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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:00 pm

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Farnhamia wrote:So what would you suggest?


Either make a real difference in the world for those you care about or stop pretending that you are a positive force in life by not buying some fast food because some guy stuck is foot in his mouth.

You think his comments were just him putting his foot in his mouth? And I do make as positive an impact on the world as I can, thank you very much. I consider boycotting Chik-Fil-A a small gesture I can make that adds to that.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:01 pm

Raeyh wrote:Yet you wouldn't do the opposite, would you? If the embodiment of goodness and humanity opened up a Burger Place that served the worst burgers known to man, you wouldn't buy them just to support the guy, would you?

Actually, to a certain degree, I would. I like racing, racing as an endevuor cannot exist without sponsorship, so presented with a largely benign choice of products I will tend to favor the product that sponsors racing.

Furthermore, many companies do in fact make a big deal out of their charitable donations and in fact encourage patronage as part of their charitable efforts (such as Yoplait and their Pink Lid campaign.

So no, this is neither as inconsistent as you would like to believe or even unheard of.
Raeyh wrote:Get realistic, most corporations are evil. Boycotting one for ethical reasons while turning a blind eye to all the crap the others pull is just being shortsighted.

Point out the evil and make the case and we'll discuss it.
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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:01 pm

Raeyh wrote:Either make a real difference in the world for those you care about or stop pretending that you are a positive force in life by not buying some fast food because a guy stuck his foot in his mouth.

What are you doing to make a difference in the world?
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He makes veggie burgers. One of the reasons they taste so bad.


Well this makes no sense.
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Postby Bottle » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:03 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Raeyh wrote:
Either make a real difference in the world for those you care about or stop pretending that you are a positive force in life by not buying some fast food because some guy stuck is foot in his mouth.

You think his comments were just him putting his foot in his mouth? And I do make as positive an impact on the world as I can, thank you very much. I consider boycotting Chik-Fil-A a small gesture I can make that adds to that.

Yeah, can't speak for anybody else, but I have plenty of hours in my day to advance the cause of improved reproduceability in STEM research, participate in a local volunteer network, and help rid the world of dragons (they're real they are just made of pixels!), while still having ample time to whip up a post or two on the internet about how Chik-Fil-A is run by crummy homophobes.

A less kind and charitable soul than I might suggest that there is a measure of projection at work from those who insist that it's not possible to both post on this topic and also do anything worthwhile with one's life.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:05 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Raeyh wrote:
Either make a real difference in the world for those you care about or stop pretending that you are a positive force in life by not buying some fast food because some guy stuck is foot in his mouth.

You think his comments were just him putting his foot in his mouth? And I do make as positive an impact on the world as I can, thank you very much. I consider boycotting Chik-Fil-A a small gesture I can make that adds to that.

Not to mention the amount of time freed up not going to Chik-fil-a. I mean, on the grand effort scale, 'not going to a nasty ass fast food restaurant' barely even makes a blip. I have to travel half a block less to go to my next available option...

EDIT: Or what Bottle said, since it involved science and shit...stupid science ninjas, with their deadly throwing beakers and shit...
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:05 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:You think his comments were just him putting his foot in his mouth? And I do make as positive an impact on the world as I can, thank you very much. I consider boycotting Chik-Fil-A a small gesture I can make that adds to that.

Not to mention the amount of time freed up not going to Chik-fil-a. I mean, on the grand effort scale, 'not going to a nasty ass fast food restaurant' barely even makes a blip. I have to travel half a block less to go to my next available option...

Yes, there is that, though you'll have to replace the exercise missed with something else.
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Postby Raeyh » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:06 pm

Bottle wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:You think his comments were just him putting his foot in his mouth? And I do make as positive an impact on the world as I can, thank you very much. I consider boycotting Chik-Fil-A a small gesture I can make that adds to that.

