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Postby Eleutheria » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:23 pm

Fail at indoctrinating children so utterly into Catholicism (not that that is a good thing, but seeing as that was their aim, they failed pretty miserably)
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Postby Yandere Schoolgirls » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:24 pm

Samuraikoku wrote:
Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:I am required to at an early age, it's compulsory. If I'm not required to attend I shouldn't be required to pay either. I should get a tax deduction.


Education is a public service in the interest of the State.

Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:The state isn't there to provide basic services. If they were they would provide, heating, electricity, food and gas. The market is there to provide basic services, not the state. The state is supposed to protect the market/people/law, and carry out justice.


The State has a vested interest in services like healthcare and education, on which the protection of the market/people/law you speak of rely very heavily on. How can the State carry out justice without educated judges/prosecutors/public defenders? How can it protect the people without educated law enforcement officers? How can it protect the market without the necessary legislation coming from, oh surprise, educated people in charge?

Self-defeating argument there.

I don't think you realize that there was a time before public schools existed. There were still people effectively leading the government, and people educated themselves using books.

You could make the same argument that the state has a vested interest in many other areas too. X is needed, because x is necessary. Without state x, catastrophe would follow. It all falls down when you mention that another x not provided by the state is also necessary, yet is provided effectively without state intervention. If public education were a necessity, then many other public services would be needed: public supermarkets, apple stores etc.

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Postby Yandere Schoolgirls » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:26 pm

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Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:Yes, using google I can navigate myself to many sites that have much to offer in the way of education. Startling revelation! by reading you're able to learn things, fascinating. Which brings me to another point: Another stupid things that school do is make me write essays, but won't allow me to source wikipedia.

That's not stupid. Wikipedia is peer edited, and people have made unsourced claims, made misinformed evaluations, and otherwise vandalized Wikipedia pages before, so you can't trust it 100% of the time.

If it were up to me, I wouldn't let people source Wikipedia either.

Also, does the phrase "not everything on the Internet is true" come to mind?

Instances of vandalism on Wikipedia are overt, and far and few in between.

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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:27 pm

Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:I don't think you realize that there was a time before public schools existed. There were still people effectively leading the government, and people educated themselves using books.

Before public education, the church was the one educating people. Moreover, before public education, only a small elite could even comprehend things being passed around during ages of expanding knowledge. Needless to say, thank to public education, information has spread much more easily, churches don't control education, etc. So, if your point is that public education didn't help us, you're ignorant of history. Maybe you shouldn't learn history from Google. :roll:
Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:You could make the same argument that the state has a vested interest in many other areas too. X is needed, because x is necessary. Without state x, catastrophe would follow. It all falls down when you mention that another x not provided by the state is also necessary, yet is provided effectively without state intervention. If public education were a necessity, then many other public services would be needed: public supermarkets, apple stores etc.

Greatest non-sequitur I've ever read on NSG.
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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:28 pm

Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:Instances of vandalism on Wikipedia are overt, and far and few in between.


Instances of [citations needed] are not exactly far and few between. That's why teachers tell you if you do use Wikipedia, use the citation itself as a source.

By the way, why do you ignore my posts when they prove you wrong?
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Individuality-ness » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:29 pm

Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:
Individuality-ness wrote:That's not stupid. Wikipedia is peer edited, and people have made unsourced claims, made misinformed evaluations, and otherwise vandalized Wikipedia pages before, so you can't trust it 100% of the time.

If it were up to me, I wouldn't let people source Wikipedia either.

Also, does the phrase "not everything on the Internet is true" come to mind?

Instances of vandalism on Wikipedia are overt, and far and few in between.

It has happened. I remember once the Wikipedia page for Abraham Lincoln said that he was gay. Also, please address my last point about everything being on the internet not always being the truth.

(For the record, it's not true. The idea came from Lincoln sharing a bed with a friend, because it was cold, and because back then people had no qualms about friendships like that.)
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Postby Nadkor » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:29 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:Instances of vandalism on Wikipedia are overt, and far and few in between.


Instances of [citations needed] are not exactly far and few between. That's why teachers tell you if you do use Wikipedia, use the citation itself as a source.

