Should Evolution be taught in State Schools?

[Person012345]

No really. Prove that condoms have a ZERO PERCENT success rate.

Condoms are meant to be worn. They give no protection when not worn.
And you aren't supposed to wear them with your spouse.

If she has HIV... Yeah, you kinda are.

[Lialoth]

Condoms are meant to be worn. They give no protection when not worn.
And you aren't supposed to wear them with your spouse.

Really? Who orders this one? Do condoms just like... not work within a marriage?

[Big Jim P]

No really. Prove that condoms have a ZERO PERCENT success rate.

Condoms are meant to be worn. They give no protection when not worn.
And you aren't supposed to wear them with your spouse.

Who are you to decide what I wear, or not wear with my spouse?

[Runfin]

Condoms are meant to be worn. They give no protection when not worn.
And you aren't supposed to wear them with your spouse.

If she has HIV... Yeah, you kinda are.

If she has HIV, condoms aren't gonna do a damn thing, HIV can be transmitted with or without condoms. Now if she has any other STD it works fine,

[Person012345]

If she has HIV... Yeah, you kinda are.

If she has HIV, condoms aren't gonna do a damn thing, HIV can be transmitted with or without condoms.

[citation needed]

Condoms are effective at preventing HIV, apart from in the extremely rare case that they split.

[Desperate Measures]

No really. Prove that condoms have a ZERO PERCENT success rate.

Condoms are meant to be worn. They give no protection when not worn.
And you aren't supposed to wear them with your spouse.

Yes you are if you don't want to have a kid. What shit is this?

[Desperate Measures]

If she has HIV, condoms aren't gonna do a damn thing, HIV can be transmitted with or without condoms.

[citation needed]

Condoms are effective at preventing HIV, apart from in the extremely rare case that they split.

Or if you don't wear them apparently. Which I wasn't quite clear on. I thought they just had to be in the general vicinity of where I thought an STD or a pregnancy may happen.

[Person012345]

[citation needed]

Condoms are effective at preventing HIV, apart from in the extremely rare case that they split.

Or if you don't wear them apparently. Which I wasn't quite clear on. I thought they just had to be in the general vicinity of where I thought an STD or a pregnancy may happen.

Well, the fact that if you don't wear a condom it won't protect you clearly shows that condoms are worthless because god hates them.

[Vault 1]

Not at all. If one were to create a virus to remind humanity of it's "sins" one would imagine a disease that would kill on thought. Since, according to Jesus, thinking is as bad as doing.

That wouldn't work at all. How would you know what the dead person was thinking?

It's a reminder for the society as a whole, the real punishment comes later.

If she has HIV... Yeah, you kinda are.

If she never had sex before marrigage and hasn't done drugs, her chances of having HIV are incredibly small.
The rarity itself of such an event begs to suggest that, if it did happen, such was His will.

[Person012345]

If she has HIV... Yeah, you kinda are.

If she never had sex before marrigage and hasn't done drugs, her chances of having HIV are incredibly small.
The rarity itself of such an event begs to suggest that, if it did happen, such was His will.

In such a case, then a not-worn condom would also have a success rate of 100%.

[Runfin]

If she has HIV, condoms aren't gonna do a damn thing, HIV can be transmitted with or without condoms.

[citation needed]

Condoms are effective at preventing HIV, apart from in the extremely rare case that they split.

Atleast that's what I remember about Sex Ed

[Person012345]

[citation needed]

Condoms are effective at preventing HIV, apart from in the extremely rare case that they split.

Atleast that's what I remember about Sex Ed

You were taught incorrectly.

According to a 2000 report by the National Institutes of Health (NIH), correct and consistent use of latex condoms reduces the risk of HIV/AIDS transmission by approximately 85% relative to risk when unprotected, putting the seroconversion rate (infection rate) at 0.9 per 100 person-years with condom, down from 6.7 per 100 person-years.[52] Analysis published in 2007 from the University of Texas Medical Branch [53] and the World Health Organization[54] found similar risk reductions of 80–95%.

Condoms are a solid barrier that physically prevents the virus from getting through (unlike the pill and other methods of birth control).

[Runfin]

Atleast that's what I remember about Sex Ed

You were taught incorrectly.

I hated that Doctor

[Vault 1]

Yes you are if you don't want to have a kid. What shit is this?

You aren't supposed to just plain decide "you don't want to have a kid". Children are essential for mankind's survival. It's not your decision to make, if you weren't meant to have children, you'll just be infertile.

This was the sin of Onan. Unlike the later church interpretation of it as masturbation, the key sin there was that Onan, being married, spilled his seed on the ground so as to avoid a pregnancy. As traditional in times BC, he was, of course, punished by death.

[Runfin]

Yes you are if you don't want to have a kid. What shit is this?

