Colorado Movie Theater Massacre

[Pope Joan]

I think the media said something about the perpetrator opening the emergency exit door and returning with his gear.

i was being sarcastic sorry i agree with you, its retarded

wtf is a gun-free zone? like that's going to stop someone ha

It's going to stop the viewers from defending themselves.

[Farnhamia]

i was being sarcastic sorry i agree with you, its retarded

wtf is a gun-free zone? like that's going to stop someone ha

It's going to stop the viewers from defending themselves.

Really? I heard the movie was pretty good.

[Cannot think of a name]

The tear gas is a problem, you might have a point.

As are the multitudes groping around for the exits.

and the movie still playing, having been in a dark theater staring at the only light source etc etc etc...

Look, gun guys...we get it. You likey your guns. You'd be surprised (well, not if you'd been paying attention, but I digress) how many people arguing with you about this event actually agree with you about gun ownership in principle. I, like many others, don't have a problem with gun ownership per se. There are a ton of factors that essentially mean 'gun control' in the context you're talking about is unrealistic (and I'd argue very few people are advocating). Guns are the pee in the pool water, we're simply not going to get them out of our culture at this point. And yeah, other places have more guns that we do and manage to not shoot themselves up as much. So maybe it's not the guns.

Maybe...and here's where you start to become hard to back up...maybe it's the culture of guns.

Because if the first thing you thought when this horrible thing happened was "Oh my god, my guns, they're gonna take my guns!" there is something seriously fucked up about your priorities.

I like cars and I like going fast, but when someone kills someone in a collision my first reaction is "Don't you dare tell me I can't go fast!" That's fucking callous.

If you can't take a moment to recognize the human cost of the tragedy, if you can't have just the slightest inkling that this is what your hobby is capable of and acknowledge it and even make the slightest effort to empathize with people who might be hurt, upset, or afraid then I cannot spare a bit of sympathy for you that your precious guns might come under attack.

You don't have to admit that Guns are the Root of All Evil to admit that this is a terrible tragedy that was made easier by guns. Yeah, you can think that draconian gun control might not be the solution, and I might agree with you, but for fucks sake...just an ounce of self awareness would be nice.

And all of the Paul Kersey fantasy notions about a gun fight in a movie theater is the clear solution to the problem...frankly, there is not much daylight between you and the guy who did this. Because you're both taking a movie fantasy life and pretending it would be super cool in the real world.

Look man, if guns were the solution to gun violence, war zones would be safe as houses.

But you're right. Guns aren't the problem. Thousands of gun owners in many countries manage to own guns and only shoot cans and woodland creatures. But perhaps part of the problem is this crazy notion on display here that guns are some sort of magic problem-solving device that even solves the problems they create.

It's not that you own a gun, or want a gun. It's what you think it does that frankly scares the shit out of me.

[FranksFreedom]

I wanna know how some unemployed 24 y/o bought 20000 bucks worth of weaponry...or why he gave himself up or why he told the cops about his boobytrappe house. It doesn't smell right, it's fishy.

[Typhlochactas]

I wanna know how some unemployed 24 y/o bought 20000 bucks worth of weaponry...or why he gave himself up or why he told the cops about his boobytrappe house. It doesn't smell right, it's fishy.

1: Unemployed does not mean broke. Considering he was planning on a massacre, I don't his finances mattered to him.

2: He gave himself up because there was no way out of the situation. He didn't have any ammunition and there were police everywhere.

3: He's deranged.

4: Don't tell me you're suggesting what I think you are.

[FranksFreedom]

I wanna know how some unemployed 24 y/o bought 20000 bucks worth of weaponry...or why he gave himself up or why he told the cops about his boobytrappe house. It doesn't smell right, it's fishy.

1: Unemployed does not mean broke. Considering he was planning on a massacre, I don't his finances mattered to him.

2: He gave himself up because there was no way out of the situation. He didn't have any ammunition and there were police everywhere.

3: He's deranged.

4: Don't tell me you're suggesting what I think you are.

1: Yeah, but 20,000 is no drop in the bucket for someone with never a job.

2: Why did he not die - he's facing life in prison or execution why would it matter?

3: That is the sensible thing to do...if he was derranged he'dve let the cops die.

4: What? That he wasn't alone?

[TaQud]

It was a fluke incident.

[Gauntleted Fist]

1: Yeah, but 20,000 is no drop in the bucket for someone with never a job.

Not if you're a student with access to unspent loans?

[Typhlochactas]

1: Unemployed does not mean broke. Considering he was planning on a massacre, I don't his finances mattered to him.

2: He gave himself up because there was no way out of the situation. He didn't have any ammunition and there were police everywhere.

3: He's deranged.

4: Don't tell me you're suggesting what I think you are.

1: Yeah, but 20,000 is no drop in the bucket for someone with never a job.

2: Why did he not die - he's facing life in prison or execution why would it matter?