By the way, why do you ignore my posts when they prove you wrong?


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Postby Yandere Schoolgirls » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:29 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
TheSurvived wrote:Also, you can learn via Google, but teachers can answer your questions. Sometimes you need to see a demo, sometimes you just need help down on the personal level.


Not sometimes, most of the time.

There's a reason why employers will laugh you out of an interview if you put on your application "Google" for level of Education.

They think that some one with a college or highschool education will be either more intelligent or have more work ethic. Both of those are illusions and they're both about the fall

Which brings me to another stupid things that my school system has done. Expand their campuses in light of the largest education bubble in the united states.

P.S. I don't care if you take me seriously.
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Postby TheSurvived » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:30 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
TheSurvived wrote:Also, you can learn via Google, but teachers can answer your questions. Sometimes you need to see a demo, sometimes you just need help down on the personal level.


Not sometimes, most of the time.

There's a reason why employers will laugh you out of an interview if you put on your application "Google" for level of Education.


Eh if they get rid of the stupid, irresponsible teachers then I will agree with you.
A lot of my past teachers were incompetent unfortunately.
Honestly, you can't learn everything online. I think education will be most effective if the students read the lessons themselves, come to school next day and the teachers basically answer their questions. I hate how schools just shuffle kids around without considering their abilities.

I would prefer homeschooling, but then my social skills will be a total wack.

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Postby Individuality-ness » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:31 pm

Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:P.S. I don't care if you take me seriously.

Good to know, now I can just mark you off as a satirist. *nods*
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Postby Yandere Schoolgirls » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:34 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:Instances of vandalism on Wikipedia are overt, and far and few in between.


Instances of [citations needed] are not exactly far and few between. That's why teachers tell you if you do use Wikipedia, use the citation itself as a source.

By the way, why do you ignore my posts when they prove you wrong?

I haven't ignored your posts.

Mavorpen wrote:
Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:I don't think you realize that there was a time before public schools existed. There were still people effectively leading the government, and people educated themselves using books.

Before public education, the church was the one educating people. Moreover, before public education, only a small elite could even comprehend things being passed around during ages of expanding knowledge. Needless to say, thank to public education, information has spread much more easily, churches don't control education, etc. So, if your point is that public education didn't help us, you're ignorant of history. Maybe you shouldn't learn history from Google. :roll:

Wrong, technology has been the greatest expander of education in the world, not public schooling. The advent of printing was the harbinger of educational enlightenment in the information age. It made knowledge much more accessible and easier to comprehend.

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Postby Yandere Schoolgirls » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:35 pm

Individuality-ness wrote:
Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:P.S. I don't care if you take me seriously.

Good to know, now I can just mark you off as a satirist. *nods*

I'm very sincere in my beliefs, or else I would not waste time typing out the paragraphs in the first place.

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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:35 pm

Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:They think that some one with a college or highschool education will be either more intelligent or have more work ethic. Both of those are illusions and they're both about the fall

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/med ... 52237552/1
http://www.iqtestexperts.com/iq-education.php

What work ethic has to do with this, I have no clue.
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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:37 pm

Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:Wrong, technology has been the greatest expander of education in the world, not public schooling. The advent of printing was the harbinger of educational enlightenment in the information age. It made knowledge much more accessible and easier to comprehend.

Actually, no it didn't. The printing press just made it easier for the elite to become more elite and to use propaganda and thus manipulate people. Public education taken over by the state stopped this and allowed more access to objective information and allowed more people to learn.
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Postby Herrebrugh » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:38 pm

Making people read comic books for misbehavior in the schoolyard.
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Postby Des Moines » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:38 pm

My school made us all wear IDs until we all stopped wearing them and other stupid shit they've done is having police officers hand out $100 fines to anyone who jay walks

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Postby Artoonia » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:39 pm

New England and The Maritimes wrote:Firing everyone in the middle of a recession.


Move to Pennsylvania. Our schools have people walk out of interviews when they find out the starting salary is only 250% of the area's median household (not individual) income.

