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Postby Wikkiwallana » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:50 am

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Cannot think of a name wrote:You got me. I wondered the same thing about Krispy Kreme, when they finally opened one up in Northern California everyone lost their mind and I thought, "Am I the only one who wasn't having a hard time finding a donut shop?" and their donuts were some sort of gross congealed sugar substance that made me feel like diabetes was about to set in after the second bite. When the California branches filed for bankruptcy I felt some order had been restored in the universe.


It's this southern cooking thing. We're all sold this idea that southern cooking is all delicious comfort food and that anything that they like in the South is going to be fantastically delicious but probably horrifyingly bad for you. Then, whenever a fast food chain from the South moves somewhere new, we all forget for a minute that fast food is fast food is fast food, and we expect that this new place is going to sell us tenderly crafted comfort foods that are just going to blow our taste buds' minds. Instead, we get the same old fast food we already had with Burger King or Wendy's or whatever. The novelty wears off and we go back to what we know.

I remember when Krispy Kreme opened some stores up here. It was in the paper and everything, this new donut joint that was going to revolutionize the area's donuting. Then Dunkin Donuts ground them into dust, and they made a quiet exit.

I'm from the South. I hate Krispy Kreme, well, their standard glazed anyway. They have no substance, and almost no flavor. When I want a donut, I want something that actually feels like a pastry, not sugary air.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:50 am

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Which is fine. Like I said earlier, businesses love demographics that they can tap without having to market to them, and that will be brand-loyal regardless of whether you target your product. In your case, they know they don't need to improve their product, because the actual product itself is only a fraction of why you are brand-loyal - which makes you a wonderful addition to their bottomline.

You like their message, you choose to buy their products. I dislike their message, and I won't buy their products.

That's all fair and fine. That's the power of the market. People will 'vote' with their wallets.


I just want to be clear with you. I actually like their product, regardless of their beliefs, they have excellent service, and we have similar views. That's all the reason I need to go there.

I like their friggin' chicken, and that's the only reason I need to go there. I don't care if they find Gay Pride rallies or support the National Socialist Movement - if I like their product, I'll go there, regardless.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:51 am

New Nassrau wrote:Well, people are entitled to voice their opinions. I do not encourage violence against gays. I have a neutral opinion on them. It seems as though that if anyone says anything about a minority, the response is vicious and biting. Not everyone will accept gays, and people need to understand that.

Ending a contract and giving the money to charity is vicious and biting? Calls for a boycott are vicious and biting?
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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:51 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Abatael wrote:
I just want to be clear with you. I actually like their product, regardless of their beliefs, they have excellent service, and we have similar views. That's all the reason I need to go there.

I like their friggin' chicken, and that's the only reason I need to go there. I don't care if they find Gay Pride rallies or support the National Socialist Movement - if I like their product, I'll go there, regardless.


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Postby No Water No Moon » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:53 am

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Every Chick Fil-A I've been to has had pickle-counting, tightwad managers rationing out condiments and giving you dirty looks, as well as disgustingly dirty seating and a pretty unwelcoming atmosphere. It's not that great of a place, at all.

Every one I've been in is extremely clean - cleaner than any other fast food restaurant - with nice service, where the manager will occasionally come out, ask if you need a drink and how you like your food.

I guess it depends on the location.


The McDonalds nearest me is like that. Of course, McDonalds have also experimented with things like wood-panel interiors, and rock fireplaces, around here.

On the other hand - a McDonalds just a few miles further away got some heat for serving food while their sewer was backed up, and the staff were wading in four inches of dirty water.

So... yeah. Location, location, location.
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Postby Abatael » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:54 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Abatael wrote:
I just want to be clear with you. I actually like their product, regardless of their beliefs, they have excellent service, and we have similar views. That's all the reason I need to go there.

I like their friggin' chicken, and that's the only reason I need to go there. I don't care if they find Gay Pride rallies or support the National Socialist Movement - if I like their product, I'll go there, regardless.


Yeah, that's why they're now my favorite. Good product, good service, and good views.
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Postby Page » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:55 am

My anthropology professor boycotted Chik-fil-A for the same reason. Their homophobia aside though, Chik-fil-A, I've always had this thing, they look too good inside for the food they serve. In terms of taste, they are no better or worse than any fastfood chain, but for how clean the interior is and how generally nice the employees are, the food tastes shitty by comparison.

There is this Taco Bell that bums come into all the time to beg for money until the employees chase them out, there is this grumpy woman at the drive through named Nancy who stares death into your soul, the booths are torn and frayed, the bathroom looks like, well, exactly what you'd imagine a Taco Bell bathroom where people get the TB shits to look like.

And you know what? For all that, the food tastes pretty awesome, just because you have such low expectations of it! Chik-fil-A suffers from the opposite syndrome - I have high expectations and their Chik'n doesn't meet it. Also, homophobia, fuck that with a phallic rainbow.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:55 am

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Prussia-Steinbach wrote:I like their friggin' chicken, and that's the only reason I need to go there. I don't care if they find Gay Pride rallies or support the National Socialist Movement - if I like their product, I'll go there, regardless.


