Do You Think Full Communism would Work in Real Life

[Mandicoria]

If you think humanity can basicly have a "Hive Mind" it will work, otherwise No

[Aioros Telcontar]

Communism is a nice system, but it is unfeasable. Also, its high corruptibility is a great disadvantage.

[The USOT]

Because that would suck?

Yeah well a lot of the planet sucks, what else is new?

...im really not sure what you are going for here... how does this line of conversation relate to the thread?

[Jamie Anumia]

Let me clarify then, I took full communism to mean the original marxist theory and answered the question as asking if that theory would ever work in practice. I answered No, because countries have claimed to be 'communist' (China, North Korea etc), yet really don't stay true to marxist communist ideals.

You still didn't give any explanation of why you think this.

Why do I think this? I think this because of precedence in regards to communism for a start in addition to the fact that I believe that the economic (and to extent social policies), that while admirable in theory would not work in action due to difficulty to implement or put into action effectively.

[NMaa942]

...im really not sure what you are going for here... how does this line of conversation relate to the thread?

one of the few things that was good about the khmer rouge was that one of it's basic tenents was disproportionate retribution
it would behoove you to take up this value

[The USOT]

...im really not sure what you are going for here... how does this line of conversation relate to the thread?

one of the few things that was good about the khmer rouge was that one of it's basic tenents was disproportionate retribution
it would behoove you to take up this value

...good for you... but seriously this is nothing related to the thread so I am going to ignore your posts from now on... have fun

[Natair]

Minus the whole "violent-revolution-to-overthrow-the-middle-and-upper-class" part, sure. But violent revolution is a bad solution.

[NMaa942]

Minus the whole "violent-revolution-to-overthrow-the-middle-and-upper-class" part, sure. But violent revolution is a bad solution.

it may be a bad solution but it's an amusing occurrence
try to laugh at all involved for the poorness of their wisdom
if the upper classes could be fucked to rule, they would be revered as kings, instead of overthrown.
and of course it won't bring anything good to the lower classes.

[Meryuma]

If you think humanity can basicly have a "Hive Mind" it will work, otherwise No

Capitalism requires people obey bosses, landlords, etc, yet communism is the collectivist system?

You still didn't give any explanation of why you think this.

Why do I think this? I think this because of precedence in regards to communism for a start in addition to the fact that I believe that the economic (and to extent social policies), that while admirable in theory would not work in action due to difficulty to implement or put into action effectively.

What difficulties implementing?

Also, what does "because of precedence in regards to communism for a start"? You probably mean precedents, not precedence. If this is some kind of Leninism-based accusation, those were command economies, not socialist or communist economies.

[Kvatchdom]

It will work. Simple. Get rid of greed, corruption, the state, police, war, and you got the perfect communist society.

[Union of European Socialist Republics]

of course.

[Canadian Davsland]

No it wouldn't. The failure of communism in the early 90's was proof that the system does not work.

[Kiembar]

Clearly anyone saying no has not researched it far enough.

Yes.

[NMaa942]

Capitalism requires people obey bosses, landlords, etc, yet communism is the collectivist system?

this is why I am not really communist. it would behoove you to become mad not-a-communist collectivist.

[Fartsniffage]

Not yet.

[Goodclark]

no

[Liriena]

If something or someone managed to somehow gradually change human nature, and human beings' natural instincts of ambition and competitivity...yeah, communism could work.

[Clywen]

The idea of communism is all nice and dandy but you have to realize that although you may be providing some services for people you are also destroying them at the same time.

Say you want to excel and go above and beyond. You work harder than anyone else. You'd end up in the same place as some bum who flopped around all day. With communism you are forcing everyone to be equal. No matter how much input you do in a communist society, everyone always gets the same output. Yes it may seem more easy to run a country and more efficient, but if you want a society where everyone is equal and happy, taking away their freedoms is not the way to do it.

No matter what country you look at you will always end up in a similar location. If the USA for some reason became communist today, it would be similar to North Korea in the end.

[Risottia]

Simple question. Do you think all-out communism with will in real life. With a countries like the UK, Australia, United States, or China?

I mean the Marx and Engel communism not the common interpretation of communism.

Considering that, according to Marx and Engels (see Die Grundrissen der deutschen Ideologie, iirc) countries, nationalism and nation-states are superstructures of the bourgoise society and of its production structures, of course Marxian communism can't exist with countries. See also: internationalism.

[Zottistan]

On a large scale, the whole idea of "true" communism would not work. At some stage, it would need some level of authoritarianism to ensure that everyone gives at least as much as they take. I say "authoritarianism", not "dictatorship". All you'd need to do is make sure everyone is working, and no one is leaching money off some flaw in the system.

[Risottia]

With communism you are forcing everyone to be equal.

Please, since we're discussing "Marx-and-Engels communism", underline exactly where in their opus they theorized and voiced support for an enforced total egalitarianism.

[Risottia]

On a large scale, the whole idea of "true" communism would not work. At some stage, it would need some level of authoritarianism to ensure that everyone gives at least as much as they take. I say "authoritarianism", not "dictatorship". All you'd need to do is make sure everyone is working, and no one is leaching money off some flaw in the system.

So, you would say that socialism would be possible, but communism is entirely utopian?

[Risottia]

If you think humanity can basicly have a "Hive Mind"

It's called "democracy". The collective exercise of political power by all citizens.

[Aleckandor]

With robot overlords that keep watch over our behaviors and actions, it might.

[Zottistan]

On a large scale, the whole idea of "true" communism would not work. At some stage, it would need some level of authoritarianism to ensure that everyone gives at least as much as they take. I say "authoritarianism", not "dictatorship". All you'd need to do is make sure everyone is working, and no one is leaching money off some flaw in the system.

So, you would say that socialism would be possible, but communism is entirely utopian?

I would think communism where the people as a whole help eachother is entirely utopian, but communism where the people as a whole are made to help eachother is perfectly possible.