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by Eleutheria » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:23 pm

by Yandere Schoolgirls » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:24 pm
Samuraikoku wrote:Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:I am required to at an early age, it's compulsory. If I'm not required to attend I shouldn't be required to pay either. I should get a tax deduction.
Education is a public service in the interest of the State.Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:The state isn't there to provide basic services. If they were they would provide, heating, electricity, food and gas. The market is there to provide basic services, not the state. The state is supposed to protect the market/people/law, and carry out justice.
The State has a vested interest in services like healthcare and education, on which the protection of the market/people/law you speak of rely very heavily on. How can the State carry out justice without educated judges/prosecutors/public defenders? How can it protect the people without educated law enforcement officers? How can it protect the market without the necessary legislation coming from, oh surprise, educated people in charge?
Self-defeating argument there.

by Yandere Schoolgirls » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:26 pm
Individuality-ness wrote:Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:Yes, using google I can navigate myself to many sites that have much to offer in the way of education. Startling revelation! by reading you're able to learn things, fascinating. Which brings me to another point: Another stupid things that school do is make me write essays, but won't allow me to source wikipedia.
That's not stupid. Wikipedia is peer edited, and people have made unsourced claims, made misinformed evaluations, and otherwise vandalized Wikipedia pages before, so you can't trust it 100% of the time.
If it were up to me, I wouldn't let people source Wikipedia either.
Also, does the phrase "not everything on the Internet is true" come to mind?

by Mavorpen » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:27 pm
Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:I don't think you realize that there was a time before public schools existed. There were still people effectively leading the government, and people educated themselves using books.
Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:You could make the same argument that the state has a vested interest in many other areas too. X is needed, because x is necessary. Without state x, catastrophe would follow. It all falls down when you mention that another x not provided by the state is also necessary, yet is provided effectively without state intervention. If public education were a necessity, then many other public services would be needed: public supermarkets, apple stores etc.

by Mavorpen » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:28 pm
Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:Instances of vandalism on Wikipedia are overt, and far and few in between.

by Individuality-ness » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:29 pm
Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:Individuality-ness wrote:That's not stupid. Wikipedia is peer edited, and people have made unsourced claims, made misinformed evaluations, and otherwise vandalized Wikipedia pages before, so you can't trust it 100% of the time.
If it were up to me, I wouldn't let people source Wikipedia either.
Also, does the phrase "not everything on the Internet is true" come to mind?
Instances of vandalism on Wikipedia are overt, and far and few in between.

by Nadkor » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:29 pm
Mavorpen wrote:Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:Instances of vandalism on Wikipedia are overt, and far and few in between.
Instances of [citations needed] are not exactly far and few between. That's why teachers tell you if you do use Wikipedia, use the citation itself as a source.
By the way, why do you ignore my posts when they prove you wrong?

by Yandere Schoolgirls » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:29 pm
Mavorpen wrote:TheSurvived wrote:Also, you can learn via Google, but teachers can answer your questions. Sometimes you need to see a demo, sometimes you just need help down on the personal level.
Not sometimes, most of the time.
There's a reason why employers will laugh you out of an interview if you put on your application "Google" for level of Education.

by TheSurvived » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:30 pm
Mavorpen wrote:TheSurvived wrote:Also, you can learn via Google, but teachers can answer your questions. Sometimes you need to see a demo, sometimes you just need help down on the personal level.
Not sometimes, most of the time.
There's a reason why employers will laugh you out of an interview if you put on your application "Google" for level of Education.

by Individuality-ness » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:31 pm
Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:P.S. I don't care if you take me seriously.