Yeah, can't speak for anybody else, but I have plenty of hours in my day to advance the cause of improved reproduceability in STEM research, participate in a local volunteer network, and help rid the world of dragons (they're real they are just made of pixels!), while still having ample time to whip up a post or two on the internet about how Chik-Fil-A is run by crummy homophobes.

A less kind and charitable soul than I might suggest that there is a measure of projection at work from those who insist that it's not possible to both post on this topic and also do anything worthwhile with one's life.


But you did nothing positive for homosexuals personally.

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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:07 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Not to mention the amount of time freed up not going to Chik-fil-a. I mean, on the grand effort scale, 'not going to a nasty ass fast food restaurant' barely even makes a blip. I have to travel half a block less to go to my next available option...

Yes, there is that, though you'll have to replace the exercise missed with something else.


Copious amounts of sex.
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Postby Sdaeriji » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:08 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:You think his comments were just him putting his foot in his mouth? And I do make as positive an impact on the world as I can, thank you very much. I consider boycotting Chik-Fil-A a small gesture I can make that adds to that.

Not to mention the amount of time freed up not going to Chik-fil-a. I mean, on the grand effort scale, 'not going to a nasty ass fast food restaurant' barely even makes a blip. I have to travel half a block less to go to my next available option...


Right? People are acting like [avoiding Chik-fil-a] equals [going hungry] instead of [going down three doors to the Chipotle].
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:08 pm

Raeyh wrote:
Bottle wrote:Yeah, can't speak for anybody else, but I have plenty of hours in my day to advance the cause of improved reproduceability in STEM research, participate in a local volunteer network, and help rid the world of dragons (they're real they are just made of pixels!), while still having ample time to whip up a post or two on the internet about how Chik-Fil-A is run by crummy homophobes.

A less kind and charitable soul than I might suggest that there is a measure of projection at work from those who insist that it's not possible to both post on this topic and also do anything worthwhile with one's life.


But you did nothing positive for homosexuals personally.

You know how in a Western when they're introducing characters at a bar scene and someone says something and then all of a sudden everyone backs away from that person and looks at the menacing looking gunfighter on the other side of the room...?
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:09 pm

Sdaeriji wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Not to mention the amount of time freed up not going to Chik-fil-a. I mean, on the grand effort scale, 'not going to a nasty ass fast food restaurant' barely even makes a blip. I have to travel half a block less to go to my next available option...


Right? People are acting like [avoiding Chik-fil-a] equals [going hungry] instead of [going down three doors to the Chipotle].


Meh. I haven't eaten at Arby's since they did that block conservatives for being conservatives thing a while ago on Twitter.

Also, the sodium content in their food is Godawful high.

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Postby Raeyh » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:10 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Raeyh wrote:
But you did nothing positive for homosexuals personally.

You know how in a Western when they're introducing characters at a bar scene and someone says something and then all of a sudden everyone backs away from that person and looks at the menacing looking gunfighter on the other side of the room...?


I fail to see how spaghetti western cliches have any relevance here.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:11 pm

Raeyh wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:You know how in a Western when they're introducing characters at a bar scene and someone says something and then all of a sudden everyone backs away from that person and looks at the menacing looking gunfighter on the other side of the room...?


I fail to see how spaghetti western cliches have any relevance here.

Wait for it...
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:12 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Raeyh wrote:
I fail to see how spaghetti western cliches have any relevance here.

Wait for it...

*backs away and looks for the exit*
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Postby Bottle » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:16 pm

Raeyh wrote:
Bottle wrote:Yeah, can't speak for anybody else, but I have plenty of hours in my day to advance the cause of improved reproduceability in STEM research, participate in a local volunteer network, and help rid the world of dragons (they're real they are just made of pixels!), while still having ample time to whip up a post or two on the internet about how Chik-Fil-A is run by crummy homophobes.

A less kind and charitable soul than I might suggest that there is a measure of projection at work from those who insist that it's not possible to both post on this topic and also do anything worthwhile with one's life.


But you did nothing positive for homosexuals personally.

