Apparently, this is because America has lost it's fear in Hell. I cannot read this without feeling sick to my stomach. It really is, to my mind, diabolical.

'If a Christian dies early, if a Christian dies young, it seems tragic, but really it is not tragic because they are going to a wonderful place ... on the other hand, if a person doesn’t know Jesus Christ ... if they knowingly rejected Jesus Christ, then, basically, they are going to a terrible place.'

I find this vile, disgusting and insulting to the victims of the Colorado shooting. I don't know where Mr Newcombe comes from, but I pretty sure you can't insult dead people like that. Surely, after tragedy like this, the families and loved ones might turn to God for comfort and would be told that their loved one was burning in Hell. Then, after all he has said, he turns this tragedy into opportunity to covert people to Christianity.

'For those who are not ‘in Christ’ and see this incredible tragedy, this would be a good time for soul reflection and consider why have you not accepted Jesus Christ ... I would urge anyone who is not in Christ to repent of your sins.'

You've heard my opinion, now I want to hear yours. What does NationStates think?

I am not "disgusted" as the title describes, but I am saddened. If God is the perfectly merciful and just being the scriptures, and myself, say he is, he could not condemn them to he'll simply because they never knew Christ in their lives.

The only thing this pastor was right about was that if you reject Christ, after having known the truth of Him, you will be punished. But so few people can actually do that, that I strongly doubt that any of the victims had. Especially the 6 year old. She's going to heaven, no matter what.

All the victims have a better than good chance of making it to heaven.

[Hallistar]

I've always had an extremely scathing and bitter disgust of abrahamic religions. Not to mention the sheer arbitrariness and illogicality of them. Granted, I don't think that much about it each day since I deal with falsifiable problems, but there's a reason I restrict posting my real opinions of them to sites that filter nothing at all. I hate having to give people that I deal with in-person the bs illusion that I care about/respect their religion if its abrahamic.

[Des-Bal]

I've always had an extremely scathing and bitter disgust of abrahamic religions. Not to mention the sheer arbitrariness and illogicality of them. Granted, I don't think that much about it each day since I deal with falsifiable problems, but there's a reason I restrict posting my real opinions of them to sites that filter nothing at all. I hate having to give people that I deal with in-person the bs illusion that I care about/respect their religion if its abrahamic.

I've abandoned religious acceptance and gone back to plain old tolerance. The more I think about the rituals, singing, and talking to yourself the more I realize "this isn't normal and it isn't okay."

[Sedikal]

He has his right to say that under free speech and freedom of religion.

[Hallistar]

He has his right to say that under free speech and freedom of religion.

And the sky is blue.

[Norstal]

He has his right to say that under free speech and freedom of religion.

And the sky is blue.

Not at night, no.

[Hallistar]

I've always had an extremely scathing and bitter disgust of abrahamic religions. Not to mention the sheer arbitrariness and illogicality of them. Granted, I don't think that much about it each day since I deal with falsifiable problems, but there's a reason I restrict posting my real opinions of them to sites that filter nothing at all. I hate having to give people that I deal with in-person the bs illusion that I care about/respect their religion if its abrahamic.

I've abandoned religious acceptance and gone back to plain old tolerance. The more I think about the rituals, singing, and talking to yourself the more I realize "this isn't normal and it isn't okay."

I just find a dangerous delusion. Fine, whatever, they can go worship whatever invisible thing if they feel happy from it, but..damn..

[Genivaria]

And the sky is blue.

Not at night, no.

At night its black.

[Hallistar]

And the sky is blue.

Not at night, no.

Well you get the idea.

[Genivaria]

I've abandoned religious acceptance and gone back to plain old tolerance. The more I think about the rituals, singing, and talking to yourself the more I realize "this isn't normal and it isn't okay."

I just find a dangerous delusion. Fine, whatever, they can go worship whatever invisible thing if they feel happy from it, but..damn..

Well to be fair there is a difference between "Pray and this cracker will become the flesh of Jesus" and "Blood transfusions are evil".
The former is merely silly, the latter is harmful.

[Hallistar]

I just find a dangerous delusion. Fine, whatever, they can go worship whatever invisible thing if they feel happy from it, but..damn..

Well to be fair there is a difference between "Pray and this cracker will become the flesh of Jesus" and "Blood transfusions are evil".
The former is merely silly, the latter is harmful.

Agreed.

[Raven Corps]

Actually thats the base line of any religion you want to quote that deems it a requirement to believe in a certain anything to reach a "Heaven". This kind of religious talk has been happening for centuries and will continue to do so no matter how many pantie wetters cry about how "Horrible" "Christians" are. I wonder if the same out cry would have been warranted if the Dolly Lama said this? Or if Taoist monks did... Sounds like more anti-christian bandwagoning to me. LOL

[Hallistar]

Actually thats the base line of any religion you want to quote that deems it a requirement to believe in a certain anything to reach a "Heaven". This kind of religious talk has been happening for centuries and will continue to do so no matter how many pantie wetters cry about how "Horrible" "Christians" are. I wonder if the same out cry would have been warranted if the Dolly Lama said this? Or if Taoist monks did... Sounds like more anti-christian bandwagoning to me. LOL

The same kind of 'outcry' would have occured, yes. I don't see anything wrong with disliking christianity though.

[Des-Bal]

Actually thats the base line of any religion you want to quote that deems it a requirement to believe in a certain anything to reach a "Heaven". This kind of religious talk has been happening for centuries and will continue to do so no matter how many pantie wetters cry about how "Horrible" "Christians" are. I wonder if the same out cry would have been warranted if the Dolly Lama said this? Or if Taoist monks did... Sounds like more anti-christian bandwagoning to me. LOL

Right because if the Dalai Lama said that all those people went to hell we would be cheering.

[Varijnland]

If you are not Christian, why should it matter what this man says? Why should you care?

[Retro Lyra]

Isn't this consistent with Christian belief, that you accept Jesus and go to heaven when you die or reject him and go to hell? This is the dogma, I don't see this as different than what is regularly preached.

In my church, they firmly drive home the fact that he'll accept everyone into heaven. Then again, I am a Luthern, so my branch is different, I suppose.

[Norstal]

Actually thats the base line of any religion you want to quote that deems it a requirement to believe in a certain anything to reach a "Heaven".

Tobrian and Hadza Animatism. Animism.

Lrn2Anthropology.

[Des-Bal]

If you are not Christian, why should it matter what this man says? Why should you care?

Because 12 people died. He's being an enormous dick, that is not okay.

[Hallistar]

If you are not Christian, why should it matter what this man says? Why should you care?

If a muslim imam were to have preached about how Christians all over the world should be slaughtered or some other random similar example, why would all these parties and groups of Christians care? Yes I know the Christian guy didn't say non-Christians should be slaughtered or whatever, but do realize that it goes both ways.

[Raven Corps]

I believe its your willingly accepting him as your souls savior for his payment of death for your sins, so that you will not go to hell... thats what he was referring to...

And to be frank yes... I do believe it is wrong to dislike Christianity, unless you dislike the all on the grounds that your dont like religion, or on the fact it is in direct opposition to your current beliefs. This way you dont seem like a bigot