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Postby Abatael » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:05 am

I already loved Chick-fil-a, but this makes me love them even more. Chick-fil-a is now my favorite fast food restaurant.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:05 am

New Nassrau wrote:Well, people are entitled to voice their opinions.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:06 am

Vetalia wrote:The guy's got a right to his opinion just like anyone else...if you disagree, don't support Chick-fil-a.

Which, um, is exactly what's happening.
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Postby No Water No Moon » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:06 am

Adafdfadfasdf wrote:
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A boycott is not an over-reaction. If someone has started burning their restaurants down or something? THAT would be an over-reaction.


The Mayor of Boston's reaction was an overreaction as well:

“Chick-fil-A doesn’t belong in Boston. You can’t have a business in the city of Boston that discriminates against a population. We’re an open city, we’re a city that’s at the forefront of inclusion...If they need licenses in the city, it will be very difficult — unless they open up their policies."


I'm not seeing an over-reaction. If the city has a policy of equality, they can choose to oppose people who discriminate - just as 'dry' towns can choose to oppose people who want to sell alcohol.
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Postby Lialoth » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:09 am

You know, I think I have to add another business to my "Do not give my patronage" list. Wait. What in the holy <Expletive Deleted> is Chick-fil-a? I don't think we got those up here. Can't protest them anyways.

I'm not surprised to see a wealthy, rightwing christian oppose equality/personal liberty. I'm surprised anyone did anything about it, too.
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Postby Greed and Death » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:10 am

No Water No Moon wrote:
Adafdfadfasdf wrote:
The Mayor of Boston's reaction was an overreaction as well:

“Chick-fil-A doesn’t belong in Boston. You can’t have a business in the city of Boston that discriminates against a population. We’re an open city, we’re a city that’s at the forefront of inclusion...If they need licenses in the city, it will be very difficult — unless they open up their policies."


I'm not seeing an over-reaction. If the city has a policy of equality, they can choose to oppose people who discriminate - just as 'dry' towns can choose to oppose people who want to sell alcohol.

So in a dry town, I can not open a book store because I personally support legalizing the sell of alcohol. The mayor of Boston better hope his officials do not discriminate against Chik-fil-a for exercising their first amendment rights.

You can not run people out of town for having opposing viewpoints, nor can you make it impoissble to have a job for those who disagree wiht you.
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Postby Abatael » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:10 am

No Water No Moon wrote:
Adafdfadfasdf wrote:
The Mayor of Boston's reaction was an overreaction as well:

“Chick-fil-A doesn’t belong in Boston. You can’t have a business in the city of Boston that discriminates against a population. We’re an open city, we’re a city that’s at the forefront of inclusion...If they need licenses in the city, it will be very difficult — unless they open up their policies."


I'm not seeing an over-reaction. If the city has a policy of equality, they can choose to oppose people who discriminate - just as 'dry' towns can choose to oppose people who want to sell alcohol.


Wait, I just want a full understanding of this. Are they forbidding Chick-fil-a from conducting business there, or is the guy just making a statement saying he disagrees?
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:10 am

Arkinesia wrote:A boycott over a phrase taken out of context is an overreaction.

I mean, what's next? We boycott McDonald's because someone sneezed in the store and it offends your sense of hygiene?

By 'phrase' you mean 'donates money' and if 'out of context' you mean 'to an anti-gay marriage organization'...
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Postby No Water No Moon » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:10 am

Arkinesia wrote:
No Water No Moon wrote:A boycott is not an over-reaction. If someone has started burning their restaurants down or something? THAT would be an over-reaction.

A boycott over a phrase taken out of context is an overreaction.

I mean, what's next? We boycott McDonald's because someone sneezed in the store and it offends your sense of hygiene?


What was the context that would have made it okay?

You can boycott for any reason. People threatened to boycott Kraft foods after the rainbow-Oreo image. And that's their right. If people boycott a restaurant chain over homophobic choices... well, that's their right, too.

I'm not seeing the problem.
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Postby Arkinesia » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:12 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Arkinesia wrote:A boycott over a phrase taken out of context is an overreaction.

I mean, what's next? We boycott McDonald's because someone sneezed in the store and it offends your sense of hygiene?

By 'phrase' you mean 'donates money' and if 'out of context' you mean 'to an anti-gay marriage organization'...

My understanding was that the current kerfluffle was over a quote from a Baptist Press interview.
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Postby Abatael » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:13 am

greed and death wrote:
No Water No Moon wrote:
I'm not seeing an over-reaction. If the city has a policy of equality, they can choose to oppose people who discriminate - just as 'dry' towns can choose to oppose people who want to sell alcohol.

So in a dry town, I can not open a book store because I personally support legalizing the sell of alcohol. The mayor of Boston better hope his officials do not discriminate against Chik-fil-a for exercising their first amendment rights.

You can not run people out of town for having opposing viewpoints, nor can you make it impoissble to have a job for those who disagree wiht you.