3: That is the sensible thing to do...if he was derranged he'dve let the cops die.

4: What? That he wasn't alone?

1: He was currently unemployed and living with his mom. Based off the information we have now, how do you know he didn't get a loan, borrow money from his parents and friends, or use money he had from previous jobs? You can't rule those out.

2: Like Farnhamia said, only one man in Colorado has been executed since 1977. It's unlikely he would get the death penalty. Why would it matter? I'm not sure. Perhaps he wants to bask in what he did. But I'll wager it's the same reason every person like this would give themselves up: they don't want to die.

3: Since he's deranged, it's entirely possible that telling them about the traps was some part of his Joker persona, because the Joker tells the police and Batman about his plans.

4: He was.

[Cannot think of a name]

1: Yeah, but 20,000 is no drop in the bucket for someone with never a job.

Not if you're a student with access to unspent loans?

Or spending his parent's money...or actually had a job (just because he's a student doesn't mean he doesn't or hasn't had a job. I had up to three at one time during my time in college. Any number of ways to come across the cash.

[Typhlochactas]

Not if you're a student with access to unspent loans?

Or spending his parent's money...or actually had a job (just because he's a student doesn't mean he doesn't or hasn't had a job. I had up to three at one time during my time in college. Any number of ways to come across the cash.

He actually didn't have a job. It was the whole reason he began to work on a PhD.

[Cannot think of a name]

Or spending his parent's money...or actually had a job (just because he's a student doesn't mean he doesn't or hasn't had a job. I had up to three at one time during my time in college. Any number of ways to come across the cash.

He actually didn't have a job. It was the whole reason he began to work on a PhD.

In some instances, being a grad student is a job because you either teach lower division courses or do research assistance etc.

[Typhlochactas]

He actually didn't have a job. It was the whole reason he began to work on a PhD.

In some instances, being a grad student is a job because you either teach lower division courses or do research assistance etc.

No idea, then.

[Keronika]

This isn't the first time the Joker has killed, Heath Ledger was his first victim.

[Gauntleted Fist]

This isn't the first time the Joker has killed, Heath Ledger was his first victim.

Too soon, man.

[Aryavartha]

Theres these things called credit cards. I hear it allows one to buy shit without having cash.

As a grad student and a foreign one at that, I had access to nearly 30 grand with just about a year credit history.

[The Mercenary Peoples]

Theres these things called credit cards. I hear it allows one to buy shit without having cash.

As a grad student and a foreign one at that, I had access to nearly 30 grand with just about a year credit history.

This ^

[Geilinor]

1: Unemployed does not mean broke. Considering he was planning on a massacre, I don't his finances mattered to him.

2: He gave himself up because there was no way out of the situation. He didn't have any ammunition and there were police everywhere.

3: He's deranged.

4: Don't tell me you're suggesting what I think you are.

1: Yeah, but 20,000 is no drop in the bucket for someone with never a job.

2: Why did he not die - he's facing life in prison or execution why would it matter?

3: That is the sensible thing to do...if he was derranged he'dve let the cops die.

4: What? That he wasn't alone?

1. Family members could have been giving him money until he found a job or he racked up debt buying weapons.

2. The threat of execution or life in prison does not stop murderers.

3. Maybe he was so out of it he didn't realize what he had just done. Many criminals who carry out massacres commit suicide afterwards.

4. It is possible. The police said he was alone but it just happened yesterday.

[Xsyne]

I think the media said something about the perpetrator opening the emergency exit door and returning with his gear.

i was being sarcastic sorry i agree with you, its retarded

wtf is a gun-free zone?

An example of a person exercising their right to use their property as they see fit.

[North Calaveras]

i was being sarcastic sorry i agree with you, its retarded

wtf is a gun-free zone?

An example of a person exercising their right to use their property as they see fit.

is that even my full quote? anyways

regardless gun-free zones do NOT stop armed hostiles

[Xsyne]

An example of a person exercising their right to use their property as they see fit.

is that even my full quote? anyways

regardless gun-free zones do NOT stop armed hostiles

Take it up with the concept of private property then.

[North Calaveras]

is that even my full quote? anyways

regardless gun-free zones do NOT stop armed hostiles

Take it up with the concept of private property then.

I'm just saying....dosn't do shit...

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

Poor people.

[Chernoslavia]

I think the media said something about the perpetrator opening the emergency exit door and returning with his gear.

i was being sarcastic sorry i agree with you, its retarded

wtf is a gun-free zone? like that's going to stop someone ha

Something that doesnt work. But, he used a smoke bomb so even if you do have a gun you wont be able to see the perpetrator.

[North Calaveras]

i was being sarcastic sorry i agree with you, its retarded

wtf is a gun-free zone? like that's going to stop someone ha

Something that doesnt work. But, he used a smoke bomb so even if you do have a gun you wont be able to see the perpetrator.

The perpetrator also will have a hard time, just saying, unless hes just randomly shooting into the smoke