Repeal the 2nd Amendment

[Mk Steele]

Would a criminal or any person who harbors the intent to kill other people for no other reason than to just do it really follow the rules and not break the law? If that were the case then right now there should be no murders/massacres in the world because that's illegal, cartels and drug lords would not exist because their activities are by definition "illegal". In the end any type of restrictions or attempts to repeal the 2nd Amendment would only serve to inhibit the ability for responsible civilians to purchase firearms.

[Gaelic Celtia]

I don't agree that guns should be outright banned, but i do think there should be some tighter restricitions on who can buy and what type of firearm. People should be able to keep handguns, rifles, and shotguns for hunting and self defence but I don't think we should be able to sell an assault rifle or submachine gun to the genreal public.

[Lessnt]

I don't agree that guns should be outright banned, but i do think there should be some tighter restricitions on who can buy and what type of firearm. People should be able to keep handguns, rifles, and shotguns for hunting and self defence but I don't think we should be able to sell an assault rifle or submachine gun to the genreal public.

We do not.
Without special permission.
This is federal law.

[Gaelic Celtia]

I don't agree that guns should be outright banned, but i do think there should be some tighter restricitions on who can buy and what type of firearm. People should be able to keep handguns, rifles, and shotguns for hunting and self defence but I don't think we should be able to sell an assault rifle or submachine gun to the genreal public.

We do not.
Without special permission.
This is federal law.

I understand that, but i think even that should be gone. there is no need to have an AR-15 laying around the house. Keep everything else on the market, but not ARs and SMGs

[Ridicularia]

I understand that, but i think even that should be gone. there is no need to have an AR-15 laying around the house. Keep everything else on the market, but not ARs and SMGs

AR-15s aren't really assault rifles, and SMGs aren't allowed at all, without a pain-in-the-ass Class III license.

[Lessnt]

We do not.
Without special permission.
This is federal law.

I understand that, but i think even that should be gone. there is no need to have an AR-15 laying around the house. Keep everything else on the market, but not ARs and SMGs

California laws have definitions on assault weapons.Including Ar 15s as a banned weapon.
And any gun with a mag capacity of more than 10 is illegal.
We still had a case where a korean student went and kill 11 or more people with a 45 acp pistol.
He just went around executing people.
And ran away before the police set up a perimeter and told some store clerk he just killed some people.

He did not need an AR 15 to kill.He did not need a mag capacity of over 10 to kill.
He just needed everyone to be helpless and do nothing while he murdered them.

[Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f]

I understand that, but i think even that should be gone. there is no need to have an AR-15 laying around the house. Keep everything else on the market, but not ARs and SMGs

California laws have definitions on assault weapons.Including Ar 15s as a banned weapon.
And any gun with a mag capacity of more than 10 is illegal.
We still had a case where a korean student went and kill 11 or more people with a 45 acp pistol.
He just went around executing people.
And ran away before the police set up a perimeter and told some store clerk he just killed some people.

He did not need an AR 15 to kill.He did not need a mag capacity of over 10 to kill.
He just needed everyone to be helpless and do nothing while he murdered them.

Pretty simplistic view of the Virginia Tech shooting...given that the shooter had been demonstrating unbalanced behaviour quite a while before the shooting.

[Lessnt]

California laws have definitions on assault weapons.Including Ar 15s as a banned weapon.
And any gun with a mag capacity of more than 10 is illegal.
We still had a case where a korean student went and kill 11 or more people with a 45 acp pistol.
He just went around executing people.
And ran away before the police set up a perimeter and told some store clerk he just killed some people.

He did not need an AR 15 to kill.He did not need a mag capacity of over 10 to kill.
He just needed everyone to be helpless and do nothing while he murdered them.

Pretty simplistic view of the Virginia Tech shooting...given that the shooter had been demonstrating unbalanced behaviour quite a while before the shooting.

Wrong shooting bud.

[Mk Steele]

We do not.
Without special permission.
This is federal law.

I understand that, but i think even that should be gone. there is no need to have an AR-15 laying around the house. Keep everything else on the market, but not ARs and SMGs

I disagree, to many people who own guns, they will probably tell you they have those guns as a hobby and because it's just plain awesome, an example of this would be supercars, no one needs to have a lamborghini or a bugatti veyron, yet these cars exist for the people who can afford an expensive toy that can go 190+mph and drain the gas tank in less than an hour, and they still buy them. AR-15s, Civilian SMGs exist for the same purpose, people want them because they simply want them, who are we to tell them that they shouldn't buy them and go find another hobby.

[Lessnt]

I understand that, but i think even that should be gone. there is no need to have an AR-15 laying around the house. Keep everything else on the market, but not ARs and SMGs

I disagree, to many people who own guns, they will probably tell you they have those guns as a hobby and because it's just plain awesome, an example of this would be supercars, no one needs to have a lamborghini or a bugatti veyron, yet these cars exist for the people who can afford an expensive toy that can go 190+mph and drain the gas tank in less than an hour, and they still buy them. AR-15s, Civilian SMGs exist for the same purpose, people want them because they simply want them, who are we to tell them that they shouldn't buy them and go find another hobby.

Id own a single shot rifle just because I want one despite it not being practical for anything compared to other available guns.

[Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f]

Pretty simplistic view of the Virginia Tech shooting...given that the shooter had been demonstrating unbalanced behaviour quite a while before the shooting.

Wrong shooting bud.

Oh.

We still had a case where a korean student went and kill 11 or more people with a 45 acp pistol.
He just went around executing people.
And ran away before the police set up a perimeter and told some store clerk he just killed some people.

Which are you referring to? Bud.

[Lessnt]

Wrong shooting bud.

Oh.

We still had a case where a korean student went and kill 11 or more people with a 45 acp pistol.
He just went around executing people.
And ran away before the police set up a perimeter and told some store clerk he just killed some people.

Which are you referring to? Bud.

Was not that big of a media thing.
It happened less than 2 years ago.
Its one of the reasons I think we cannot carry weapons in california anymore.

[Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f]

Oh.



Which are you referring to? Bud.

Was not that big of a media thing.
It happened less than 2 years ago.
Its one of the reasons I think we cannot carry weapons in california anymore.

yes yes...source?

[Lessnt]

Was not that big of a media thing.
It happened less than 2 years ago.
Its one of the reasons I think we cannot carry weapons in california anymore.

yes yes...source?

no source bud.
Keep up on the news.

[Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f]

yes yes...source?

no source bud.
Keep up on the news.

so yer talking outta yer arse? ok.

[Des-Bal]

no source bud.
Keep up on the news.

Uh bullshit, you can't talk about a specific event without being able to substantiate that it actually happened.

[Lessnt]

no source bud.
Keep up on the news.

so yer talking outta yer arse? ok.

Your free to think so.
Its not like I get any rewards for proving you guys wrong in your beliefs.

[Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f]

so yer talking outta yer arse? ok.

Your free to think so.
Its not like I get any rewards for proving you guys wrong in your beliefs.

Well no...you highlighted a specific incident. You should be able to provide some reference that is reputable. That's the way it works, bud.

As for my beliefs, irrelevant but also quite clearly you have no idea what my beliefs are.

You are really not aiding your position in any way.

[Mk Steele]

Actually the reason is because California has such strict gun laws is because it's Democratic to the core, it's an unfortunate trend, I live in Illinois and the gun laws here while not as strict as Cali, it's still bothersome. As far as I know we are the only state that requires one to get a Firearms Ownership ID card (FOID) before being able to buy a gun, and then if you live in Chicago you need to get a Chicago Firearms License along with the FOID as well as registering your weapons with Chicago PD as well as paying $50-100 every so years so you can continue owning firearms within city limits. BUT before that you also need to take classes at a registered firearms dealer to learn how to shoot a gun and take the safety course before you can buy a gun, (If you live in Chicago that is.)

Extremely bothersome if you ask me.

[Our Most Resplendent Goddess Sen]

We do not.
Without special permission.
This is federal law.

I understand that, but i think even that should be gone. there is no need to have an AR-15 laying around the house. Keep everything else on the market, but not ARs and SMGs

AR-15s are not assault rifles.

Why is an AR-15 worse than, say, any other semi-auto rifle?

[Grinning Dragon]

Id own a single shot rifle just because I want one despite it not being practical for anything compared to other available guns.

I got each of the kids a single shot .22 Cricket, great training tool for the young ones as it is designed for young children, so there is a practicality to a single shot weapon.

[Lessnt]

Id own a single shot rifle just because I want one despite it not being practical for anything compared to other available guns.

I got each of the kids a single shot .22 Cricket, great training tool for the young ones as it is designed for young children, so there is a practicality to a single shot weapon.

sure....you could have gotten them bolt action though.Teach them about magazines and what not.

[Grinning Dragon]

I understand that, but i think even that should be gone. there is no need to have an AR-15 laying around the house. Keep everything else on the market, but not ARs and SMGs

AR-15s are not assault rifles.

Why is an AR-15 worse than, say, any other semi-auto rifle?

Because the bubble headed beach blond with a gleam in her eye told me so.
That and they are evil looking, with the thingy that goes up and all.

[Lessnt]

Actually the reason is because California has such strict gun laws is because it's Democratic to the core, it's an unfortunate trend, I live in Illinois and the gun laws here while not as strict as Cali, it's still bothersome. As far as I know we are the only state that requires one to get a Firearms Ownership ID card (FOID) before being able to buy a gun, and then if you live in Chicago you need to get a Chicago Firearms License along with the FOID as well as registering your weapons with Chicago PD as well as paying $50-100 every so years so you can continue owning firearms within city limits. BUT before that you also need to take classes at a registered firearms dealer to learn how to shoot a gun and take the safety course before you can buy a gun, (If you live in Chicago that is.)

Extremely bothersome if you ask me.

Criminals get illegal guns and bypass all that right?

[Grinning Dragon]

I got each of the kids a single shot .22 Cricket, great training tool for the young ones as it is designed for young children, so there is a practicality to a single shot weapon.

sure....you could have gotten them bolt action though.Teach them about magazines and what not.

In time. They both started off with BB / pellet guns, then i worked them up to the .22
I also go about training my kids a lil differently then the other parents. I require my kids to be able to disassemble and reassemble the weapon before going to go shoot. With that I also explain each part of the weapon and its function, then it is dry fire practice drills, then we go to the range and kill evil paper targets.