Muppets dump Chick-fil-a

[Laerod]

Plenty of Christians do not oppose it.

The brand of fundamentalist Christian evangelist that has taken control of much of the American right is not indicative of huge swathes of Christianity.

Yes, Christianity is an old religion and marriage is one of its fundamental beliefs. For Christians, marriage has always been between one man and one woman. Societies and governments are the ones who have added things like class and race into the equation. Marriage is one of the holiest sacraments and those of us with a spine don't believe in changing our fundamental beliefs just to be accepted by main stream culture.

I'd have figured the ban on bearing false witness was another fundamental belief, but clearly it isn't.

Just to point out how marriage hasn't been fundamental to Christianity: Marriage being a religious thing only really chrystallized during the Middle Ages with the growing power of the Church. The Holy Roman Empire in particular had mostly secular marriages in its earlier days, primarily under the authority of the heads of families (not the father of particular family units, mind you, but the pater familias, so even married sons were still under the authority of their father or grandfather). The "family unit" touted by opponents of gay marriage has undergone so many changes it is fundamentally different from the concept(s) of marriage and family from 50 years ago, let alone hundreds or thousands. To claim that marriage has been an unchanging, fundamental aspect of Christianity is to lie.

[Wikkiwallana]

Plenty of Christians do not oppose it.

The brand of fundamentalist Christian evangelist that has taken control of much of the American right is not indicative of huge swathes of Christianity.

Yes, Christianity is an old religion and marriage is one of its fundamental beliefs. For Christians, marriage has always been between one man and one woman. Societies and governments are the ones who have added things like class and race into the equation. Marriage is one of the holiest sacraments and those of us with a spine don't believe in changing our fundamental beliefs just to be accepted by main stream culture.

Funny, my fundamental belief is in doing right by my fellow man. If that means letting other people marry who they love, then I will do so gladly. The Bible itself says Love is the greatest force there is, and by God, if some worthless blind obedience to tradition is standing in the way of that, then I will stand up against that tradition. That takes a spine, unlike lashing out at change and those who are different.

[Wikkiwallana]

Here's a Venn Diagram: Business on one side and Politics on the other side. There should be no intersection.

If the Muppets dropped Chick Fil-A just because they don't support gay marriage, they're fucking stupid. Chick Fil-A announcing they're anti-gay? Fucking stupid. Do they have the right? Yes. But they're still fucking stupid. Business should work to provide the consumer with goods and services to generate revenue, not to be spokespeople for gay marriage.

We're humans, not robots. Life is not a discrete collection of objectives, it is a continuous flow of experience and meaning. Many different aspects blend together and affect each other, and is impossible to fully separate them all.