You aren't supposed to just plain decide "you don't want to have a kid". Children are essential for mankind's survival. It's not your decision to make, if you weren't meant to have children, you'll just be infertile.

This was the sin of Onan. Unlike the later church interpretation of it as masturbation, the key sin there was that Onan, being married, spilled his seed on the ground so as to avoid a pregnancy. As traditional in times BC, he was, of course, punished by death.

There are 7 billion people in the world, it if you don't have a baby, it won't make that big of a Fucking dip in the population

[Seperates]

Do you know the traditional Christian belief on how to cure STDs and AIDS in particular?

I'm pretty sure it doesn't include raping young girls to transfer it to them.

Any society that considers such ways acceptable - that would consider them even if it actually worked - deserves to be hit a lot worse than it already is.

There are none, because the Christian faith doesn't deal with the prevention of diseases rather than a few archaic rituals in the OT. And yet... they still advocate abstinence rather than protection and education,

Abstinence has 100% effectiveness.
Protection has pretty much 0% - you are going to go unprotected with your spouse anyway, and you have no business having intercourse with anyone other than your spouse.

Does anybody advocate that method as prevention, or are you just fishing for an emotional outburst?

Abstinence, in theory, has 100% effetiveness. Unfortunatly, in practice... it doesn't because we are humans and humans are fallible and make mistakes. We CANNOT expect perfection. Doing such is absolutly insane, impractical, and stupid.

[Seperates]

Not at all. If one were to create a virus to remind humanity of it's "sins" one would imagine a disease that would kill on thought. Since, according to Jesus, thinking is as bad as doing.

That wouldn't work at all. How would you know what the dead person was thinking?

It's a reminder for the society as a whole, the real punishment comes later.

Real reminder when it happens to babies. Yeah, go back to school and learn some theology.

[Seperates]

If she has HIV... Yeah, you kinda are.

If she has HIV, condoms aren't gonna do a damn thing, HIV can be transmitted with or without condoms. Now if she has any other STD it works fine,

Mm... no. It's called female condoms...

[Person012345]

Illuminati was the Atheist that united all sides against him, I feel we may have the theistic example in Vault 1. At least I hope most religious people have the decency and intelligence not to agree with him.

[Vault 1]

Abstinence, in theory, has 100% effetiveness. Unfortunatly, in practice... it doesn't because we are humans and humans are fallible and make mistakes.

Then STD are part of the penalty for these mistakes.

Real reminder when it happens to babies.

In the 10th Plague of Egypt, Lord killed every first born Egyptian child.

An occasional child of sinners is nothing in comparison, and, yes, it is a real reminder.

Anyway, can this thread get back to why teaching of evolution should be eliminated from state schools?

[Person012345]

Of course, Vault 1 may not be a theist, but you get what I mean.

[Farnhamia]

Abstinence, in theory, has 100% effetiveness. Unfortunatly, in practice... it doesn't because we are humans and humans are fallible and make mistakes.

Then STD are part of the penalty for these mistakes.

Real reminder when it happens to babies.

In the 10th Plague of Egypt, Lord killed every first born Egyptian child.

An occasional child of sinners is nothing in comparison, and, yes, it is a real reminder.

Anyway, can this thread get back to why teaching of evolution should be eliminated from state schools?

Sure, knock yourself out. I could use a good laugh.

[Desperate Measures]

Yes you are if you don't want to have a kid. What shit is this?

You aren't supposed to just plain decide "you don't want to have a kid". Children are essential for mankind's survival. It's not your decision to make, if you weren't meant to have children, you'll just be infertile.

This was the sin of Onan. Unlike the later church interpretation of it as masturbation, the key sin there was that Onan, being married, spilled his seed on the ground so as to avoid a pregnancy. As traditional in times BC, he was, of course, punished by death.

Yes, I am supposed to. I have this weird thing that I like to be able to afford the stuff I have. I have one kid. I can afford her. I wouldn't be able to afford more. I guess you would prefer I be a burden on society?

I don't share your beliefs and this bullshit of trying to force your beliefs on others by slapping on the tag of science and pushing religion into what is supposed to be the secular institution of a public education is dangerous to everyone and shows you to be either a manipulative liar or a troll or severely disillusioned. You are the reason people have come to distance themselves from religion (thanks, by the way) and I truly hope you are a very clever puppet that realizes this.

[ReVaQ]

Reading through the first 10 pages is hell alot of fun!

[EDIT:] And I ain't even mad!

[Dyakovo]

AI LEARNED WHALES WERE LIKE DOGS!

In what way -- other than whales are aquatic mammals (breathe air, females nurse their calves with milk) and dogs are terrestrial mammals (breathe air, females nurse their pups with milk) and that the whale flippers have rather hand-like skeletons within them? that they were also social and tend to move in pods (equivalent to packs)?

More info on whale evolution....

Just can't stop being a teacher, can you?