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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:29 pm

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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:29 pm

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On a serious more, we can't even afford field trips. It's fucking pathetic.

As an outsider to the Western education system, field trips aren't really a sign of that. My Catholic school in India never went on field trips but it was a rich school. They focused more on maths and sciences.


It's not so much that we can't afford it, but we choose not to. We instead choose to give money to sports instead of going to places actually relevant to our education.
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Postby Turan Federasyonu » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:29 pm

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Turan Federasyonu wrote:After all I couldnt understand what is the problem all theories to be mentioned in the education?


There is only one theory.

There's no point pretending there's a controversy in the science - there isn't.

And there's no point pretending that religion is science, just so you can teach it in science class. It's not.


And that's the important one. Science class should be dedicated to teaching science. Not religion.

Once more: When did I tell that creationism should be taught in science class?

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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:30 pm

The United Nations of the Earth wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Stop making bullshit claims, and I'll stop calling your claims bullshit.

which claim have i made that is bullshit? (A, B or C)

A: that...
evolution: people trying to prove that they are intellectually superior.
creationism: people trying to avoid hell.

B: that...
public school shouldn't teach either one because
1.) neither matter in life.
2.) both cause too much controversy.
3.) people can educate themselves or be educated outside of public schools.

C: that you throw the word 'bullshit' around a lot.

A, B1&2
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:30 pm

Turan Federasyonu wrote:
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No shit.

as I understand you are still a student at school. Havent you been taught at home that when you speak with people that you dont know (especially older) you are expected to behave politely or at least not vulgarly?

The tangent doesn't work.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:30 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:As an outsider to the Western education system, field trips aren't really a sign of that. My Catholic school in India never went on field trips but it was a rich school. They focused more on maths and sciences.


It's not so much that we can't afford it, but we choose not to. We instead choose to give money to sports instead of going to places actually relevant to our education.

Now there's an issue.
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Postby Vecherd » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:30 pm

Except the fact that I dont believe state schools should exist, yes I think it should be taught in schools. Why? Because it makes so much more sense than that an immortal nazi-clown created everything.
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Postby Absurd Ramblings » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:31 pm

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Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Popular opinion states a monkey on cocaine as well injected with the blood of Fred Phelps put on a keyboard.


That's MY line.

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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:32 pm

Vecherd wrote:Because it makes so much more sense than that an immortal nazi-clown created everything.

Stop supporting my side, please.
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Postby No Water No Moon » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:33 pm

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There is only one theory.

There's no point pretending there's a controversy in the science - there isn't.

And there's no point pretending that religion is science, just so you can teach it in science class. It's not.


And that's the important one. Science class should be dedicated to teaching science. Not religion.

Once more: When did I tell that creationism should be taught in science class?


You said: "... what is the problem all theories to be mentioned in the education?".

There's only one theory.
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Postby Vecherd » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:33 pm

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Vecherd wrote:Because it makes so much more sense than that an immortal nazi-clown created everything.

Stop supporting my side, please.


Im sorry I am just annoyed, however its funny to see you being so intolerant. But you should stop it.
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Postby Vault 1 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:33 pm

Mavorpen wrote:It's not so much that we can't afford it, but we choose not to. We instead choose to give money to sports instead of going to places actually relevant to our education.

Face it. Most of America disagrees with you. Resistance is futile. You have been brainwashed by the round earth conspiracy. Reject science and the worries that come with it. Join the masses on their path to spiritual enlightenment and help bring idiocracy to the world.

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Postby Immoren » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:34 pm

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Nightkill the Emperor wrote:I want every single Hindu belief to be mentioned, please.

After that, cover every single Islamic sect.

Then go for Buddhism.

Try some Christianity.

Then cover Judaism.

Now let's go back to an in-depth study in your biology class about how the Greeks thought the heart was the organ man thought with.


And Caananite practices. Egyptian mythology. Native American traditions. Native African beliefs. Shintoism, Taoism, Voodoun, Norse mythology, Greek pantheon, Roman pantheon, Fascism, Nazi Religion, Roman Sol Invictus cult, ancient babylonian practices, occultism. Oh yes.

