Muppets dump Chick-fil-a

[Novaya Tselinoyarsk]

That Henson gave the payment to GLAAD is pretty fucking excellent.

Agreed. At least they didn't just drop it and then keep the money for whatever the hell they wanted.

[Arkinesia]

I love how a businessman now can say “I personally believe in traditional marriage” and say nothing else and yet he gets labeled a homophobe and the business he manages is equivocated to Westboro Baptist Church.

The reaction to this Baptist Press interview has been nothing short of sickening to me, as someone who campaigns for LGBT rights. With this overreaction we are just adding fuel to our opponents' fires. It doesn't help the people we are trying to help.

[Arkinesia]

They just opened a Chick-fil-a here for the first time, and man-o-man, it was fucking nasty. No, nasty would be a complement because that meant that it had some sort of character outside of some chickenlike slab betwixt something resembling bread.

This will be the easiest boycott since Nike (not liking sneakers in general as I do).

I know, I can't figure it out for the life of me. I mean Popeye's AND KFC both have more flavor in their chicken than Capricious Zealouts-A, so how in the blue hell have they survived?

They have survived because unlike KFC and Popeye's they actually have some customer service. They treat you like a person not a number.

It's a very well-documented phenomenon in business research.

[Sdaeriji]

You got me. I wondered the same thing about Krispy Kreme, when they finally opened one up in Northern California everyone lost their mind and I thought, "Am I the only one who wasn't having a hard time finding a donut shop?" and their donuts were some sort of gross congealed sugar substance that made me feel like diabetes was about to set in after the second bite. When the California branches filed for bankruptcy I felt some order had been restored in the universe.

It's this southern cooking thing. We're all sold this idea that southern cooking is all delicious comfort food and that anything that they like in the South is going to be fantastically delicious but probably horrifyingly bad for you. Then, whenever a fast food chain from the South moves somewhere new, we all forget for a minute that fast food is fast food is fast food, and we expect that this new place is going to sell us tenderly crafted comfort foods that are just going to blow our taste buds' minds. Instead, we get the same old fast food we already had with Burger King or Wendy's or whatever. The novelty wears off and we go back to what we know.

I remember when Krispy Kreme opened some stores up here. It was in the paper and everything, this new donut joint that was going to revolutionize the area's donuting. Then Dunkin Donuts ground them into dust, and they made a quiet exit.

[Cannot think of a name]

I remember when Krispy Kreme opened some stores up here. It was in the paper and everything, this new donut joint that was going to revolutionize the area's donuting. Then Dunkin Donuts ground them into dust, and they made a quiet exit.

There was a small glimmer of pride that in my area it was small independent donut shops that won out in the end.

[New Nassrau]

So because someone does not agree with the minority, we all shun the majority?

[Farnhamia]

So because someone does not agree with the minority, we all shun the majority?

Sorry, what? It's perfectly within our rights to "shun" people with whom we disagree. Why should the majority be allowed to tyrannize the minority?

[Cannot think of a name]

So because someone does not agree with the minority, we all shun the majority?

What majority are we shunning?

[Vetalia]

The guy's got a right to his opinion just like anyone else...if you disagree, don't support Chick-fil-a.

[Mavorpen]

So because someone does not agree with the minority, we all shun the majority?

Sorry, what? It's perfectly within our rights to "shun" people with whom we disagree. Why should the majority be allowed to tyrannize the minority?

Because herp derp democracy, merf derf, guns, herp derp FREEDOM, merf derf 'MERICA!

[New Nassrau]

Well, people are entitled to voice their opinions. I do not encourage violence against gays. I have a neutral opinion on them. It seems as though that if anyone says anything about a minority, the response is vicious and biting. Not everyone will accept gays, and people need to understand that.

[Farnhamia]

Sorry, what? It's perfectly within our rights to "shun" people with whom we disagree. Why should the majority be allowed to tyrannize the minority?

Because herp derp democracy, merf derf, guns, herp derp FREEDOM, merf derf 'MERICA!

I'm of a mind to start protesting the "herp derp" crap whenever it appears. Would you care to join me?

[No Water No Moon]

So because someone does not agree with the minority, we all shun the majority?

You can shun as you please. But boycotting businesses with whom you have some disagreement is not some new phenomenon just suddenly being discovered.

[Mavorpen]

Because herp derp democracy, merf derf, guns, herp derp FREEDOM, merf derf 'MERICA!

I'm of a mind to start protesting the "herp derp" crap whenever it appears. Would you care to join me?

Sure, right after Looney Tunes.

[Farnhamia]

Well, people are entitled to voice their opinions. I do not encourage violence against gays. I have a neutral opinion on them. It seems as though that if anyone says anything about a minority, the response is vicious and biting. Not everyone will accept gays, and people need to understand that.

And people who do not need to understand that gays are people just like them, and saying vicious and biting things about them will draw a response. I'm sorry, but the days of us slinking back into the closet whenever someone barks at us are over. Better to think about your negative attitude (not you).

[Adafdfadfasdf]

So because someone does not agree with the minority, we all shun the majority?

What?

Chick-fil-a is perfectly within their rights to give (or not give) their money to groups they support. The Muppets (through Disney) are perfectly within their rights to give (or not give) money to groups that they support.

If Chick-fil-a, through their actions publicly embarrasses the Muppets, the Muppets have the right to sever ties to Chick-fil-a. If Chick-fil-a feels that the suffer a loss because of that, they have the right to attempt to prove in a court of law such a loss.

