Muppets dump Chick-fil-a

[Northern Dominus]

I can help solve this, do you live in a big metropolitan area? Or if not which is the closest one?

Ft Lauderdale would be closest, but I don't want to go downtown for chicken when Popeyes is pretty awesome as it is.

Besides, I'm already aware of a fantastic small restaurant, it's called Legends and it's got great stuff and my first "eating out" option due to location, service, and quality. Plus the servers are very nice (I watched most of England and Ireland's Euro 2012 matches there)

Just not always viable.

There's no Chick-N-Grill or Yaya's near you?

[Death Metal]

Ft Lauderdale would be closest, but I don't want to go downtown for chicken when Popeyes is pretty awesome as it is.

Besides, I'm already aware of a fantastic small restaurant, it's called Legends and it's got great stuff and my first "eating out" option due to location, service, and quality. Plus the servers are very nice (I watched most of England and Ireland's Euro 2012 matches there)

Just not always viable.

There's no Chick-N-Grill or Yaya's near you?

Not that I've seen. I'm not in Ft Lauderdale mind, and only go into the city proper once in a while for Strikers games (which coincidentally happen near my old university).

[Northern Dominus]

There's no Chick-N-Grill or Yaya's near you?

Not that I've seen. I'm not in Ft Lauderdale mind, and only go into the city proper once in a while for Strikers games (which coincidentally happen near my old university).

Well at least your close to somewhere with good chicken. If you had said Jacksonville my best advice would have been "go to Miami"

[Arkinesia]

The HuffPo article states that CFA donated $2m to anti-gay groups in 2010 and the quote was simply an admission of past donations, with no actual indication as to when such donations had occurred.

Unless you can prove with sources that CFA donated to explicitly anti-gay causes after February 2011 you have no case.

Just because they haven't admitted to it doesn't mean they haven't stopped. They got called out for it once so what kind of idiot would keep donating and talking about it after the shitstorm that it created?

Now maybe if the FRC would be so kind as to release their financial records, they are 501(c) after all.

You're not getting me, holmes.

They stopped donating to anti-gay groups almost 18 months ago and have not donated to such groups since. Cathy's apology is CFA's way of saying “we won't even talk about it anymore.”

[Death Metal]

Cathy's apology is CFA's way of saying “we won't even talk about it anymore.”

Wait, when did he apologize?

[Jari Head]

There's no Chick-N-Grill or Yaya's near you?

Not that I've seen. I'm not in Ft Lauderdale mind, and only go into the city proper once in a while for Strikers games (which coincidentally happen near my old university).

just for being curious I looked up chicken places in your area. http://www.google.com/search?q=chicken+places+in+Ft+Lauderdale&oe=utf-8&oq=chicken+places+in+Ft+Lauderdale&gs_l=serp.3...141532.146574.0.148009.5.5.0.0.0.0.116.399.4j1.5.0...0.0...1c.nNBPEj_-6PI

[Arkinesia]

Cathy's apology is CFA's way of saying “we won't even talk about it anymore.”

Wait, when did he apologize?

The company released a statement on the 20th or so saying something like we don't engage in discriminatory policies and they would be bowing out of the “family causes” arena in all forms.

In February of 2011 they said that they would no longer contribute money to “family causes” which I would assume, being the spawn of a far-right conservative, that they do not intend to donate to anti-gay or anti-abortion groups. So this means they don't intend on allowing execs to verbalize their opinions on such issues from now on either.

I'll dig it up, it's somewhere in this topic.

[Transhuman Proteus]

Cathy's apology is CFA's way of saying “we won't even talk about it anymore.”

Wait, when did he apologize?

That's news to me as well. I thought he had been fairly unapologetic about the particular stance he was behind - "Guilty as charged" I thought he said.

Owning up isn't an apology.

The company invests in Christian growth and ministry through its WinShape Foundation (WinShape.com). The name comes from the idea of shaping people to be winners.

It began as a college scholarship and expanded to a foster care program, an international ministry, and a conference and retreat center modeled after the Billy Graham Training Center at the Cove.

"That morphed into a marriage program in conjunction with national marriage ministries," Cathy added.

Some have opposed the company's support of the traditional family. "Well, guilty as charged," said Cathy when asked about the company's position.

"We are very much supportive of the family -- the biblical definition of the family unit. We are a family-owned business, a family-led business, and we are married to our first wives. We give God thanks for that.

"We operate as a family business ... our restaurants are typically led by families; some are single. We want to do anything we possibly can to strengthen families. We are very much committed to that," Cathy emphasized.

"We intend to stay the course," he said. "We know that it might not be popular with everyone, but thank the Lord, we live in a country where we can share our values and operate on biblical principles.

That interview was from this month, wasn't it?

[Socialdemokraterne]

Either make a real difference in the world for those you care about or stop pretending that you are a positive force in life by not buying some fast food because a guy stuck his foot in his mouth.

I communicate with my representatives, telling them that I want a trans-inclusive version of the ENDA to pass through both houses and get presidential approval. I also tell them, in no unclear terms, that the DOMA has to go. I vote in every election. My friends and I regularly talk politics, and I've covered the topic of homosexual marriage and non-discrimination legislation in a supportive stance every time. I subscribe to LGBT newsletters (among a host of others). I sign petitions. I don't buy from Chick-fil-A. I would've participated in a local protest if I hadn't had work to do that I couldn't get out of. And I've even sent a harshly-worded (but civil) e-mail straight to the Family Research Council telling them just what I think of them.

I'd say I'm doing my part, Raeyh. That I don't buy from Chick-fil-A is only a part of my overall support of LGBT issues, and it isn't even the part that I focus on most strongly. I'd be willing to bet I'm not the only person here who is that active.