by Yandere Schoolgirls » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:34 pm
Mavorpen wrote:Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:Instances of vandalism on Wikipedia are overt, and far and few in between.
Instances of [citations needed] are not exactly far and few between. That's why teachers tell you if you do use Wikipedia, use the citation itself as a source.
By the way, why do you ignore my posts when they prove you wrong?
Mavorpen wrote:Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:I don't think you realize that there was a time before public schools existed. There were still people effectively leading the government, and people educated themselves using books.
Before public education, the church was the one educating people. Moreover, before public education, only a small elite could even comprehend things being passed around during ages of expanding knowledge. Needless to say, thank to public education, information has spread much more easily, churches don't control education, etc. So, if your point is that public education didn't help us, you're ignorant of history. Maybe you shouldn't learn history from Google.![]()

by Yandere Schoolgirls » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:35 pm

by Mavorpen » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:35 pm
Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:They think that some one with a college or highschool education will be either more intelligent or have more work ethic. Both of those are illusions and they're both about the fall

by Mavorpen » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:37 pm
Yandere Schoolgirls wrote:Wrong, technology has been the greatest expander of education in the world, not public schooling. The advent of printing was the harbinger of educational enlightenment in the information age. It made knowledge much more accessible and easier to comprehend.
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by Unibot II » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:47 pm
Vocenae wrote:Unibot, you have won NS.
General Halcones wrote:Look up to Unibot as an example.

by Mavorpen » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:49 pm
Unibot II wrote:Our school banned pokemon because it was a danger to students -- one kid strangled another kid for a card (the strangler likely was born with that neckbeard). Same thing with GEL PENS, bayblade thingies, miniature finger-sized skateboard things, suspenders, nerf and lacrosse balls, and those rubbery water-balls attached to an elastic string which some kid managed to strangle himself with. Proving that almost everything but studying-hard could catch on as a fad at my school.
Also, I'm Canadian and should have received french classes, but the school separated boys and girls -- girls got french class, boys got extra Gym class.

by TheSurvived » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:56 pm
Mavorpen wrote:Unibot II wrote:Our school banned pokemon because it was a danger to students -- one kid strangled another kid for a card (the strangler likely was born with that neckbeard). Same thing with GEL PENS, bayblade thingies, miniature finger-sized skateboard things, suspenders, nerf and lacrosse balls, and those rubbery water-balls attached to an elastic string which some kid managed to strangle himself with. Proving that almost everything but studying-hard could catch on as a fad at my school.
Also, I'm Canadian and should have received french classes, but the school separated boys and girls -- girls got french class, boys got extra Gym class.
These fucking things right here. These stupid silly bands made our middle schools go to shit. For some reason, some god damn reason, middle schoolers were having sex and giving blowjobs for them.
Go Texas!

by Typhlochactas » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:58 pm
Mavorpen wrote:Unibot II wrote:Our school banned pokemon because it was a danger to students -- one kid strangled another kid for a card (the strangler likely was born with that neckbeard). Same thing with GEL PENS, bayblade thingies, miniature finger-sized skateboard things, suspenders, nerf and lacrosse balls, and those rubbery water-balls attached to an elastic string which some kid managed to strangle himself with. Proving that almost everything but studying-hard could catch on as a fad at my school.
Also, I'm Canadian and should have received french classes, but the school separated boys and girls -- girls got french class, boys got extra Gym class.
These fucking things right here. These stupid silly bands made our middle schools go to shit. For some reason, some god damn reason, middle schoolers were having sex and giving blowjobs for them.
Go Texas!

by Mavorpen » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:59 pm

by Genivaria » Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:59 pm
Mavorpen wrote:Unibot II wrote:Our school banned pokemon because it was a danger to students -- one kid strangled another kid for a card (the strangler likely was born with that neckbeard). Same thing with GEL PENS, bayblade thingies, miniature finger-sized skateboard things, suspenders, nerf and lacrosse balls, and those rubbery water-balls attached to an elastic string which some kid managed to strangle himself with. Proving that almost everything but studying-hard could catch on as a fad at my school.
Also, I'm Canadian and should have received french classes, but the school separated boys and girls -- girls got french class, boys got extra Gym class.
These fucking things right here. These stupid silly bands made our middle schools go to shit. For some reason, some god damn reason, middle schoolers were having sex and giving blowjobs for them.
Go Texas!

by Mad hatters in jeans » Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:02 pm
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