I agree with you.
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Postby Adafdfadfasdf » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:13 am

Abatael wrote:
No Water No Moon wrote:
I'm not seeing an over-reaction. If the city has a policy of equality, they can choose to oppose people who discriminate - just as 'dry' towns can choose to oppose people who want to sell alcohol.


Wait, I just want a full understanding of this. Are they forbidding Chick-fil-a from conducting business there, or is the guy just making a statement saying he disagrees?


It wasn't an official declaration that they would actually forbid Chick-fil-a from doing business, but a somewhat veiled threat. It really pisses me of though. Because in this instance, I have to defend the fucking bigots.
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Postby The Realm of God » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:14 am

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TaQud wrote:i didn't say I hate it (i'm neutral so I don't really care) its just where I live thats opposed to it


Is it the younger generation or the older generation? I live in Texas and it's not a problem usually (although I've been to the poorer parts of Texas and it's horrible) with the younger generation. And when it is, it's not because they're Christian, it's because they're closed-minded assholes in general.


The brand of reactionary fundimentalist christianity which causes this, became popular after the Second World War, led by the Charismatic and Pentacostal movements. So both old and young generations.

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Postby Lialoth » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:14 am

Abatael wrote:Wait, I just want a full understanding of this. Are they forbidding Chick-fil-a from conducting business there, or is the guy just making a statement saying he disagrees?

I think he was saying that if Chick-fil-a actively discriminates in things, such as their hiring policy, then they should probably be leaving town.
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Postby No Water No Moon » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:15 am

greed and death wrote:
No Water No Moon wrote:
I'm not seeing an over-reaction. If the city has a policy of equality, they can choose to oppose people who discriminate - just as 'dry' towns can choose to oppose people who want to sell alcohol.

So in a dry town, I can not open a book store because I personally support legalizing the sell of alcohol. The mayor of Boston better hope his officials do not discriminate against Chik-fil-a for exercising their first amendment rights.

You can not run people out of town for having opposing viewpoints, nor can you make it impoissble to have a job for those who disagree wiht you.


It'll be an interesting one to watch, for sure - they did block a Wal-Mart expansion plan last year, by claiming it would have a negative impact.
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Postby Abatael » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:15 am

Adafdfadfasdf wrote:
Abatael wrote:
Wait, I just want a full understanding of this. Are they forbidding Chick-fil-a from conducting business there, or is the guy just making a statement saying he disagrees?


It wasn't an official declaration that they would actually forbid Chick-fil-a from doing business, but a somewhat veiled threat. It really pisses me of though. Because in this instance, I have to defend the fucking bigots.


Is there a link to the statement, or something I can see?
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Postby No Water No Moon » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:15 am

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Cannot think of a name wrote:By 'phrase' you mean 'donates money' and if 'out of context' you mean 'to an anti-gay marriage organization'...

My understanding was that the current kerfluffle was over a quote from a Baptist Press interview.


That doesn't make it 'out of context' - that IS the context.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:16 am

Abatael wrote:I already loved Chick-fil-a, but this makes me love them even more. Chick-fil-a is now my favorite fast food restaurant.


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Postby Osthia » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:16 am

I just might watch that god-awful Muppets Movie simply to support them. Nice job Muppets!

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Postby Gauthier » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:17 am

No Water No Moon wrote:
greed and death wrote:So in a dry town, I can not open a book store because I personally support legalizing the sell of alcohol. The mayor of Boston better hope his officials do not discriminate against Chik-fil-a for exercising their first amendment rights.

You can not run people out of town for having opposing viewpoints, nor can you make it impoissble to have a job for those who disagree wiht you.


It'll be an interesting one to watch, for sure - they did block a Wal-Mart expansion plan last year, by claiming it would have a negative impact.


Wal Marts tend to be referred to as Poverty Bombs for a reason. Their very presence and business practices are designed to obliterate local small businesses.
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Postby Adafdfadfasdf » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:17 am

Abatael wrote:
Adafdfadfasdf wrote:
It wasn't an official declaration that they would actually forbid Chick-fil-a from doing business, but a somewhat veiled threat. It really pisses me of though. Because in this instance, I have to defend the fucking bigots.


Is there a link to the statement, or something I can see?


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Edit: found the link: http://www.bostonherald.com/news/region ... ition=also
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Postby No Water No Moon » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:17 am

Abatael wrote:I already loved Chick-fil-a, but this makes me love them even more. Chick-fil-a is now my favorite fast food restaurant.


It's the delicious depriving-other-people-of-equal-rights that makes the chicken extra crispy.
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Postby No Water No Moon » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:18 am

Gauthier wrote:
No Water No Moon wrote:
It'll be an interesting one to watch, for sure - they did block a Wal-Mart expansion plan last year, by claiming it would have a negative impact.


Wal Marts tend to be referred to as Poverty Bombs for a reason. Their very presence and business practices are designed to obliterate local small businesses.


Agreed.
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:18 am

No Water No Moon wrote:
Abatael wrote:I already loved Chick-fil-a, but this makes me love them even more. Chick-fil-a is now my favorite fast food restaurant.


It's the delicious depriving-other-people-of-equal-rights that makes the chicken extra crispy.


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