Should Evolution be taught in State Schools?

[Cruciland]

...Evolution already IS taught in state-run (or public, I assume) schools. While we already have it, the question we SHOULD keep it is still up in debate. To answer this, let me put it to you like this- we all know that evolution is scientifically accurate, but the MAIN controversy lies in MANKIND'S evolution. School is supposed to teach us FACTS, and we are still not sure if the evolution of man is factual, or why THE FUCK natural selection would remove our tails, deactivate our appendixes, and somehow make our brains swell to three times a monkey's size over 20 million years.

That said, I'd say evolution is fine to teach. Just keep mankind out of it.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Tentacles...

Nana, this is not the place to discuss your university days.

I'm not!

*reminisces*

[The United Nations of the Earth]

okay you have really thought about this one. true it isn't really a violation, except that some christians are really threatened by it.

Fixed, and too fucking bad for them that reality disagrees with them.

i say throw them both out, ONLY because it isn't intregal to what is being taught in biology classes.

Bullshit.

hey now stop throwing 'bullshit' around so much!

[Nightkill the Emperor]

Fixed, and too fucking bad for them that reality disagrees with them.

Bullshit.

hey now stop throwing 'bullshit' around so much!

Why don't you set an example then?

[Dyakovo]

Wrong. Evolution is proven fact, whereas creationism does not have a single shred of evidence to support it.

Who proved it?

Biologists.

Some links for you:
http://www.evolutionfaq.com/articles/fi ... -evolution
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_absolute ... _evolution
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/06/1 ... d-in-a-lab

[Immoren]

It's an observable phenomenon. Darwin, and many other scientists have.

darwin developed a theory didnt prove it

How many times it has to be repeated: SCIENTIFIC THEORIES CAN'T BE PROVEN, ONLY DISPROVEN!
And theory is a hypothesis ("theory" in common vernacular) that has been failed to disprove.

[Mavorpen]

...Evolution already IS taught in state-run (or public, I assume) schools. While we already have it, the question we SHOULD keep it is still up in debate. To answer this, let me put it to you like this- we all know that evolution is scientifically accurate, but the MAIN controversy lies in MANKIND'S evolution. School is supposed to teach us FACTS, and we are still not sure if the evolution of man is factual, or why THE FUCK natural selection would remove our tails, deactivate our appendixes, and somehow make our brains swell to three times a monkey's size over 20 million years.

That said, I'd say evolution is fine to teach. Just keep mankind out of it.

Source for any of this?

[Nightkill the Emperor]

...Evolution already IS taught in state-run (or public, I assume) schools. While we already have it, the question we SHOULD keep it is still up in debate. To answer this, let me put it to you like this- we all know that evolution is scientifically accurate, but the MAIN controversy lies in MANKIND'S evolution. School is supposed to teach us FACTS, and we are still not sure if the evolution of man is factual, or why THE FUCK natural selection would remove our tails, deactivate our appendixes, and somehow make our brains swell to three times a monkey's size over 20 million years.

That said, I'd say evolution is fine to teach. Just keep mankind out of it.

Source for any of this?

[The United Nations of the Earth]

hey now stop throwing 'bullshit' around so much!

Why don't you set an example then?

because, aside from quoting 'bullshit', i feel that i have been doing so.

[Leepaidamba]

okay you have really thought about this one. true it isn't really a violation, except that christians are really threatened by it. i say throw them both out, ONLY because it isn't intregal to what is being taught in biology classes. it might be a chapter in the book, but i am saying skip the chapter please! there are many more interesting things to talk about in biology class anyway!

Oh right, the unifying theory of all life sciences is not at all integral to the study of life, so lets skip over it. It's like you're skipping atomic theory whilst doing ask the rest of chemistry, and and physics because you might offend the hylomorphists present.

[Terruana]

...Evolution already IS taught in state-run (or public, I assume) schools. While we already have it, the question we SHOULD keep it is still up in debate. To answer this, let me put it to you like this- we all know that evolution is scientifically accurate, but the MAIN controversy lies in MANKIND'S evolution. School is supposed to teach us FACTS, and we are still not sure if the evolution of man is factual, or why THE FUCK natural selection would remove our tails, deactivate our appendixes, and somehow make our brains swell to three times a monkey's size over 20 million years.

That said, I'd say evolution is fine to teach. Just keep mankind out of it.

I actually covered human evolution pretty well in this post:
viewtopic.php?p=10117899#p10117899

[Terruana]

there are lots of proven facts* that are not taught in school and even if evolution were a proven fact, isn't a subject that is as important as basic math and english (or whatever language) in real life.

*i don't see how it is possible to prove that we are the product of evolution except through theories and googling around the internet or whatever since we can't create a planet and make life appear yet.