If, as a private citizen, I don't like what Chick-fil-a donates to (anti-gay hate groups), I am perfectly within my rights not to spend money there. If you don't like what Pepsi donates to (gay rights groups), you are perfectly within your rights to not spend money on Pepsi products.

If you want to call me not spending my vile gay money at a restaurant that is against what I believe in shunning, I guess that's your right. I just call it being a conscientious consumer.

[No Water No Moon]

I love how a businessman now can say “I personally believe in traditional marriage” and say nothing else and yet he gets labeled a homophobe and the business he manages is equivocated to Westboro Baptist Church.

The reaction to this Baptist Press interview has been nothing short of sickening to me, as someone who campaigns for LGBT rights. With this overreaction we are just adding fuel to our opponents' fires. It doesn't help the people we are trying to help.

A boycott is not an over-reaction. If someone has started burning their restaurants down or something? THAT would be an over-reaction.

[The Black Forrest]

So because someone does not agree with the minority, we all shun the majority?

Sure. Why not?

[New Nassrau]

Well, people are entitled to voice their opinions. I do not encourage violence against gays. I have a neutral opinion on them. It seems as though that if anyone says anything about a minority, the response is vicious and biting. Not everyone will accept gays, and people need to understand that.

And people who do not need to understand that gays are people just like them, and saying vicious and biting things about them will draw a response. I'm sorry, but the days of us slinking back into the closet whenever someone barks at us are over. Better to think about your negative attitude (not you).

Well, once the older generation dies out, hopefully younger people will understand that gays are really no different. Just like blacks were no different, or Native Americans and such back in our history.

[The Black Forrest]

And people who do not need to understand that gays are people just like them, and saying vicious and biting things about them will draw a response. I'm sorry, but the days of us slinking back into the closet whenever someone barks at us are over. Better to think about your negative attitude (not you).

Well, once the older generation dies out, hopefully younger people will understand that gays are really no different. Just like blacks were no different, or Native Americans and such back in our history.

Age is not the defining factor on this. There are many young people who think the same.

[Adafdfadfasdf]

I love how a businessman now can say “I personally believe in traditional marriage” and say nothing else and yet he gets labeled a homophobe and the business he manages is equivocated to Westboro Baptist Church.

The reaction to this Baptist Press interview has been nothing short of sickening to me, as someone who campaigns for LGBT rights. With this overreaction we are just adding fuel to our opponents' fires. It doesn't help the people we are trying to help.

A boycott is not an over-reaction. If someone has started burning their restaurants down or something? THAT would be an over-reaction.

The Mayor of Boston's reaction was an overreaction as well:

“Chick-fil-A doesn’t belong in Boston. You can’t have a business in the city of Boston that discriminates against a population. We’re an open city, we’re a city that’s at the forefront of inclusion...If they need licenses in the city, it will be very difficult — unless they open up their policies."

[Northern Dominus]

I'll do you one better. I'll make you a startup partner in this restaurant chain I have in mind. All of the service staff will be scantily clad (male and female, equal opportunity titillation after all.), play nothing but uncensored gangster rap and heavy metal during business hours even on the patio, offer special incentives and specials on sundays, and make it a policy of hiring the best students from culinary school and encourage them to make the tastiest food they can.

Locations? Well how about across from or next to every single Chik-fil-A in the nation, including the malls?

Haven't come up for a name for this place yet....maybe this is where NSG really shows its worth.

Fuck-da-Police?

Nah...surely we can do better than that NSG-ites.

[Arkinesia]

I love how a businessman now can say “I personally believe in traditional marriage” and say nothing else and yet he gets labeled a homophobe and the business he manages is equivocated to Westboro Baptist Church.

The reaction to this Baptist Press interview has been nothing short of sickening to me, as someone who campaigns for LGBT rights. With this overreaction we are just adding fuel to our opponents' fires. It doesn't help the people we are trying to help.

A boycott is not an over-reaction. If someone has started burning their restaurants down or something? THAT would be an over-reaction.

A boycott over a phrase taken out of context is an overreaction.

I mean, what's next? We boycott McDonald's because someone sneezed in the store and it offends your sense of hygiene?

[New Nassrau]

Well, once the older generation dies out, hopefully younger people will understand that gays are really no different. Just like blacks were no different, or Native Americans and such back in our history.

Age is not the defining factor on this. There are many young people who think the same.

Well look, there's always going to be racism, and there's always going to be people who are against the LGBT community. In the future... it will get better.

[Arkinesia]

A boycott is not an over-reaction. If someone has started burning their restaurants down or something? THAT would be an over-reaction.

The Mayor of Boston's reaction was an overreaction as well:

“Chick-fil-A doesn’t belong in Boston. You can’t have a business in the city of Boston that discriminates against a population. We’re an open city, we’re a city that’s at the forefront of inclusion...If they need licenses in the city, it will be very difficult — unless they open up their policies."

Yeah that is definitely an overreaction, as I believe I have already stated in this thread.

My nighttime manager while working at Chick-fil-A was openly gay. I have two friends who work at Chick-fil-A locations in Georgia and Texas and they work with people who are openly gay or lesbian. Neither of those states have protections for applicants of different sexual orientations.

They have perfectly open policies when it comes to employment and customer service. So yes, the mayor's response is very much an overreaction.

But fuck evidence and facts, right? I need to go splutter something out to make sure people know what I'm about.