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Postby Krytenia » Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:24 am

The Archregimancy wrote:I have already done so at length, and find no post where you satisfactorily address your contention that saying last night was the greatest day in the history of British athletics is hyperbole.

There is only an exchange where Krytenia asks you to TG him your thoughts on the issue.

Since any subsequent TG exchange isn't a matter of public record, we have no basis for accepting your contention that Krytenia is 'perfectly satisfied' with your answer.

Your point that there are other measures for deciding whether last night was the greatest ever night for British athletics is a good one, but you are using it poorly.

Stating that this is the case doesn't by itself prove your point about hyperbole; to do so satisfactorily requires further elaboration.

Specifically, it requires:

A) A more detailed outlining of what those other criteria might be.

B) A specific example of a time when those other criteria were met for British athletics, and specifically British athletics, not British sport generally.

C) Using points A and B to therefore demonstrate that people are engaging in hyperbole because there are other days and nights which were demonstrably better.

Given your confidence over this point, we have no doubt you can construct this argument clearly and logically - we merely wait for you to do so on our behalf.

Disserbia TGed me, and his view is essentially that such labels take away from the humanity of the achievement. Not the answer I had in mind, but I can see his point (though I disagree) and that's fair enough. We had an interesting discussion about the men's 10000m, too.
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Postby Disserbia » Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:28 am

The Archregimancy wrote:
Disserbia wrote:I've already shared my opinion on this issue. The person whom I was having the conversation with was perfectly satisfied with my answer. Since I've already posted my opinion of this topic of discussion and told you that by looking at my previous posts you would find it, and that I did not want to post it again, why are you still quoting me, asking for my opinion? I've already told you that I don't want to go over this any more. I have no problem with the fact that you hold different criteria for measuring this and an different opinion on the issue than I do, so what is your problem with me? Please refer to my previous posts and if you have a question about them ask me, otherwise please stop quoting me I don't want to go over this again.


I have already done so at length, and find no post where you satisfactorily address your contention that saying last night was the greatest day in the history of British athletics is hyperbole.

There is only an exchange where Krytenia asks you to TG him your thoughts on the issue.

Since any subsequent TG exchange isn't a matter of public record, we have no basis for accepting your contention that Krytenia is 'perfectly satisfied' with your answer.

Your point that there are other measures for deciding whether last night was the greatest ever night for British athletics is a good one, but you are using it poorly.

Stating that this is the case doesn't by itself prove your point about hyperbole; to do so satisfactorily requires further elaboration.

Specifically, it requires:

A) A more detailed outlining of what those other criteria might be.

B) A specific example of a time when those other criteria were met for British athletics, and specifically British athletics, not British sport generally.

C) Using points A and B to therefore demonstrate that people are engaging in hyperbole because there are other days and nights which were demonstrably better.

Given your confidence over this point, we have no doubt you can construct this argument clearly and logically - we merely wait for you to do so on our behalf.

I said that just because I don't think this one stands out doesn't mean that I have to pick another specific one that I think stands out more, I never said there was a specific other day that was "greater", I simply said I don't agree with ranking achievements like this. I said this was one day that will go down in history and it was a great day, but I personally would not make a statement about what is the greatest. I am not obligated to tell you my criteria or engage in a debate with you. If you think medals are the only thing that matters, good for you, I don't share your opinion, deal with it. I didn't come here to debate I came here for a casual light hearted conversation about the olympics. Please respect this.
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Postby Nazis in Space » Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:29 am

Watching Greco-Roman wrestling atm.

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Postby Disserbia » Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:31 am

Krytenia wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:I have already done so at length, and find no post where you satisfactorily address your contention that saying last night was the greatest day in the history of British athletics is hyperbole.

There is only an exchange where Krytenia asks you to TG him your thoughts on the issue.

Since any subsequent TG exchange isn't a matter of public record, we have no basis for accepting your contention that Krytenia is 'perfectly satisfied' with your answer.

Your point that there are other measures for deciding whether last night was the greatest ever night for British athletics is a good one, but you are using it poorly.

Stating that this is the case doesn't by itself prove your point about hyperbole; to do so satisfactorily requires further elaboration.

Specifically, it requires:

A) A more detailed outlining of what those other criteria might be.

B) A specific example of a time when those other criteria were met for British athletics, and specifically British athletics, not British sport generally.

