by ATTENTION DUELISTS » Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:41 am
by Unilisia » Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:52 am
Tiami wrote:I bow before the mighty Uni.
Lackadaisical2 wrote:If it shocked Uni, I know I don't want to read it.
You win.
Kylarnatia wrote:Steep hill + wheelchair + my lap - I think we know where that goes ;)
Katganistan wrote:That is fucking stupid.
L Ron Cupboard wrote:He appears to be propelling himself out of the flames with explosive diarrhea while his mother does jazz hands.
Mike the Progressive wrote:Because women are gods, men are pigs, and we, the males, deserve to all be castrated.
Neo Arcad wrote:Uni doesn't sleep. She waits.
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:Collector: "Why are these coins all sticky?"
by Sedikal » Thu Jul 12, 2012 1:59 am
Unilisia wrote:Anyone given a life sentence should just be killed, since they're obviously not going back to society anytime soon and are wasting taxpayer money. Then the extra money saved from all those prisoners can be used to reform the prison system so it actually functions and rehabilitates.
by Risottia » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:02 am
Unilisia wrote:Anyone given a life sentence should just be killed, since they're obviously not going back to society anytime soon
and are wasting taxpayer money.
by Penguinmark » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:02 am
by Tubbsalot » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:03 am
Unilisia wrote:Anyone given a life sentence should just be killed, since they're obviously not going back to society anytime soon and are wasting taxpayer money. Then the extra money saved from all those prisoners can be used to reform the prison system so it actually functions and rehabilitates.
by The Mesozoic Era » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:12 am
by Extistia » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:15 am
by Ethel mermania » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:18 am
Tubbsalot wrote:Unilisia wrote:Anyone given a life sentence should just be killed, since they're obviously not going back to society anytime soon and are wasting taxpayer money. Then the extra money saved from all those prisoners can be used to reform the prison system so it actually functions and rehabilitates.
Yeah good luck with that, seeing as death is enormously more expensive than life in prison. I'm sure all those savings you make will be very useful.
by Tubbsalot » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:20 am
Ethel mermania wrote:It is only more expensive because we make it that way. Change the ptocess, it could be a lot cheaper.
Ethel mermania wrote:I support the death penalty, but am amazed at how many times we get it wrong. The death penalty is not about deterence, it is about societies abhorance at the crime committed.
by The United Celtic States » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:22 am
by Ethel mermania » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:28 am
Tubbsalot wrote:Ethel mermania wrote:It is only more expensive because we make it that way. Change the ptocess, it could be a lot cheaper.
It would also kill far more innocent people, which would be unacceptable regardless and is particularly bad considering how frequently they're killed already by death penalty.Ethel mermania wrote:I support the death penalty, but am amazed at how many times we get it wrong. The death penalty is not about deterence, it is about societies abhorance at the crime committed.
So revenge then, basically.
How about we just express our disappointment in a more civilised way? Maybe cut off their hands or something? Let's not become monsters, I mean really.
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by Falsea » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:29 am
by R Ev0lution » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:29 am
Ethel mermania wrote:Tubbsalot wrote:It would also kill far more innocent people, which would be unacceptable regardless and is particularly bad considering how frequently they're killed already by death penalty.
So revenge then, basically.
How about we just express our disappointment in a more civilised way? Maybe cut off their hands or something? Let's not become monsters, I mean really.
Their behaviour went beyond the pale, rehabbing either one of them says the behaviour can be gotten away with. Society has the obligation to say "no, its just too much", and I am fine with that.
by Safed » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:31 am
by R Ev0lution » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:34 am
Safed wrote:I disagree with the death penalty simply because the judicial system is not infallible. As such people are executed who have since been shown to be innocent. If they were imprisoned for life then they can be let free. Obviously they've spent maybe 20 years in prison which isn't a good thing, but it is better than telling their corpse you made a mistake.
by Unilisia » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:35 am
Risottia wrote:Unilisia wrote:Anyone given a life sentence should just be killed, since they're obviously not going back to society anytime soon
Same for people sentenced to 20 years I guess. Define "soon", lil' weasel...and are wasting taxpayer money.
Dunno about the nanny-state you live in, but here inmates work and must pay for the food if they or their families have money/properties.
Tiami wrote:I bow before the mighty Uni.
Lackadaisical2 wrote:If it shocked Uni, I know I don't want to read it.
You win.
Kylarnatia wrote:Steep hill + wheelchair + my lap - I think we know where that goes ;)
Katganistan wrote:That is fucking stupid.
L Ron Cupboard wrote:He appears to be propelling himself out of the flames with explosive diarrhea while his mother does jazz hands.
Mike the Progressive wrote:Because women are gods, men are pigs, and we, the males, deserve to all be castrated.
Neo Arcad wrote:Uni doesn't sleep. She waits.
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:Collector: "Why are these coins all sticky?"
by Ethel mermania » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:36 am
by R Ev0lution » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:39 am
by Unilisia » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:43 am
R Ev0lution wrote:Ethel mermania wrote:
Where life is apprpriate, sure. For example, I think its more appropiate punishment for kacynski (sp) (unibomber). I think for mason and madoff, death is the right choice.
But what about people who've been sentenced to death who have since been shown to be innocent? Troy Davis comes to mind.
Safed phrased it perfectly: If new evidence surfaces that a man serving life in prison is innocent, he has a shot at appealing and getting out of prison. If new evidence surfaces that a man who's been executed was innocent, our entire society has the blood of an innocent citizen on its hands.
Tiami wrote:I bow before the mighty Uni.
Lackadaisical2 wrote:If it shocked Uni, I know I don't want to read it.
You win.
Kylarnatia wrote:Steep hill + wheelchair + my lap - I think we know where that goes ;)
Katganistan wrote:That is fucking stupid.
L Ron Cupboard wrote:He appears to be propelling himself out of the flames with explosive diarrhea while his mother does jazz hands.
Mike the Progressive wrote:Because women are gods, men are pigs, and we, the males, deserve to all be castrated.
Neo Arcad wrote:Uni doesn't sleep. She waits.
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:Collector: "Why are these coins all sticky?"
by Meridiani Planum » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:45 am
by Tubbsalot » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:45 am
Unilisia wrote:R Ev0lution wrote:But what about people who've been sentenced to death who have since been shown to be innocent? Troy Davis comes to mind.
Safed phrased it perfectly: If new evidence surfaces that a man serving life in prison is innocent, he has a shot at appealing and getting out of prison. If new evidence surfaces that a man who's been executed was innocent, our entire society has the blood of an innocent citizen on its hands.
Pretty much every human society has committed atrocities far worse than the death of one man. It's only a big deal if you make it a big deal.
by Unilisia » Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:46 am
Tubbsalot wrote:Unilisia wrote:Pretty much every human society has committed atrocities far worse than the death of one man. It's only a big deal if you make it a big deal.
Pretty much every human society has seen far worse atrocities than murder, too, which is why it would be perfectly acceptable if you were murdered. It's only a big deal if you make it one.
Tiami wrote:I bow before the mighty Uni.
Lackadaisical2 wrote:If it shocked Uni, I know I don't want to read it.
You win.
Kylarnatia wrote:Steep hill + wheelchair + my lap - I think we know where that goes ;)
Katganistan wrote:That is fucking stupid.
L Ron Cupboard wrote:He appears to be propelling himself out of the flames with explosive diarrhea while his mother does jazz hands.
Mike the Progressive wrote:Because women are gods, men are pigs, and we, the males, deserve to all be castrated.
Neo Arcad wrote:Uni doesn't sleep. She waits.
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:Collector: "Why are these coins all sticky?"
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