North Korea to reform economy, abandon "military first"

[Esternial]

So this is how communism dies.

With thunderous applause.

North Korea's Communist?
I'm gonna have to disagree with you there.
There has never been a communist state, ever. The Soviet Union, Cuba, Laos, Vietnam, DPRK, China, they are/were all just socialist states. And all of them have different forms of socialism. So yes, this may be the death of the Juche ideology but Marxism-Leninism lives on in Cuba.

Communism has a better ring to it

[Lerro]

In theory. It would be like saying that every Christian is charitable. There is plenty of evidence to suggest otherwise.

Communism requires an anarchistic system.

Does Christianity require charitableness?

Yes, actually. Be charitable was a common theme in many parables.

[Arumdaum]

Communism requires an anarchistic system.

Does Christianity require charitableness?

Yes, actually. Be charitable was a common theme in many parables.

I know. But does being charitable make you Christian?

If you're not charitable, are you not Christian?

Christianity advocates charitableness, but communism requires anarchy. It doesn't just advocate it, it needs it.

[North Calaveras]

Yes, actually. Be charitable was a common theme in many parables.

I know. But does being charitable make you Christian?

If you're not charitable, are you not Christian?

Christianity advocates charitableness, but communism requires anarchy. It doesn't just advocate it, it needs it.

Communism needs the people who don't agree with them to be wiped out, otherwise the idea of communism dosn't work.(among other reasons which are obvious)

[Novaya Tselinoyarsk]

My reaction to this is we'll see how far this actually goes.

[Arumdaum]

I know. But does being charitable make you Christian?

If you're not charitable, are you not Christian?

Christianity advocates charitableness, but communism requires anarchy. It doesn't just advocate it, it needs it.

Communism needs the people who don't agree with them to be wiped out, otherwise the idea of communism dosn't work.(among other reasons which are obvious)

Since when did you need to kill people to be stateless, classless, and moneyless?

[North Calaveras]

Communism needs the people who don't agree with them to be wiped out, otherwise the idea of communism dosn't work.(among other reasons which are obvious)

Since when did you need to kill people to be stateless, classless, and moneyless?

Because Communism dosn't work with humans that's why

[Lerro]

Yes, actually. Be charitable was a common theme in many parables.

I know. But does being charitable make you Christian?

If you're not charitable, are you not Christian?

Christianity advocates charitableness, but communism requires anarchy. It doesn't just advocate it, it needs it.

Since no human being would behave in the ways you said communism would bring about (no private property, no money, and so on) without being forced to, that means that communism is a contradiction. Just like any anarcho-fillintheblankhere.

[Ganos Lao]

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You really need to find a better gimmick. Leave this pro-DPRK crap to Dok and find something else to spam NSG threads with.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

In theory. It would be like saying that every Christian is charitable. There is plenty of evidence to suggest otherwise.

Communism requires an anarchistic system.

Does Christianity require charitableness?

Yes.

Also, I agree with you about Communism requiring anarchy.

[Novaya Tselinoyarsk]

Since when did you need to kill people to be stateless, classless, and moneyless?

Because Communism dosn't work with humans that's why

Neither does Capitalism.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Because Communism dosn't work with humans that's why

Neither does Capitalism.

It's done pretty damn well in Western country.

[North Calaveras]

Because Communism dosn't work with humans that's why

Neither does Capitalism.

never said it did

[Lerro]

Because Communism dosn't work with humans that's why

Neither does Capitalism.

Yuh-huh.

[Arumdaum]

Since when did you need to kill people to be stateless, classless, and moneyless?

Because Communism dosn't work with humans that's why

Why doesn't it work?

Are inhumans incapable of existing in a society without an established state? Without a class system? Without money? Humans have lived like that before.

[Luziyca]

Because Communism dosn't work with humans that's why

Why doesn't it work?

Are inhumans incapable of existing in a society without an established state? Without a class system? Without money? Humans have lived like that before.

First Nations?
Somalia?
African tribes?

[Lerro]

Because Communism dosn't work with humans that's why

Why doesn't it work?

Are inhumans incapable of existing in a society without an established state? Without a class system? Without money? Humans have lived like that before.

Yes, back when we were all in caves. Then we established states and developed a monetary system or two.

[North Calaveras]

Because Communism dosn't work with humans that's why

Why doesn't it work?

Are inhumans incapable of existing in a society without an established state? Without a class system? Without money? Humans have lived like that before.

Humans always have classes

besides burden of proof for communism to work is definatley on the communists, and they have done a very good job at showing that havn't they

[Arumdaum]

I know. But does being charitable make you Christian?

If you're not charitable, are you not Christian?

Christianity advocates charitableness, but communism requires anarchy. It doesn't just advocate it, it needs it.

Since no human being would behave in the ways you said communism would bring about (no private property, no money, and so on) without being forced to, that means that communism is a contradiction. Just like any anarcho-fillintheblankhere.

Humans suddenly won't be able behave normally without a state? Without a class system? Without money?

How exactly is it a contradiction? Be more specific.

[Arumdaum]

Why doesn't it work?

Are inhumans incapable of existing in a society without an established state? Without a class system? Without money? Humans have lived like that before.

First Nations?
Somalia?
African tribes?

I'm pretty sure they had a class system, and Somalia is a variety of multiple states. There is no absence of a state.

[Arumdaum]

Why doesn't it work?

Are inhumans incapable of existing in a society without an established state? Without a class system? Without money? Humans have lived like that before.

Yes, back when we were all in caves. Then we established states and developed a monetary system or two.

Yes, because in the 1910's, 20's, 30's, 60', 70's, and 80's, we were all living in caves, right?

[Lerro]

Since no human being would behave in the ways you said communism would bring about (no private property, no money, and so on) without being forced to, that means that communism is a contradiction. Just like any anarcho-fillintheblankhere.

Humans suddenly won't be able behave normally without a state? Without a class system? Without money?

How exactly is it a contradiction? Be more specific.

I'm saying that on their own, humans wouldn't establish a communal classless society lacking money unless forced to. The only institution that could bring that force to bear is a state.

Anarcho-communism wants people to spontaneously behave in a weird and unnatural way entirely of their own volition.

[Lerro]

Yes, back when we were all in caves. Then we established states and developed a monetary system or two.

Yes, because in the 1910's, 20's, 30's, 60', 70's, and 80's, we were all living in caves, right?

?

America only has had a government in the last two decades?

[Costa Fiero]

Communism requires an anarchistic system.

Does Christianity require charitableness?

My point is, because your belief system/ideology has a set of aspects and beliefs that are required doesn't mean that if you don't adhere to one of more of these specific aspects or points doesn't make you what you are. For example, the Roman Catholic Church is infamous for being fairly greedy (no offence to Roman Catholics intended) and yet because they are "greedy" doesn't mean that they aren't Christians.

[Arumdaum]

Why doesn't it work?

Are inhumans incapable of existing in a society without an established state? Without a class system? Without money? Humans have lived like that before.

Humans always have classes

besides burden of proof for communism to work is definatley on the communists, and they have done a very good job at showing that havn't they

Humans have existed without a class system in Spain and Ukraine, as well as in communes in Israel and the US.

It's hard to do so, especially when many attempts have been crushed my military powers that hate communists. It also depends on what you view as "it works".