C) Using points A and B to therefore demonstrate that people are engaging in hyperbole because there are other days and nights which were demonstrably better.

Given your confidence over this point, we have no doubt you can construct this argument clearly and logically - we merely wait for you to do so on our behalf.

Disserbia TGed me, and his view is essentially that such labels take away from the humanity of the achievement. Not the answer I had in mind, but I can see his point (though I disagree) and that's fair enough. We had an interesting discussion about the men's 10000m, too.

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Postby DesAnges » Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:39 am

Another gold for the UK, good old Ben Ainslie. He almost screwed it up for a second there though.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:39 am

Disserbia wrote: I am not obligated to tell you my criteria or engage in a debate with you.


No, you're not.

But I would note that it's not generally a good idea to come into a debate site, make a specific contention, and then refuse to back that contention up with specific examples.

I would gently remind you that I specifically acknowledged that "Your point that there are other measures for deciding whether last night was the greatest ever night for British athletics is a good one".

However, you continue to use it poorly.


I don't share your opinion, deal with it. I didn't come here to debate I came here for a casual light hearted conversation about the olympics. Please respect this.


I would further gently remind you that you have no right to set the agenda in discussion.

If you start posting unsupported claims in this forum, you will be challenged, in this thread as much as any other.

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Postby Chinese Regions » Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:44 am

China's at the top again!
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Postby Kemaliste » Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:53 am

In women's volleyball, in order to qualify, either we must beat the US tonight or Serbia must beat Brazil. I can honestly say that Turkey deserved to be in the finals so we can not lose today, go fairies!
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Postby TaQud » Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:23 am

Chinese Regions wrote:China's at the top again!

>:(
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Postby DesAnges » Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:26 am

Go on China, you can beat the States...

In addition, COME ON FED, you can get back into that game.
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Postby TaQud » Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:28 am

DesAnges wrote:Go on China, you can beat the States...

Why are you rooting for Communism? (or communist country)
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Postby Hionntach » Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:31 am

TaQud wrote:
DesAnges wrote:Go on China, you can beat the States...

Why are you rooting for Communism? (or communist country)


Presumably backlash against US arrogance.

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Postby TaQud » Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:34 am

Hionntach wrote:
TaQud wrote:Why are you rooting for Communism? (or communist country)


Presumably backlash against US arrogance.

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Postby Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f » Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:37 am

Chinese Regions wrote:China's at the top again!


Cool. would be nicer though if it was Britain or the French, but China will do just fine :)
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Postby Britcan » Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:42 am

Murray is absolutely smashing Federer!

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Postby DesAnges » Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:48 am

TaQud wrote:
DesAnges wrote:Go on China, you can beat the States...

Why are you rooting for Communism? (or communist country)

I don't have to answer that, because you are acting like a spoilt brat.
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Postby Hionntach » Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:50 am

TaQud wrote:
Hionntach wrote:
Presumably backlash against US arrogance.

>:(


Yes?

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Postby Britcan » Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:14 am

And Murray takes gold!

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Postby DesAnges » Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:17 am

Britcan wrote:And Murray takes gold!

I'm a Brit, and I'm annoyed
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Postby Cyborg Holland » Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:18 am

You see the random kid who was going for an autograph from Murray as he won the Tennis Men's Singles, and Murray just hugged him. Brilliant stuff from the Scot.

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Postby Britcan » Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:19 am

DesAnges wrote:
Britcan wrote:And Murray takes gold!

I'm a Brit, and I'm annoyed

Why?

Cyborg Holland wrote:You see the random kid who was going for an autograph from Murray as he won the Tennis Men's Singles, and Murray just hugged him. Brilliant stuff from the Scot.

It looked to me like the kid was asking for a hug.

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Postby Dorics » Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:23 am

Good on Murray. Doing Scotland proud again :clap:

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Postby TaQud » Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:23 am

Dorics wrote:Good on Murray. Doing Scotland proud again :clap:

what about the rest of the UK?
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Postby Dorics » Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:25 am

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Dorics wrote:Good on Murray. Doing Scotland proud again :clap:

what about the rest of the UK?


Huh?

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Postby TaQud » Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:26 am

Dorics wrote:
TaQud wrote:what about the rest of the UK?


Huh?

doesn't scotland and Britain count as one in this olympics?
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