Repeal the 2nd Amendment

[Not Safe For Work]

Obvious support, you say?

Source?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_mafia

I meant a source that backs your claim. That link doesn't. Quite the opposite in fact.

[Wadiyajikistan]

Banning guns in America is kinda anti-civil rights, if you ask me. Sadly, yes theres the point of those twits and lunatics that love to kill innocent people because Call of Duty isnt enough for them, but banning guns is kinda like the government taking away the peoples right to protect themsleves. Its like saying:

"The US government does not want you to defend yourself. But no worries, youll still be protected by police, military, and other government-controlled systems."

Its in a small way a step-up to the government controlling us completely.

[Chernoslavia]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_mafia

I meant a source that backs your claim. That link doesn't. Quite the opposite in fact.

More you asked? Coming right up!

[Wikkiwallana]

Obvious support, you say?

Source?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_mafia

See, that wasn't so hard.

[Not Safe For Work]

All you're really arguing is that an occupying force would bribe local gangs and organized crime.

Nope. The gangs would probably help fight off the
Occupation...

Why?

Organized crime, and criminal street gangs clearly already put their allegiance wherever it is most profitable. Otherwise they'd be doing legitimate jobs, now.

So all your occupying force has to do is make it profitable for the organized criminals and the street gangs to play with them, rather than against them... and they'd sell you out quicker than you could blink.

[Chernoslavia]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_mafia

See, that wasn't so hard.

But it is for you, im still waiting for yours.

[Wikkiwallana]

You said I was lying. That means I knew better and still said otherwise.

I was not lying, as I was going off of my informal knowledge. If you can prove me wrong, do so, but don't call me a liar.

I'm still waiting for that source if you have it.

Did you even read what I said?

[Sardine World]

Planes, On the quest for World Domination, Wants to and can

Not enough of them, not through military might, and no, respectively.

Are you kidding They are Chinese they can fit 50 people in a freakin Clown Car cuz none of them weigh more than 70lbs lmao, "borrows money", and:
Time Travel back to WW2 and bring all that to the present.

[Transhuman Proteus]

I would also like to add that banning certain types of guns is pointless.

For instance, Mutsuo Toi killed 30 of his neighbors with a sword an axe and a shotgun in Japan in 1938.

What matters is where the shooting takes place, when, and how much time the killer as.

Not to mention that shotguns in Japan (and every other firearm) are prohibited.

And just look at Japan. You can't walk down the street without being hacked to death with a sword or having your heart ripped out by some guy with his bare hands.

Then why aren't they fighting the DEA with it? Also, you contradict yourself. First you say they can work together, then you agree they will be to busy killing each other to focus on the invading forces. Lastly, when did Chicago become a coastal city?

I know what i said. There is a insane concept. Its called mufti tasking./

So they can continue to fight amongst themselves and fight an invading force?

Hate to say it but that isn't multi-tasking, that's stupid and it isn't going to win them a war.

They are pronounced Stinger Missiles.

So you're proposing that gangs would have sufficient stocks of Stinger missiles to fight a continued insurgency against a professional military which has occupied the US - even though they have almost no use for Stingers currently, and even though they'd have no interest in fighting a professional military?

I have a feeling some people's sense of "'Merica, FUCK YEAH!" is leading them into the realms of fantasy.

You said I was lying. That means I knew better and still said otherwise.

I was not lying, as I was going off of my informal knowledge. If you can prove me wrong, do so, but don't call me a liar.

I'm still waiting for that source if you have it.

Are you asking him to prove a negative? As in "prove it isn't an American city gang".

Isn't it easier (and more typical - onus of proof wise) for the one claiming something is so to provide the truth? It is an American city gang?

[Wikkiwallana]

And they give a shit what happens to the US because?

They dont give a shit (neither do you) but if you got money, they'll give the contraband its that simple. Now, about that source...

So we agree they won't be fighting on the US's behalf.

[Srboslavija]

Ban all guns. Real men solve problems with their fists.

[Not Safe For Work]

I meant a source that backs your claim. That link doesn't. Quite the opposite in fact.

More you asked? Coming right up!

No - I didn't ask for 'more'.

I asked for you to source your claims. That's a different thing.

The source you DID provide says that there are literally thousands of Russian organized crime groups, hundreds of them having global scale. It doesn't back the claims you made.