It must be nice to be completely free of anything resembling a social conscience. Consume, consume, consume. Free thoughts are heresy! Consume more!

I have a conscience, a rather strong one as well. If they were funding radical Islamist terrorists, I wouldn't buy their stuff. It has a limit. I just see no reason to get so worked up about something so trivial and stupid.

Where did the "free thoughts are heresy" come from?

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Postby Greed and Death » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:55 am

No Water No Moon wrote:
greed and death wrote:I dont know how intresting watching Boston write a 5 million dollar check in the settlement deal and watch Chik fila-a deposit it into their hate fund, is to you, but it is not intresting at all to me.


I don't think it will happen.

I'm not convinced that Chick Fil A will want to risk the bad publicity anytime soon. If they do, I'm not convinced Boston will actually force it to a showdown. If they do, I think they've got a reasonable chance of pushing their 'negative' angle.

If they were concerned about bad publicity they would not have talked about gay marraige.

As for suing the city causing publicty it is so common that it seems more of the course.

Not to mention suing to protect right of free speech makes them look good, not bad.
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Postby No Water No Moon » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:56 am

Abatael wrote:
No Water No Moon wrote:
Which is fine. Like I said earlier, businesses love demographics that they can tap without having to market to them, and that will be brand-loyal regardless of whether you target your product. In your case, they know they don't need to improve their product, because the actual product itself is only a fraction of why you are brand-loyal - which makes you a wonderful addition to their bottomline.

You like their message, you choose to buy their products. I dislike their message, and I won't buy their products.

That's all fair and fine. That's the power of the market. People will 'vote' with their wallets.


I just want to be clear with you. I actually like their product, regardless of their beliefs, they have excellent service, and we have similar views. That's all the reason I need to go there.


"...I actually like their product, regardless of their beliefs, they have excellent service, and we have similar views..."

In other words, you like their product despite their views, because you like their views.

Which is fine - you missed my point though. I don't object to your anti-Boycott. Go give them all your money, that's awesome - it's the market in action.

I'm just pointing out, business loves a captive market. The fact that they can market their product to you without tailoring it to your market, or paying for advertising to target your demographic - that's just the kind of news they love.
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Postby Adafdfadfasdf » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:57 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
New England and The Maritimes wrote:
It must be nice to be completely free of anything resembling a social conscience. Consume, consume, consume. Free thoughts are heresy! Consume more!

I have a conscience, a rather strong one as well. If they were funding radical Islamist terrorists, I wouldn't buy their stuff. It has a limit. I just see no reason to get so worked up about something so trivial and stupid.

Where did the "free thoughts are heresy" come from?

Yes, I like consuming and consumerism. 'Tis the beauty of capitalism. Buy stuff with money you worked for.


So gay rights are trivial and stupid?
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Postby No Water No Moon » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:57 am

greed and death wrote:
No Water No Moon wrote:
I don't think it will happen.

I'm not convinced that Chick Fil A will want to risk the bad publicity anytime soon. If they do, I'm not convinced Boston will actually force it to a showdown. If they do, I think they've got a reasonable chance of pushing their 'negative' angle.

If they were concerned about bad publicity they would not have talked about gay marraige.


That makes no sense. I really don't think they had any inkling this was going to go viral.
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Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
New England and The Maritimes wrote:
It must be nice to be completely free of anything resembling a social conscience. Consume, consume, consume. Free thoughts are heresy! Consume more!

I have a conscience, a rather strong one as well. If they were funding radical Islamist terrorists, I wouldn't buy their stuff. It has a limit. I just see no reason to get so worked up about something so trivial and stupid.

Where did the "free thoughts are heresy" come from?

Yes, I like consuming and consumerism. 'Tis the beauty of capitalism. Buy stuff with money you worked for.


Yes. Equal rights are trivial and stupid. Right. :palm:

You don't think for yourself, or else you'd have to be malicious or extremely stupid to come up with the idea that doing whatever you want with no thought to the ramifications on a broader scale is a good idea which everyone should put into practice.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:58 am

Osthia wrote:I just might watch that god-awful Muppets Movie simply to support them. Nice job Muppets!

Watch Muppets Take Manhattan, old episodes of The Muppet Show, or their youtube channel instead. Still supportive and very entertaining.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:58 am

No Water No Moon wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Every one I've been in is extremely clean - cleaner than any other fast food restaurant - with nice service, where the manager will occasionally come out, ask if you need a drink and how you like your food.

I guess it depends on the location.


The McDonalds nearest me is like that. Of course, McDonalds have also experimented with things like wood-panel interiors, and rock fireplaces, around here.

On the other hand - a McDonalds just a few miles further away got some heat for serving food while their sewer was backed up, and the staff were wading in four inches of dirty water.

So... yeah. Location, location, location.

1. Sounds like a nice McDonald's. There was a pretty nice one that opened up about forty-five minutes away from where I used to live - I was excited, simply becuase I'm used to crappy MickeyDs.