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Postby Castille de Italia » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:45 pm

When I went to high school, they had the police issue $500 citations if you got in a fight. It was a private school, so needless to say, people got in more fights just to waste their parents money.
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Postby Unibot II » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:47 pm

Our school banned pokemon because it was a danger to students -- one kid strangled another kid for a card (the strangler likely was born with that neckbeard). Same thing with GEL PENS, bayblade thingies, miniature finger-sized skateboard things, suspenders, nerf and lacrosse balls, and those rubbery water-balls attached to an elastic string which some kid managed to strangle himself with. Proving that almost everything but studying-hard could catch on as a fad at my school.

Also, I'm Canadian and should have received french classes, but the school separated boys and girls -- girls got french class, boys got extra Gym class.
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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:49 pm

Unibot II wrote:Our school banned pokemon because it was a danger to students -- one kid strangled another kid for a card (the strangler likely was born with that neckbeard). Same thing with GEL PENS, bayblade thingies, miniature finger-sized skateboard things, suspenders, nerf and lacrosse balls, and those rubbery water-balls attached to an elastic string which some kid managed to strangle himself with. Proving that almost everything but studying-hard could catch on as a fad at my school.

Also, I'm Canadian and should have received french classes, but the school separated boys and girls -- girls got french class, boys got extra Gym class.


These fucking things right here. These stupid silly bands made our middle schools go to shit. For some reason, some god damn reason, middle schoolers were having sex and giving blowjobs for them.

Go Texas!
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Postby TheSurvived » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:56 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Unibot II wrote:Our school banned pokemon because it was a danger to students -- one kid strangled another kid for a card (the strangler likely was born with that neckbeard). Same thing with GEL PENS, bayblade thingies, miniature finger-sized skateboard things, suspenders, nerf and lacrosse balls, and those rubbery water-balls attached to an elastic string which some kid managed to strangle himself with. Proving that almost everything but studying-hard could catch on as a fad at my school.

Also, I'm Canadian and should have received french classes, but the school separated boys and girls -- girls got french class, boys got extra Gym class.


These fucking things right here. These stupid silly bands made our middle schools go to shit. For some reason, some god damn reason, middle schoolers were having sex and giving blowjobs for them.

Go Texas!


WHAT??!!!! O___O
for silly bands???!!!!!!!!!

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Postby Typhlochactas » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:58 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Unibot II wrote:Our school banned pokemon because it was a danger to students -- one kid strangled another kid for a card (the strangler likely was born with that neckbeard). Same thing with GEL PENS, bayblade thingies, miniature finger-sized skateboard things, suspenders, nerf and lacrosse balls, and those rubbery water-balls attached to an elastic string which some kid managed to strangle himself with. Proving that almost everything but studying-hard could catch on as a fad at my school.

Also, I'm Canadian and should have received french classes, but the school separated boys and girls -- girls got french class, boys got extra Gym class.


These fucking things right here. These stupid silly bands made our middle schools go to shit. For some reason, some god damn reason, middle schoolers were having sex and giving blowjobs for them.

Go Texas!


Those toys are so stupid.

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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:59 pm

TheSurvived wrote:
WHAT??!!!! O___O
for silly bands???!!!!!!!!!


Yeah... this was around the time I became a misanthrope.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Genivaria » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:59 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Unibot II wrote:Our school banned pokemon because it was a danger to students -- one kid strangled another kid for a card (the strangler likely was born with that neckbeard). Same thing with GEL PENS, bayblade thingies, miniature finger-sized skateboard things, suspenders, nerf and lacrosse balls, and those rubbery water-balls attached to an elastic string which some kid managed to strangle himself with. Proving that almost everything but studying-hard could catch on as a fad at my school.

Also, I'm Canadian and should have received french classes, but the school separated boys and girls -- girls got french class, boys got extra Gym class.


These fucking things right here. These stupid silly bands made our middle schools go to shit. For some reason, some god damn reason, middle schoolers were having sex and giving blowjobs for them.

Go Texas!

....hey kids I've got some silly bands here, you know the drill...
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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:02 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
These fucking things right here. These stupid silly bands made our middle schools go to shit. For some reason, some god damn reason, middle schoolers were having sex and giving blowjobs for them.

Go Texas!

....hey kids I've got some silly bands here, you know the drill...

oh god why would you make that joke

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