Repeal the 2nd Amendment

[Lessnt]

Also since 22LR guns in the USA are very very popular they are likely to be the weapon used to kill most people who are killed with guns in the USA.

Kinda funny.
In the USA people are scared of the AK-47 and the Ar-15...
Yet the gun likely to kill them most is a 22LR.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/09/01/ex ... rs-in-200/
And people do not want guns in california....let all the crazy people have them then....like that is gonna be better.
This is why I seriously contemplate getting some body armor.
Not allowed to carry a gun but allowed to wear body armor.

News medias like Fox and CNN are the worst place to get firearm knowledge, or even crime statistics involving firearms. In general I wouldnt rely on any news source for gun crime stats.

I do not.
I know the Laws and the crimes in my state.
All of which still point to getting body armor.

[Chernoslavia]

News medias like Fox and CNN are the worst place to get firearm knowledge, or even crime statistics involving firearms. In general I wouldnt rely on any news source for gun crime stats.

I do not.
I know the Laws and the crimes in my state.
All of which still point to getting body armor.

Just saying

[Geresbeth]

I don't agree with guns AT ALL, being a pacifist ( but please don't all start yelling about the importance of the military. I've heard it all before and thats not what this thread is about) and yes, I think they should be banned.
Say one respectable, middle class man has a gun. He keeps it in a safe place, doesn't use it and thinks of it as a precaution. But if this man has a messed up son/daughter, how difficult would it be for them to find, procure and use it?
Of course the U.S aren't going to change the law, thats quite obvious, but thats no reason not to have an intelligent debate about it. I don't think that banning guns would stop crime, of course I don't, but it would probably make it less.
And don't legalise drugs either for goodness sake! All thats going to do is to increase crime- even the most respectable of people act much differently under the influence of drugs.

[Lessnt]

I don't agree with guns AT ALL, being a pacifist ( but please don't all start yelling about the importance of the military. I've heard it all before and thats not what this thread is about) and yes, I think they should be banned.
Say one respectable, middle class man has a gun. He keeps it in a safe place, doesn't use it and thinks of it as a precaution. But if this man has a messed up son/daughter, how difficult would it be for them to find, procure and use it?
Of course the U.S aren't going to change the law, thats quite obvious, but thats no reason not to have an intelligent debate about it. I don't think that banning guns would stop crime, of course I don't, but it would probably make it less.
And don't legalise drugs either for goodness sake! All thats going to do is to increase crime- even the most respectable of people act much differently under the influence of drugs.

Incorrect.
Armed criminals and unarmed civilians increase crime.

[Geresbeth]

I don't agree with guns AT ALL, being a pacifist ( but please don't all start yelling about the importance of the military. I've heard it all before and thats not what this thread is about) and yes, I think they should be banned.
Say one respectable, middle class man has a gun. He keeps it in a safe place, doesn't use it and thinks of it as a precaution. But if this man has a messed up son/daughter, how difficult would it be for them to find, procure and use it?
Of course the U.S aren't going to change the law, thats quite obvious, but thats no reason not to have an intelligent debate about it. I don't think that banning guns would stop crime, of course I don't, but it would probably make it less.
And don't legalise drugs either for goodness sake! All thats going to do is to increase crime- even the most respectable of people act much differently under the influence of drugs.

Incorrect.
Armed criminals and unarmed civilians increase crime.

I agree on armed criminals. However, if civilians were armed,this might happen. They'd see a criminal, and go 'Oh, I know, I'm armed, so's he, I'll shoot him first' Whichever way you look at it, there's a dead body and a crime. I'm not saying that I am right and that my ideas should be put into place however. I will be the first to acknowledge that my ideas and plans have flaws in them, but they are my opinions and I try not to allow them to be offensive to anyone ( if I do, please let me know).

[Chernoslavia]

Incorrect.
Armed criminals and unarmed civilians increase crime.

I agree on armed criminals. However, if civilians were armed,this might happen. They'd see a criminal, and go 'Oh, I know, I'm armed, so's he, I'll shoot him first' Whichever way you look at it, there's a dead body and a crime. I'm not saying that I am right and that my ideas should be put into place however. I will be the first to acknowledge that my ideas and plans have flaws in them, but they are my opinions and I try not to allow them to be offensive to anyone ( if I do, please let me know).

I respect your opinion, but in NSG expect somebody to start throwing shit at you and by shit I mean hate comments. Half of people here on NSG know nothing more than to start argueing pointlessly at someone who was just expressing their own opinion.

[Gun Manufacturers]

I don't agree with guns AT ALL, being a pacifist ( but please don't all start yelling about the importance of the military. I've heard it all before and thats not what this thread is about) and yes, I think they should be banned.
Say one respectable, middle class man has a gun. He keeps it in a safe place, doesn't use it and thinks of it as a precaution. But if this man has a messed up son/daughter, how difficult would it be for them to find, procure and use it?
Of course the U.S aren't going to change the law, thats quite obvious, but thats no reason not to have an intelligent debate about it. I don't think that banning guns would stop crime, of course I don't, but it would probably make it less.
And don't legalise drugs either for goodness sake! All thats going to do is to increase crime- even the most respectable of people act much differently under the influence of drugs.

That's one of the reasons these are made.

[Sucrati]

Incorrect.
Armed criminals and unarmed civilians increase crime.

I agree on armed criminals. However, if civilians were armed,this might happen. They'd see a criminal, and go 'Oh, I know, I'm armed, so's he, I'll shoot him first' Whichever way you look at it, there's a dead body and a crime. I'm not saying that I am right and that my ideas should be put into place however. I will be the first to acknowledge that my ideas and plans have flaws in them, but they are my opinions and I try not to allow them to be offensive to anyone ( if I do, please let me know).

Just because someone has been found guilty of a crime doesn't mean that they are automatically armed. Some criminals actually go straight and don't break the law after receiving their punishment. So automatically assuming a criminal is armed is a bad way to determine the right to stand your ground. Usually those who follow the law are using their firearms AFTER the armed criminals make threats or use said firearms or other weapons. And most responsible gun owners don't do what you stated above. It's usually the other way around but with the civilian being unarmed.

[Patriqvinia]

Incorrect.
Armed criminals and unarmed civilians increase crime.

I agree on armed criminals. However, if civilians were armed,this might happen. They'd see a criminal, and go 'Oh, I know, I'm armed, so's he, I'll shoot him first' Whichever way you look at it, there's a dead body and a crime. I'm not saying that I am right and that my ideas should be put into place however. I will be the first to acknowledge that my ideas and plans have flaws in them, but they are my opinions and I try not to allow them to be offensive to anyone ( if I do, please let me know).

In one scenario, there's a dead body shot person (people often don't die from being shot), a crime, and that crime's retribution.