Indeed, the mere existence of so many different groups, operating on so many different scales, rather suggests that your claim is false.

[Chernoslavia]

Nope. The gangs would probably help fight off the
Occupation...

Why?

Organized crime, and criminal street gangs clearly already put their allegiance wherever it is most profitable. Otherwise they'd be doing legitimate jobs, now.

So all your occupying force has to do is make it profitable for the organized criminals and the street gangs to play with them, rather than against them... and they'd sell you out quicker than you could blink.

He's not talking about those lame ass street gangbangers that live in the ''ghetto''. He's talking about the big boys, the crime families. Like the Russian Mafia, the Sicilian Mafia, Albanians, British, etc.

[Caninope]

If you need 5.56 NATO to hunt deer and duck you have a serious problem to begin with. That said, completely banning all firearms is ridiculous.

You're right. 5.56 NATO is much too small to actually use on deer. 7.62 NATO, on the other hand, is a much more acceptable size.

[Wikkiwallana]

Not enough of them, not through military might, and no, respectively.

Are you kidding They are Chinese they can fit 50 people in a freakin Clown Car cuz none of them weigh more than 70lbs lmao, "borrows money", and:
Time Travel back to WW2 and bring all that to the present.

Right, I'm now setting everything you say to this in my head.

[Not Safe For Work]

Why?

Organized crime, and criminal street gangs clearly already put their allegiance wherever it is most profitable. Otherwise they'd be doing legitimate jobs, now.

So all your occupying force has to do is make it profitable for the organized criminals and the street gangs to play with them, rather than against them... and they'd sell you out quicker than you could blink.

He's not talking about those lame ass street gangbangers that live in the ''ghetto''. He's talking about the big boys, the crime families. Like the Russian Mafia, the Sicilian Mafia, Albanians, British, etc.

And? You think that the Russian Mafia cares who rules America, so long as the money is good?

[Chernoslavia]

They dont give a shit (neither do you) but if you got money, they'll give the contraband its that simple. Now, about that source...

So we agree they won't be fighting on the US's behalf.

We dont need them to fight we just need them to supply us with the contraband we need, which they can easily smuggle into the country like they do every goddamn time.

[Wikkiwallana]

So we agree they won't be fighting on the US's behalf.

We dont need them to fight we just need them to supply us with the contraband we need, which they can easily smuggle into the country like they do every goddamn time.

Said country doesn't currently have a military blockade in place around it.

[Wadiyajikistan]

So they can continue to fight amongst themselves and fight an invading force?

Hate to say it but that isn't multi-tasking, that's stupid and it isn't going to win them a war.

Interesting (saying it in a non-threatening voice) the Iraqi insurgents of Suuni and Shiiti have done just that. (Sorry if I spelled their names wrong.) and they are kinda like gangs.

[Sardine World]

Are you kidding They are Chinese they can fit 50 people in a freakin Clown Car cuz none of them weigh more than 70lbs lmao, "borrows money", and:
Time Travel back to WW2 and bring all that to the present.

Right, I'm now setting everything you say to this in my head.

The Price is wrong
i just couldnt help bringing this up lol

[Chernoslavia]

He's not talking about those lame ass street gangbangers that live in the ''ghetto''. He's talking about the big boys, the crime families. Like the Russian Mafia, the Sicilian Mafia, Albanians, British, etc.

And? You think that the Russian Mafia cares who rules America, so long as the money is good?

EXACTLY! If you got money theyll give you weapons, which is how gun running works on, all they want is money.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

You can't repeal an amendment, you have to pass another overriding the first one. Also, completely unregulated small arms market FTW.

[Wikkiwallana]

So they can continue to fight amongst themselves and fight an invading force?

Hate to say it but that isn't multi-tasking, that's stupid and it isn't going to win them a war.

Interesting (saying it in a non-threatening voice) the Iraqi insurgents of Suuni and Shiiti have done just that. (Sorry if I spelled their names wrong.) and they are kinda like gangs.

How many different factions of them are there?

[Wikkiwallana]

You can't repeal an amendment, you have to pass another overriding the first one. Also, completely unregulated small arms market FTW.

Also known as one repealing it…

[Sardine World]

You can't repeal an amendment, you have to pass another overriding the first one. Also, completely unregulated small arms market FTW.

Also known as one repealing it…

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