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The NRA can talk all they want about how "guns don't kill people ... people kill people" but at the end of the day if the guns weren't manufactured in the first place, the point would be moot.

Since no court seems willing to put a logical legal interpretation on the 2nd amendment to the US Constitution, it should just be outright appealed.

In every tragedy there is a silver lining - and if this Colorado shooting catastrophe brings us any closer to banning recreational ownership of assault rifles and handguns in the US, then maybe something can come of it.

It's just too easy to get a hold of a gun.

Ora Amaris wrote:if the guns weren't manufactured in the first place, the point would be moot.

Good luck getting the US government to become pacifists.

Ora Amaris wrote:The NRA can talk all they want about how "guns don't kill people ... people kill people" but at the end of the day if the guns weren't manufactured in the first place, the point would be moot.

Since no court seems willing to put a logical legal interpretation on the 2nd amendment to the US Constitution, it should just be outright appealed.

In every tragedy there is a silver lining - and if this Colorado shooting catastrophe brings us any closer to banning recreational ownership of assault rifles and handguns in the US, then maybe something can come of it.

It's just too easy to get a hold of a gun.

Destroy a central part of our culture, yeah you can definatley leave the US, I don't care if your republican or democrat.

As much as I hate how loose gun laws are in this country, even I don't want them fully banned, as there are legitimate uses for them.

Edit: And it's responses like the one above mine that make saying this so hard for me.

What would be a logical interpretation of the Second Amendment?

Hell no.

Why?

Several state legislatures have discussed the possibility of secession if Washington ever attempts to ban the private ownership of firearms. Trying to end gun violence is a worthwhile goal, but it's not worth inciting a second war of secession.
However, does every problem really require a Federal solution? The states should be able to restrict gun ownership, if that's what their legislatures and voters favor.

theres no sense in wasting time even thinking about it

its not going to happen

we cant even repeal the 3rd.

Threlizdun wrote:Why?

Because guns are bad, mmm'kay?

Why? We curb the worst excesses of private gun ownership via regulation.
Things like Automatic weapons SHOULD be banned and we should make customers provide ID as proof that their 18.

But I'd be opposed to outright banning of firearms.

Wikkiwallana wrote:As much as I hate how loose gun laws are in this country, even I don't want them fully banned, as there are legitimate uses for them.

Edit: And it's responses like the one above mine that make saying this so hard for me.

it's people like the OP that make me want to say that.

Ora Amaris wrote:The NRA can talk all they want about how "guns don't kill people ... people kill people" but at the end of the day if the guns weren't manufactured in the first place, the point would be moot.

Since no court seems willing to put a logical legal interpretation on the 2nd amendment to the US Constitution, it should just be outright appealed.

In every tragedy there is a silver lining - and if this Colorado shooting catastrophe brings us any closer to banning recreational ownership of assault rifles and handguns in the US, then maybe something can come of it.

It's just too easy to get a hold of a gun.

The war on drugs is the biggest reason for the massive amount of gun crime in this country. Legalize drugs, don't ban guns.

Blazedtown wrote:

Ora Amaris wrote:The NRA can talk all they want about how "guns don't kill people ... people kill people" but at the end of the day if the guns weren't manufactured in the first place, the point would be moot.

Since no court seems willing to put a logical legal interpretation on the 2nd amendment to the US Constitution, it should just be outright appealed.

In every tragedy there is a silver lining - and if this Colorado shooting catastrophe brings us any closer to banning recreational ownership of assault rifles and handguns in the US, then maybe something can come of it.

It's just too easy to get a hold of a gun.

The war on drugs is the biggest reason for the massive amount of gun crime in this country. Legalize drugs, don't ban guns.

This ^

Don't do it. If anything, the outright illegalization of gun ownership could make things post-Aurora Theater Massacre worse.

Look at Mexico's gun laws and then look at their crime. You are ignorant if you think a new law will stop a criminal.

North Calaveras wrote:

Blazedtown wrote:
The war on drugs is the biggest reason for the massive amount of gun crime in this country. Legalize drugs, don't ban guns.

This ^

Because we'll be all too stoned to think about putting bullets into other individuals.

Genivaria wrote:Why? We curb the worst excesses of private gun ownership via regulation.
Things like Automatic weapons SHOULD be banned and we should make customers provide ID as proof that their 18.

But I'd be opposed to outright banning of firearms.

One must provide ID to purchase a firearm. It's been federal law for several decades.

Not even going to bother with this thread other than to say this: it will never happen.

Aleckandor wrote:

North Calaveras wrote:
This ^

Because we'll be all too stoned to think about putting bullets into other individuals.

at least we will still have our guns then

Blazedtown wrote:The war on drugs is the biggest reason for the massive amount of gun crime in this country. Legalize drugs, don't ban guns.

Why not legalize drugs, and ban guns?

North Calaveras wrote:

Wikkiwallana wrote:As much as I hate how loose gun laws are in this country, even I don't want them fully banned, as there are legitimate uses for them.

Edit: And it's responses like the one above mine that make saying this so hard for me.

it's people like the OP that make me want to say that.

Not his fault you would rather kick him out than discuss your differences.

North Calaveras wrote:

Aleckandor wrote:
Because we'll be all too stoned to think about putting bullets into other individuals.

at least we will still have our guns then

It's a win-win.

Adafdfadfasdf wrote:

Genivaria wrote:Why? We curb the worst excesses of private gun ownership via regulation.
Things like Automatic weapons SHOULD be banned and we should make customers provide ID as proof that their 18.

But I'd be opposed to outright banning of firearms.

One must provide ID to purchase a firearm. It's been federal law for several decades.

and buying automatic weapons requires the purchaser to go through the extensive CLASS 3 FFL legal process.

Ora Amaris wrote:

Blazedtown wrote:The war on drugs is the biggest reason for the massive amount of gun crime in this country. Legalize drugs, don't ban guns.

Why not legalize drugs, and ban guns?

Why ban anything? My firearms are of no danger to you--don't restrict my rights.