2. That is disgusting.

3. Yep. I just don't think it's fair or rational to blame an entire franchise because a couple of their locations didn't have good service.
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Postby Raeyh » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:58 am

Page wrote: And you know what? For all that, the food tastes pretty awesome, just because you have such low expectations of it! Chik-fil-A suffers from the opposite syndrome - I have high expectations and their Chik'n doesn't meet it. Also, homophobia, fuck that with a phallic rainbow.


Chick-fil-a tastes about the same as what I would make if I had a chicken sandwich at home. Taco Bell, on the other hand, just tastes like mystery meat from a cafeteria.
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Postby Greed and Death » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:58 am

No Water No Moon wrote:
greed and death wrote:If they were concerned about bad publicity they would not have talked about gay marraige.


That makes no sense. I really don't think they had any inkling this was going to go viral.

Yes of course a company weighs in on the #2 or #3 hot button issue of our time and they had no idea this would generate controversy.
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Postby No Water No Moon » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:59 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
New England and The Maritimes wrote:
It must be nice to be completely free of anything resembling a social conscience. Consume, consume, consume. Free thoughts are heresy! Consume more!

I have a conscience, a rather strong one as well. If they were funding radical Islamist terrorists, I wouldn't buy their stuff. It has a limit. I just see no reason to get so worked up about something so trivial and stupid.

Where did the "free thoughts are heresy" come from?


The 'free thoughts are heresy' idea, I suspect - would be because people seem to be suggesting that boycotting is an unwarranted reaction. Like you shouldn't choose not to support businesses you disagree with.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:59 am

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Abatael wrote:I already loved Chick-fil-a, but this makes me love them even more. Chick-fil-a is now my favorite fast food restaurant.


It's the delicious depriving-other-people-of-equal-rights that makes the chicken extra crispy.

Wait, you got crispy chicken at a Chick-Fil-A? :eek: What sorcery is this?!
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Postby Abatael » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:00 am

No Water No Moon wrote:
Abatael wrote:
I just want to be clear with you. I actually like their product, regardless of their beliefs, they have excellent service, and we have similar views. That's all the reason I need to go there.


"...I actually like their product, regardless of their beliefs, they have excellent service, and we have similar views..."

In other words, you like their product despite their views, because you like their views.

Which is fine - you missed my point though. I don't object to your anti-Boycott. Go give them all your money, that's awesome - it's the market in action.

I'm just pointing out, business loves a captive market. The fact that they can market their product to you without tailoring it to your market, or paying for advertising to target your demographic - that's just the kind of news they love.


You misunderstood me. I meant that, if they were pro-gay rights, I would still like their product, because it tastes good. Their believes have no correlation with that fact that their product is good.
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Postby Adafdfadfasdf » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:00 am

Raeyh wrote:
Page wrote: And you know what? For all that, the food tastes pretty awesome, just because you have such low expectations of it! Chik-fil-A suffers from the opposite syndrome - I have high expectations and their Chik'n doesn't meet it. Also, homophobia, fuck that with a phallic rainbow.


Chick-fil-a tastes about the same as what I would make if I had a chicken sandwich at home. Taco Bell, on the other hand, just tastes like mystery meat from a cafeteria.


Actually made a chicken sandwich? Or just defrosted a chicken patty?
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:00 am

Adafdfadfasdf wrote:I'm surprised that that nobody has made a joke about "eating more [synonym for rooster]" yet.

Please, we have standards. And that joke is too far above them. :p
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I'm a pro-lifer who runs a nation of dragon-men...
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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:01 am

No Water No Moon wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:I have a conscience, a rather strong one as well. If they were funding radical Islamist terrorists, I wouldn't buy their stuff. It has a limit. I just see no reason to get so worked up about something so trivial and stupid.

Where did the "free thoughts are heresy" come from?


The 'free thoughts are heresy' idea, I suspect - would be because people seem to be suggesting that boycotting is an unwarranted reaction. Like you shouldn't choose not to support businesses you disagree with.


This, as well. "How dare you be mad at a business for supporting massive, systemic discrimination on all levels of our society!"
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:01 am

Deckersia wrote:Good thing it's a family owned story and since he's in charge of it he can do whatever the fuck he pleases. No one asks you to eat there, you don't want to eat there because they view something differently than everyone then go ahead. You won't ruin their buisness. It's not like the stores FORCE YOU TO LEAVE or ASK if you're homosexual or not, he just stated how he feels and the fact that this country is based on ideals of freedom, he has as much a right to state his religion as you do to pointlessly boycott chick-fil-a.

So, your answer to people saying they will no longer eat there is to tell them that if it makes them so unhappy they don't have to eat there?

Great job.
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:01 am

Wikkiwallana wrote:
No Water No Moon wrote:
It's the delicious depriving-other-people-of-equal-rights that makes the chicken extra crispy.

Wait, you got crispy chicken at a Chick-Fil-A? :eek: What sorcery is this?!


You know how homosexuality makes wrists limp? Apparently they do the same thing to chicken.
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