Repeal the 2nd Amendment

[Hathradic States]

Why your at it, why don't you ban bows, staves, swords, knives, bats, hockey sticks, and anything else that can potentially harm other people? Hell, ban my shoes why you are at it, lord knows they smell enough.

If your shoes were likely to kill or injure five dozen people before anyone could intervene to stop you, that would be a good argument.

You obviously have not smelled my shoes lately.

Why your at it, why don't you ban bows, staves, swords, knives, bats, hockey sticks, and anything else that can potentially harm other people? Hell, ban my shoes why you are at it, lord knows they smell enough.

exactly, we shouldn't be banning things, its the people responsible who are to be scrutinized, not the inanimate object

Amen to that. Fuck, all banning shit does is make sure that only criminals, who already have no respect for the law, get their hands on them.

[Chernoslavia]

cars make it easy to(still going to use this arguement)

Cars also serve non-hostile functions. Far more often than they are used as weapons.

True, but car accidents cause more deaths than guns. But does that mean we need to ban cars? Absolutely not!

[Not Safe For Work]

Vigilante justice. What could possibly go wrong.

Frankly, I'm not interested in internet tough guy bravado. Maybe that's just me.

How am I the tough guy? I'm
Just stating that people will
Be afraid to commit crime if
People around them had
ConcealedCarryWeapons.

Like you are tough >.>

I'm not saying I'm tough. I'm not saying you're tough. I'm saying you're acting like the stereotype of the 'internet tough guy'. with all your talk about what an amazing killing machine you'd be, and how the world would be better for it.

[North Calaveras]

Cars also serve non-hostile functions. Far more often than they are used as weapons.

True, but car accidents cause more deaths than guns.

by far, besides i was only argueing capability, cause people here seem to think guns are capable of so much damage they should be banned, but no ones banning cars and they are just as capable.

[Gauthier]

If you need 5.56 NATO to hunt deer and duck you have a serious problem to begin with. That said, completely banning all firearms is ridiculous.

[Not Safe For Work]

Cars also serve non-hostile functions. Far more often than they are used as weapons.

True, but car accidents cause more deaths than guns. But does that mean we need to ban cars? Absolutely not!

Perhaps the operative word, there, is 'accidents'.

[Yes Im Biop]

Never realized that america was invading its self.

APV's can be easily taen down by explosives you can make in yoru garage.
Aircraft aren't much of a problem when they can't see you
Sat's can only be used when they are aligned. Which cost's money and time
UAV's are pretty good.
Wall penetrating scopes? No. The Predator can though, but not something you can mount on a calibrated rifle.
LRM's need to be coordinated, or beam ridden.
Tac Ops for civies? Not in this reality
Intell services don't work well for Gorilla warfare
Real time is not as effective as you think
Navy don't do shit hen your 2000 miles from an ocean.

Since untrained civilians with guns and armed with a "Do it yourself Guerrilla Warfare" manual are so deadly I'm surprised the US isn't getting soundly defeated in every conflict it gets into.

Ever Read the Archaist cook book? I have. Go read it and tell me you can't fine 4 ways to blow up a Striker with teh stuff you can find in a garage and kitchen.

[Not Safe For Work]

True, but car accidents cause more deaths than guns.

by far, besides i was only argueing capability, cause people here seem to think guns are capable of so much damage they should be banned, but no ones banning cars and they are just as capable.

You already won this battle, as far as I'm concerned. I'm right there with you - let's ban cars.

[Nation of Fortune]

Do you have any idea the strain out right banning of firearms would cause on the economy? The government would have to reimburse every individual gun owner and every gun store for the price of their weapons. If they didn't, that would be outright theft. I don't know about everyone else, but the value of my guns combined runs somewhere around 4-5k dollars. You can bet your ass I would want compensation for that. Albeit, I would rather die before that happened, and I have the training and knowledge to make sure people would think twice before trying to take my guns away.

[Lancaster of Wessex]

True, but car accidents cause more deaths than guns.

by far, besides i was only argueing capability, cause people here seem to think guns are capable of so much damage they should be banned, but no ones banning cars and they are just as capable.

I'm pretty sure the number of deaths caused by deliberately running someone over pales to those caused by firearms.

Ridiculous to even compare the two.

[Chernoslavia]

True, but car accidents cause more deaths than guns.

by far, besides i was only argueing capability, cause people here seem to think guns are capable of so much damage they should be banned, but no ones banning cars and they are just as capable.

But some people tend to care more about Kim Kardashian's personal sex life than face reality.

[Yes Im Biop]

Do you have any idea the strain out right banning of firearms would cause on the economy? The government would have to reimburse every individual gun owner and every gun store for the price of their weapons. If they didn't, that would be outright theft. I don't know about everyone else, but the value of my guns combined runs somewhere around 4-5k dollars. You can bet your ass I would want compensation for that. Albeit, I would rather die before that happened, and I have the training and knowledge to make sure people would think twice before trying to take my guns away.

This was in my first post, and i think my 2nd point

[North Calaveras]

by far, besides i was only argueing capability, cause people here seem to think guns are capable of so much damage they should be banned, but no ones banning cars and they are just as capable.

You already won this battle, as far as I'm concerned. I'm right there with you - let's ban cars.

im not advocating banning cars or guns though because im not ignorant on what they are capable of.

