Should Evolution be taught in State Schools?

[Jakeland]

Of course! Even more in Christian schools! See, Evolution (I'm an Atheist btw) does not contradict God. It may take the concept of God outside the concept of the Bible, but the idea that a God can create and start the evolutionary process should be sound Christians as plausible and acceptable. I, myself, reject the concept of God, but I don't see how Christians, Muslims and Jews should have a problem with the idea of Evolution. It only corresponds with the notion, for them, that God is great and all-mighty.

[Dyakovo]

No really. Prove that condoms have a ZERO PERCENT success rate.

Condoms are meant to be worn. They give no protection when not worn.
And you aren't supposed to wear them with your spouse.

You actually think that's proof of your claim?

[Seperates]

Of course! Even more in Christian schools! See, Evolution (I'm an Atheist btw) does not contradict God. It may take the concept of God outside the concept of the Bible, but the idea that a God can create and start the evolutionary process should be sound Christians as plausible and acceptable. I, myself, reject the concept of God, but I don't see how Christians, Muslims and Jews should have a problem with the idea of Evolution. It only corresponds with the notion, for them, that God is great and all-mighty.

See, here's the problem with that assessment. It isn't scientific. It assumes that humans are the evolutionary "end-game" in "God's creation", what with the Abrahamic religions human-centered dogma. There is no reason to assume this. There is no reason to assume that God made this world specifically to evolve us. Perhaps we are not the endgame in his creation. Perhaps cockroaches are the endgame and everything else is merely byproducts. Evolution is not compatible with Abrahamic religious dogma, which is why it is opposed so vehmently. Sure, we can pretend it is compatible for the sake of apologetics, but that does not change the facts of the matter.

[Dyakovo]

[citation needed]

Condoms are effective at preventing HIV, apart from in the extremely rare case that they split.

Atleast that's what I remember about Sex Ed

Then you should take it again, since you apparently remember nothing...

[Cu Math]

Of course! Even more in Christian schools! See, Evolution (I'm an Atheist btw) does not contradict God. It may take the concept of God outside the concept of the Bible, but the idea that a God can create and start the evolutionary process should be sound Christians as plausible and acceptable. I, myself, reject the concept of God, but I don't see how Christians, Muslims and Jews should have a problem with the idea of Evolution. It only corresponds with the notion, for them, that God is great and all-mighty.

See, here's the problem with that assessment. It isn't scientific. It assumes that humans are the evolutionary "end-game" in "God's creation", what with the Abrahamic religions human-centered dogma. There is no reason to assume this. There is no reason to assume that God made this world specifically to evolve us. Perhaps we are not the endgame in his creation. Perhaps cockroaches are the endgame and everything else is merely byproducts. Evolution is not compatible with Abrahamic religious dogma, which is why it is opposed so vehmently. Sure, we can pretend it is compatible for the sake of apologetics, but that does not change the facts of the matter.

We humans are the best creatures! We're the only ones who have evolved the ability to kill thousands over who has the cooler imaginary friend!

[Big Jim P]

Condoms are meant to be worn. They give no protection when not worn.
And you aren't supposed to wear them with your spouse.

You actually think that's proof of your claim?

It's about average for theistic bullshit.

[Athorack]

I don't want this thread ruined with religous debating, take that somewhere else!

This is a question of morale, should Evolution be taught in schools?

First of all, Evolution is a religous belief, just the same as Creation is. The major difference is that Evolution is supposidly not the belief of a religion, but of the irreligous. However, even that is wrong, is it not the Atheist belief? Are Atheist truly irreligous? They have a theology and beliefs, therefore that must make Atheisim a religion.

Anyway, the topic is should Evolution be taught in Public /State (Government Owned) Schools. I also encourage your thoughts on Atheisims status, is it a religion?

Evolution is not a religious belief, it is a scientific theory. Of course it should be taught in school. Creation is a religious belief and should be taught in church.

Yup I agree, with Big Jim P

[Norstal]

We humans are the best creatures! We're the only ones who have evolved the ability to kill thousands over who has the cooler imaginary friend!

My god is cuter than your god.

Clearly, the universe was created by her.

[Seperates]

Abstinence, in theory, has 100% effetiveness. Unfortunatly, in practice... it doesn't because we are humans and humans are fallible and make mistakes.

Then STD are part of the penalty for these mistakes.

Real reminder when it happens to babies.

In the 10th Plague of Egypt, Lord killed every first born Egyptian child.

An occasional child of sinners is nothing in comparison, and, yes, it is a real reminder.

Anyway, can this thread get back to why teaching of evolution should be eliminated from state schools?

Unprotected sex is not worthy of life long punishment... and only a megalomaniac dictator would say it was.

Yes, and there is no record of the Plagues ever happening outside of stories, forklore, and legend. Shall we also assume that the Cyclops in the Odyssey was real, and that Troy was really burnt to the ground by men in a giant wooden horse? Or should we look on them as allegory and myth, tales of heroics and exaggerations of deeds once done?

Please, quote my full posts and quit cherry picking. You are making yourself look foolish.