[Tmutarakhan]

Great, so a handful of people knew, good for them (oh and conservatism and religion don't necessarily belie bigotry btw). That's one example, you don't know what has or is happening at other Chick-fil-A stores, so all you know is your particular store was the exception.

Evidence points to a very public corporate culture of, once again, bigotry and support of marginalization of a minority, and since management usually hires like-minded individuals to work under them odds are that Dan Cathy isn't the only bigot in a position of power in Chick-fil-A's corporate structure.

I have two friends who work at other Chick-fil-A restaurants.

They too work or have worked with openly gay and lesbian employees.

Is it too late to point out that Truett Cathy's earlier restaurants were some of the first in Atlanta to be desegregated?

OK, so we have some actual cases. Where were these particular franchises? In locations where nondiscrimination statutes exist?

[Wikkiwallana]

Try looking up polling numbers on how many people support gay marriage in America.

I'm holding my breath waiting for an FRC or Narth poll

Who?

Try looking up polling numbers on how many people support gay marriage in America.

its like 53 - 47 against isn't it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_opi ... ted_States

[Dainer]

Cathy acted like an asshole, and now people are saying "What an asshole!" Sounds like a pretty appropriate level of reaction to me.

Ding ding we have a winner

[Northern Dominus]

I'm holding my breath waiting for an FRC or Narth poll

Who?

its like 53 - 47 against isn't it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_opi ... ted_States

Family Research Council and the National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality.. Basically the kind of deceptive bigoted hate groups that Dan Cathy probably still donates too even if he hasn't been as forthcoming about it.

[Knask]

This thread is making me hungry.

[Wikkiwallana]

Who?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_opi ... ted_States

Family Research Council and the National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality.. Basically the kind of deceptive bigoted hate groups that Dan Cathy probably still donates too even if he hasn't been as forthcoming about it.

I'm guessing they are a bunch of people who need to get laid?

[Genivaria]

I loled.

[The Black Forrest]

I loled.

Good times. Good times.......

[SaintB]

Either make a real difference in the world for those you care about or stop pretending that you are a positive force in life by not buying some fast food because a guy stuck his foot in his mouth.

I communicate with my representatives, telling them that I want a trans-inclusive version of the ENDA to pass through both houses and get presidential approval. I also tell them, in no unclear terms, that the DOMA has to go. I vote in every election. My friends and I regularly talk politics, and I've covered the topic of homosexual marriage and non-discrimination legislation in a supportive stance every time. I subscribe to LGBT newsletters (among a host of others). I sign petitions. I don't buy from Chick-fil-A. I would've participated in a local protest if I hadn't had work to do that I couldn't get out of. And I've even sent a harshly-worded (but civil) e-mail straight to the Family Research Council telling them just what I think of them.

I'd say I'm doing my part, Raeyh. That I don't buy from Chick-fil-A is only a part of my overall support of LGBT issues, and it isn't even the part that I focus on most strongly. I'd be willing to bet I'm not the only person here who is that active.

Isn't activism a wonderful feeling?

[Genivaria]

I communicate with my representatives, telling them that I want a trans-inclusive version of the ENDA to pass through both houses and get presidential approval. I also tell them, in no unclear terms, that the DOMA has to go. I vote in every election. My friends and I regularly talk politics, and I've covered the topic of homosexual marriage and non-discrimination legislation in a supportive stance every time. I subscribe to LGBT newsletters (among a host of others). I sign petitions. I don't buy from Chick-fil-A. I would've participated in a local protest if I hadn't had work to do that I couldn't get out of. And I've even sent a harshly-worded (but civil) e-mail straight to the Family Research Council telling them just what I think of them.

I'd say I'm doing my part, Raeyh. That I don't buy from Chick-fil-A is only a part of my overall support of LGBT issues, and it isn't even the part that I focus on most strongly. I'd be willing to bet I'm not the only person here who is that active.

Isn't activism a wonderful feeling?

I wonder how much their profits are gonna go down because of this.

[Socialdemokraterne]

Isn't activism a wonderful feeling?

I suppose so. It comes with a lot more failure than success, but I keep trying anyway.

[Northern Dominus]

Family Research Council and the National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality.. Basically the kind of deceptive bigoted hate groups that Dan Cathy probably still donates too even if he hasn't been as forthcoming about it.

I'm guessing they are a bunch of people who need to get laid?

Don't know...and I really don't want to know nor care because unlike those two groups I believe that as long as it's legal and everyone consents what people do in their own bedrooms is their own damn business, or the business of everybody who pays for the webcam access, whatever turns their personal cranks.

[SaintB]

Isn't activism a wonderful feeling?

I suppose so. It comes with a lot more failure than success, but I keep trying anyway.

True enough but its good to know that you are doing something while most people just bitch.

[Ethel mermania]

I'm holding my breath waiting for an FRC or Narth poll

Who?

its like 53 - 47 against isn't it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_opi ... ted_States

if wiki is to be believed it will just be a matter of time then, ok.

[Ethel mermania]

I have two friends who work at other Chick-fil-A restaurants.

They too work or have worked with openly gay and lesbian employees.

Is it too late to point out that Truett Cathy's earlier restaurants were some of the first in Atlanta to be desegregated?

OK, so we have some actual cases. Where were these particular franchises? In locations where nondiscrimination statutes exist?

you know, it is possible to be for civil rights, and against gay rights.

[Transhuman Proteus]

OK, so we have some actual cases. Where were these particular franchises? In locations where nondiscrimination statutes exist?

you know, it is possible to be for civil rights, and against gay rights.

Possible sure, sensible though?