If you can't be arsed to google it, I summarised it on the first page of this thread...
viewtopic.php?p=10117899#p10117899

[Nightkill the Emperor]

...Evolution already IS taught in state-run (or public, I assume) schools. While we already have it, the question we SHOULD keep it is still up in debate. To answer this, let me put it to you like this- we all know that evolution is scientifically accurate, but the MAIN controversy lies in MANKIND'S evolution. School is supposed to teach us FACTS, and we are still not sure if the evolution of man is factual, or why THE FUCK natural selection would remove our tails, deactivate our appendixes, and somehow make our brains swell to three times a monkey's size over 20 million years.

That said, I'd say evolution is fine to teach. Just keep mankind out of it.

I actually covered human evolution pretty well in this post:
viewtopic.php?p=10117899#p10117899

Reality has a well known liberal bias, as a respected man said.

[Terruana]

Wrong. Evolution is proven fact, whereas creationism does not have a single shred of evidence to support it.

Who proved it?

viewtopic.php?p=10117899#p10117899

[Dyakovo]

there are lots of proven facts* that are not taught in school and even if evolution were a proven fact, isn't a subject that is as important as basic math and english (or whatever language) in real life.

*i don't see how it is possible to prove that we are the product of evolution except through theories and googling around the internet or whatever since we can't create a planet and make life appear yet.

Google is your friend.

[Mavorpen]

I actually covered human evolution pretty well in this post:
viewtopic.php?p=10117899#p10117899

Reality has a well known liberal bias, as a respected man said.

Ann Coulter? And yes, she was at one point a man. No way that thing is a woman.

[Turan Federasyonu]

After all I couldnt understand what is the problem all theories to be mentioned in the education?

[New England and The Maritimes]

After all I couldnt understand what is the problem all theories to be mentioned in the education?

There's only one theory. The rest is baseless speculation, and the realm of idiots and manipulative demagogues.

[The United Nations of the Earth]

there are lots of proven facts* that are not taught in school and even if evolution were a proven fact, isn't a subject that is as important as basic math and english (or whatever language) in real life.

*i don't see how it is possible to prove that we are the product of evolution except through theories and googling around the internet or whatever since we can't create a planet and make life appear yet.

Google is your friend.

indeed, google is my only friend.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

After all I couldnt understand what is the problem all theories to be mentioned in the education?

I want every single Hindu belief to be mentioned, please.

After that, cover every single Islamic sect.

Then go for Buddhism.

Try some Christianity.

Then cover Judaism.

Now let's go back to an in-depth study in your biology class about how the Greeks thought the heart was the organ man thought with.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

After all I couldnt understand what is the problem all theories to be mentioned in the education?

It isn't too hard to get.

One is related to science. The other is about a belief system. Religion should stay out of the public school system.

As I said, schools educate, they aren't obligated to have children believe in any, let alone whether a deity farted and out of it's craphole the universe came.

[The United Nations of the Earth]

okay you have really thought about this one. true it isn't really a violation, except that christians are really threatened by it. i say throw them both out, ONLY because it isn't intregal to what is being taught in biology classes. it might be a chapter in the book, but i am saying skip the chapter please! there are many more interesting things to talk about in biology class anyway!

Oh right, the unifying theory of all life sciences is not at all integral to the study of life, so lets skip over it. It's like you're skipping atomic theory whilst doing ask the rest of chemistry, and and physics because you might offend the hylomorphists present.

i am not 100% sure what you just said, but i did pick up on what sounded like sarcasm. thanks!

[Avenio]

After all I couldnt understand what is the problem all theories to be mentioned in the education?

Because if you spend valuable time teaching anything other than the scientifically-accepted truth, you're willfully sabotaging the ability of students to go to university and/or get jobs in the STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics) fields.

[Dyakovo]

...Evolution already IS taught in state-run (or public, I assume) schools. While we already have it, the question we SHOULD keep it is still up in debate. To answer this, let me put it to you like this- we all know that evolution is scientifically accurate, but the MAIN controversy lies in MANKIND'S evolution. School is supposed to teach us FACTS, and we are still not sure if the evolution of man is factual,¹ or why THE FUCK natural selection² would remove our tails, deactivate our appendixes, and somehow make our brains swell to three times a monkey's size over 20 million years.³

1: Yes, we are. I suggest you educate yourself.
2: Natural Selection is a conscious entity...
3: Try several million years, not 20000.

That said, I'd say evolution is fine to teach. Just keep mankind out of it.

The suggestion started out good... And then it apparently suffered severe brain trauma...

[Turan Federasyonu]

After all I couldnt understand what is the problem all theories to be mentioned in the education?

There's only one theory. The rest is baseless speculation, and the realm of idiots and manipulative demagogues.

If it is so the students will reach to this conclusion alone