[Not Safe For Work]

cars make it easy to(still going to use this arguement)

Cars also serve non-hostile functions. Far more often than they are used as weapons.

True. Car fatalities are not the design parameter for which cars are designed. When they occur, they are either the result of misuse, or terrible tragic accident.

Guns, on the other hand, are designed expressly for the purpose of putting hard projectiles in soft targets.

[Chernoslavia]

by far, besides i was only argueing capability, cause people here seem to think guns are capable of so much damage they should be banned, but no ones banning cars and they are just as capable.

You already won this battle, as far as I'm concerned. I'm right there with you - let's ban cars.

Thats not what he had in mind.

[Nation of Fortune]

Do you have any idea the strain out right banning of firearms would cause on the economy? The government would have to reimburse every individual gun owner and every gun store for the price of their weapons. If they didn't, that would be outright theft. I don't know about everyone else, but the value of my guns combined runs somewhere around 4-5k dollars. You can bet your ass I would want compensation for that. Albeit, I would rather die before that happened, and I have the training and knowledge to make sure people would think twice before trying to take my guns away.

This was in my first post, and i think my 2nd point

Sorry if I'm not a fan of catching up on 30 some odd pages. Probably would have quoted you if I had seen it.

[Hathradic States]

If you need 5.56 NATO to hunt deer and duck you have a serious problem to begin with. That said, completely banning all firearms is ridiculous.

Why would you have problems if you want to use 5.56 NATO? It is very useful for varmint hunting.


That said, it is cheaper to go plinking with my 5.56mm or my 7.62mm than wasting my 7.92mm ammo.

[Arkinesia]

The NRA can talk all they want about how "guns don't kill people ... people kill people" but at the end of the day if the guns weren't manufactured in the first place, the point would be moot.

Since no court seems willing to put a logical legal interpretation on the 2nd amendment to the US Constitution, it should just be outright appealed.

In every tragedy there is a silver lining - and if this Colorado shooting catastrophe brings us any closer to banning recreational ownership of assault rifles and handguns in the US, then maybe something can come of it.

It's just too easy to get a hold of a gun.

Good luck with that.

SCOTUS has ruled multiple times in favor of private ownership of firearms. There is no “lack of logical legal interpretation” when it comes to the court system.

[Not Safe For Work]

You already won this battle, as far as I'm concerned. I'm right there with you - let's ban cars.

im not advocating banning cars or guns though because im not ignorant on what they are capable of.

Your design is irrelevant. You're very effective at arguing for banning guns and cars.

The question isn't ignorance of what they are capable of - I'm certainly not accusing you of that.

No, the question is ignorance of what they are used for. And that seems to be an exile you've sentenced yourself to.

[Wikkiwallana]

I'm sorry, you have armored transport vehicles, aircraft, satellites, unmanned drones, a coordinated command structure, infrared wall penetrating scopes, long range missiles, tac-ops units, intelligence services, real-time updated mission control centers, and a navy?

Never realized that america was invading its self.

Again, what the hell are you talking about?

APV's can be easily taen down by explosives you can make in yoru garage.

How many people can do so without blowing themselves up in the process?

Aircraft aren't much of a problem when they can't see you

Because it's not like they have thermal scanning capabilities, explosive weapons, or people need to go outside at some point.

Sat's can only be used when they are aligned. Which cost's money and time

Two things any country are going to commit to an invasion.

UAV's are pretty good.
Wall penetrating scopes? No. The Predator can though, but not something you can mount on a calibrated rifle.

Sucks for you then.

LRM's need to be coordinated, or beam ridden.

Gee, I thought the invading nation would just fire them blindly…

Tac Ops for civies? Not in this reality

That's what I thought.

Intell services don't work well for Gorilla warfare

Source?

Real time is not as effective as you think

Still better than one guy in a basement with a ham radio.

Navy don't do shit hen your 2000 miles from an ocean.

Most of America's population is very close to the coast.

[Wikkiwallana]

I'm sorry, why did you think I was talking about the US military?

Sweet. Then any other tank in the world will be easier to kill with an RPG-7

And how many of those do you have, exactly?

[Drekka]

How am I the tough guy? I'm
Just stating that people will
Be afraid to commit crime if
People around them had
ConcealedCarryWeapons.

Like you are tough >.>

I'm not saying I'm tough. I'm not saying you're tough. I'm saying you're acting like the stereotype of the 'internet tough guy'. with all your talk about what an amazing killing machine you'd be, and how the world would be better for it.

5 inch groupings at 21 yards
isn't the Best, maybe for you it is.
So, stopping a burglar from stabbing
me and stealing my sh*t is "vigilantism"?
If you have been robbed before, you
Wouldn't be judgin me like this

Never again . R.I.P coin collection

[Adafdfadfasdf]

If you need 5.56 NATO to hunt deer and duck you have a serious problem to begin with. That said, completely banning all firearms is ridiculous.

If you're hunting birds with a rifle, you do have serious problems...

[Wikkiwallana]

In Switzerland?

Must be. Because I had to go to a bloody gun store to get my ammo.

[North Calaveras]

If you need 5.56 NATO to hunt deer and duck you have a serious problem to begin with. That said, completely banning all firearms is ridiculous.

If you're hunting birds with a rifle, you do have serious problems...

lol, typical ignorance of firearms, most of the time people who advocate against firearms are ignorant as fuck.