Show of hands: how many queers in this thread are enjoying watching me make with the sillies at Raeyh?
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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:23 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Raeyh wrote:
Yet you wouldn't do the opposite, would you? If the embodiment of goodness and humanity opened up a Burger Place that served the worst burgers known to man, you wouldn't buy them just to support the guy, would you?

Get realistic, most corporations are evil. Boycotting one for ethical reasons while turning a blind eye to all the crap the others pull is just being shortsighted.

So what would you suggest?


Well if it makes you feel better.

But it seems know Chick-fil-a donated to the causes it donated to for awhile now at least if you believe the Chicago Alderman.
Further I would say most of the chamber of commerce members likely donate far more to things that hurt LGBT rights then Chick-fil-a. Just seems the effort could be put to better use elsewhere.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:24 pm

Bottle wrote:
Raeyh wrote:
But you did nothing positive for homosexuals personally.

Show of hands: how many queers in this thread are enjoying watching me make with the sillies at Raeyh?

*makes more popcorn & for Bottle, pasties*
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:24 pm

greed and death wrote:Just seems the effort could be put to better use elsewhere.

What effort?
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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:25 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
greed and death wrote:Just seems the effort could be put to better use elsewhere.

What effort?

The effort spent driving .5 a blocks farther down the KFC.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:25 pm

greed and death wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:So what would you suggest?


Well if it makes you feel better.

But it seems know Chick-fil-a donated to the causes it donated to for awhile now at least if you believe the Chicago Alderman.
Further I would say most of the chamber of commerce members likely donate far more to things that hurt LGBT rights then Chick-fil-a. Just seems the effort could be put to better use elsewhere.

It makes me feel better. Any effort that advances the Gay Agenda is worth ... wait, did I say that out loud?
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:27 pm

greed and death wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:What effort?

The effort spent driving .5 a blocks farther down the KFC.

I'm a pretty lazy fucker and even I have a hard time considering not going somewhere 'effort'.
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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:28 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
greed and death wrote:
Well if it makes you feel better.

But it seems know Chick-fil-a donated to the causes it donated to for awhile now at least if you believe the Chicago Alderman.
Further I would say most of the chamber of commerce members likely donate far more to things that hurt LGBT rights then Chick-fil-a. Just seems the effort could be put to better use elsewhere.

It makes me feel better. Any effort that advances the Gay Agenda is worth ... wait, did I say that out loud?


If seeking equal rights is an Agenda then I proudly support it.
I just feel the time effort and money spent getting the word out and boycotting/protesting Chick-fil-a could be spent to better uses such as getting out the vote. Strategically I think spending time and energy boycotting/protesting Chick-fil-a would improve Romney's chances to win.
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Postby Bottle » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:28 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
greed and death wrote:The effort spent driving .5 a blocks farther down the KFC.

I'm a pretty lazy fucker and even I have a hard time considering not going somewhere 'effort'.

Well to hear the homophobes tell it, not going to gay weddings is just about the hardest thing in the universe to pull off, so maybe not-doing things is the new doing things.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:29 pm

greed and death wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:It makes me feel better. Any effort that advances the Gay Agenda is worth ... wait, did I say that out loud?


If seeking equal rights is an Agenda then I proudly support it.
I just feel the time effort and money spent getting the word out and boycotting/protesting Chick-fil-a could be spent to better uses such as getting out the vote. Strategically I think spending time and energy boycotting/protesting Chick-fil-a would improve Romney's chances to win.

We can do both. Really. There are more than a couple of people down at Headquarters. ;)
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Postby Raeyh » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:30 pm

Bottle wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:I'm a pretty lazy fucker and even I have a hard time considering not going somewhere 'effort'.

Well to hear the homophobes tell it, not going to gay weddings is just about the hardest thing in the universe to pull off, so maybe not-doing things is the new doing things.


Like I said, it's slacktivism, or activism for slackers. For people who want to feel better about themselves while putting forth no additional effort.

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