[Seperates]

See, here's the problem with that assessment. It isn't scientific. It assumes that humans are the evolutionary "end-game" in "God's creation", what with the Abrahamic religions human-centered dogma. There is no reason to assume this. There is no reason to assume that God made this world specifically to evolve us. Perhaps we are not the endgame in his creation. Perhaps cockroaches are the endgame and everything else is merely byproducts. Evolution is not compatible with Abrahamic religious dogma, which is why it is opposed so vehmently. Sure, we can pretend it is compatible for the sake of apologetics, but that does not change the facts of the matter.

We humans are the best creatures! We're the only ones who have evolved the ability to kill thousands over who has the cooler imaginary friend!

I mean really, why wouldn't God love cockroachs? He's kept them around for so long.

[Seperates]

You actually think that's proof of your claim?

It's about average for theistic bullshit.

If you mean above average in stupidity, I'd say you were right on the money.

[Big Jim P]

We humans are the best creatures! We're the only ones who have evolved the ability to kill thousands over who has the cooler imaginary friend!

My god is cuter than your god.

Clearly, the universe was created by her.

I'll give you the cute, but the creator? As good a story as any I suppose.

[Big Jim P]

It's about average for theistic bullshit.

If you mean above average in stupidity, I'd say you were right on the money.

Isn't that what I said?

[Seperates]

If you mean above average in stupidity, I'd say you were right on the money.

Isn't that what I said?

Sorry, I've heard that expression for the high-end theological bullshit of the Aquinus variety as well, as in above-average intelligence. My mistake.

[Big Jim P]

Isn't that what I said?

Sorry, I've heard that expression for the high-end theological bullshit of the Aquinus variety as well, as in above-average intelligence. My mistake.

Above average, not about average as I posted. Still above average intelligence bullshit, is still bullshit.

[Seperates]

Sorry, I've heard that expression for the high-end theological bullshit of the Aquinus variety as well, as in above-average intelligence. My mistake.

Above average, not about average as I posted. Still above average intelligence bullshit, is still bullshit.

(for myself) Wow... it's gonna be one of THOSE nights isn't it. And yes... no matter how much you water down the shit... that doesn't change the fact that it is stil shit.

[Person012345]

We humans are the best creatures! We're the only ones who have evolved the ability to kill thousands over who has the cooler imaginary friend!

My god is cuter than your god.

Clearly, the universe was created by her.

Heathen!

[Cu Math]

My god is cuter than your god.

Clearly, the universe was created by her.

Heathen!

Shut up, you are both wrong, its:

[Divair]

Abstinence, in theory, has 100% effetiveness. Unfortunatly, in practice... it doesn't because we are humans and humans are fallible and make mistakes.

Then STD are part of the penalty for these mistakes.

Real reminder when it happens to babies.

In the 10th Plague of Egypt, Lord killed every first born Egyptian child.

An occasional child of sinners is nothing in comparison, and, yes, it is a real reminder.

Anyway, can this thread get back to why teaching of evolution should be eliminated from state schools?

This just gets funnier and funnier.

[Genivaria]

Heathen!

Shut up, you are both wrong, its:

.....France?

[Mavorpen]

While I wouldn't go so far as to say cats are gods, they are our overlords.

[Vault 1]

Unprotected sex is not worthy of life long punishment... and only a megalomaniac dictator would say it was.

... And what was your impression of the main character's personality and style of governance after reading through the Bible, assuming that you have?

[Divair]

Shut up, you are both wrong, its:

.....France?

Surprise.

[Keronians]

Of course! Even more in Christian schools! See, Evolution (I'm an Atheist btw) does not contradict God. It may take the concept of God outside the concept of the Bible, but the idea that a God can create and start the evolutionary process should be sound Christians as plausible and acceptable. I, myself, reject the concept of God, but I don't see how Christians, Muslims and Jews should have a problem with the idea of Evolution. It only corresponds with the notion, for them, that God is great and all-mighty.

See, here's the problem with that assessment. It isn't scientific. It assumes that humans are the evolutionary "end-game" in "God's creation", what with the Abrahamic religions human-centered dogma. There is no reason to assume this. There is no reason to assume that God made this world specifically to evolve us. Perhaps we are not the endgame in his creation. Perhaps cockroaches are the endgame and everything else is merely byproducts. Evolution is not compatible with Abrahamic religious dogma, which is why it is opposed so vehmently. Sure, we can pretend it is compatible for the sake of apologetics, but that does not change the facts of the matter.

You know, you can always rely on the assumption that God wanted humans to become the dominant species on the planet.

[Cu Math]

See, here's the problem with that assessment. It isn't scientific. It assumes that humans are the evolutionary "end-game" in "God's creation", what with the Abrahamic religions human-centered dogma. There is no reason to assume this. There is no reason to assume that God made this world specifically to evolve us. Perhaps we are not the endgame in his creation. Perhaps cockroaches are the endgame and everything else is merely byproducts. Evolution is not compatible with Abrahamic religious dogma, which is why it is opposed so vehmently. Sure, we can pretend it is compatible for the sake of apologetics, but that does not change the facts of the matter.

You know, you can always rely on the assumption that God wanted humans to become the dominant species on the planet.

Can you prove that?