You left out Fenno-Ugrian creation myths! D:<
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:34 pm

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The United Nations of the Earth wrote:um i took biology a loooong time ago in high school and 1.) what i learned has not been much use to me 2.) i don't recall that much talk about evolution at all only in regard to our origin which is not a topic that should be taught in public schools because it is tarnished by religion AND not important in life except for, like i said, you are seeking to label yourself as intellectually superior or you are trying to basically avoid hell.


How is evolution through natural selection, a theory accepted by all atheists, most agnostics and a large proportion of Christians tarnished by religion?

Also, purposefully withholding information from children would be called 'censorship'.


Atheists, agnostics, and Christians have no measure into the validity of the theory.

Religious based abiogenesis has no place in the science class room.

Even the aforementioned atheists and agnostics have no problem with religious based abiogenesis being taught in the religious classroom.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:34 pm

Vecherd wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Stop supporting my side, please.


Im sorry I am just annoyed, however its funny to see you being so intolerant. But you should stop it.

I genuinely did not just understand that.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:35 pm

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Mavorpen wrote:It's not so much that we can't afford it, but we choose not to. We instead choose to give money to sports instead of going to places actually relevant to our education.

Face it. Most of America disagrees with you. Resistance is futile. You have been brainwashed by the round earth conspiracy. Reject science and the worries that come with it. Join the masses on their path to spiritual enlightenment and help bring idiocracy to the world.


Are you calling yourself an idiot?
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:35 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Vault 1 wrote:Face it. Most of America disagrees with you. Resistance is futile. You have been brainwashed by the round earth conspiracy. Reject science and the worries that come with it. Join the masses on their path to spiritual enlightenment and help bring idiocracy to the world.


Are you calling yourself an idiot?

Admitting you have a problem is the first step.
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Postby Turan Federasyonu » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:36 pm

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Turan Federasyonu wrote:Once more: When did I tell that creationism should be taught in science class?


You said: "... what is the problem all theories to be mentioned in the education?".

There's only one theory.

I suppose that in all countries in the world (in the USA too) not only biology is taught in school

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No Water No Moon wrote:
You said: "... what is the problem all theories to be mentioned in the education?".

There's only one theory.

I suppose that in all countries in the world (in the USA too) not only biology is taught in school

That's usually the standard procedure, yes.
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Mavorpen wrote:
Vault 1 wrote:Face it. Most of America disagrees with you. Resistance is futile. You have been brainwashed by the round earth conspiracy. Reject science and the worries that come with it. Join the masses on their path to spiritual enlightenment and help bring idiocracy to the world.


Are you calling yourself an idiot?


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Postby Vecherd » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:37 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Vecherd wrote:
Im sorry I am just annoyed, however its funny to see you being so intolerant. But you should stop it.

I genuinely did not just understand that.


First, this fundamentalist Christian talks about how evolution should not be taught as a theory, annoying, I feel like posting my opinion but at the same time I am somewhat annoyed someone still thinks like that. Then you come and thinks I make you look bad, what the hell is that?
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Dyakovo wrote:Stop making bullshit claims, and I'll stop calling your claims bullshit.

which claim have i made that is bullshit? (A, B or C)

A: that...
evolution: people trying to prove that they are intellectually superior.
creationism: people trying to avoid hell.

B: that...
public school shouldn't teach either one because
1.) neither matter in life.
2.) both cause too much controversy.
3.) people can educate themselves or be educated outside of public schools.

C: that you throw the word 'bullshit' around a lot.

1. it matter a great deal in life, from diseases, to behavior, to why you should not use antibiotics when you don't need them.
2. is not a good reason to avoid a subject, freeing slaves, giving women the right to vote, and why gay people should not be killed were all controversial.
3. which implies schools should be nothing but day care centers and not actually educate people. It is a school it exists to EDUCATE.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:38 pm

Turan Federasyonu wrote:
No Water No Moon wrote:
You said: "... what is the problem all theories to be mentioned in the education?".

There's only one theory.

I suppose that in all countries in the world (in the USA too) not only biology is taught in school

No Water No Moon wrote:There's only one theory.
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Postby Absurd Ramblings » Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:38 pm

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That's MY line.

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