Stupidest things that your school system has done

[Conscentia]

I'm waiting on your to explain these "useless classes" and provided sources for anything you're saying.

Have you not been to school? The value of every class is subjective. One student might be able to learn a lot on his/her own, and another student might not be interested or need much education beyond the rudimentary. An obvious class that comes to mind would be computer tech, which effectively spends hours teaching kids things they could learn on a 30 second google search.

They shouldn't have to Google search. They should know it themselves. The information Google provides is derived from where people have decided to share their knowledge on the internet.

[Mavorpen]

They shouldn't have to google search. They should know it themselves.

Not to mention Google Searches don't actually teach you anything.

[Hockenberg]

Having school uniforms.

School uniforms are a waste of time and money.

Fixed.

[Abatael]

School uniforms are a waste of time and money.

Fixed.

Don't misquote me.

[Yandere Schoolgirls]

Have you not been to school? The value of every class is subjective. One student might be able to learn a lot on his/her own, and another student might not be interested or need much education beyond the rudimentary. An obvious class that comes to mind would be computer tech, which effectively spends hours teaching kids things they could on a 30 second google search.

I'm wondering if you've been to school yourself. I know many students learn a lot on their own. I learn quite a lot from books. That has no warrant on public education. You're still being vague. What do you consider "beyond the rudimentary"? Concerning Computer Tech, are you talking high school? From my own experience, I can't say much concerning that.

I'm talking about any computer class k-12. Beyond the rudimentary would be simply being able to read, or add/subtract etc.

You're right, I shouldn't have to. It's a parents duty.

No, I mean why invest in anything? Why stop at school?[/quote]
You can answer that, but the real question is: Why invest in services that you aren't using? Should I pay a portion of your groceries, or pay your car insurance? Hopefully, you see how ridiculous this all is.

I thought it would be pretty obvious that smart people usually perform better at school. See what I mean now by a lack of common sense?

If it's so obvious, there should be a scientific consensus on it and you should be able to find, instead of saying, "IT'S OBVIOUS! YOU DON'T HAVE COMMON SENSE!" .

Because the educational establishment opposes any view that may be contrary to their own. It benefits them to believe the problem is unrelated to genetic and cognitive ability, because if it isn't. Why bother teaching people who gain nothing out of it?

No, I just want my taxes cut, so I can make more money. Close though. I don't want to pay into your stupid school system. If it's so important to you guys, then you should hike your own taxes and leave people like me out.

Haha, no. Move then.

Why not? I ask you PEOPLE this question all the time. Cut my taxes, since I'm not using the services and take a tax hike. It makes sense, why should I pay for a service that I'm not using? Why must you be a bully and force me to pay? Maybe, I will leave, but so will others who think like me. Most likely they won't be stupid either.

[Samuraikoku]

Why not? I ask you PEOPLE this question all the time. Cut my taxes, since I'm not using the services and take a tax hike. It makes sense, why should I pay for a service that I'm not using? Why must you be a bully and force me to pay?

You're not required to attend public school system, but that isn't the State's problem. The state is there to provide basic services for the community. One of these services is education. That you choose a private option is entirely your problem, not the State's.

Also, get over the idea that state taxation is bullying, as it comes from the law, derived from the power vested in the representatives you've voted.

[Yandere Schoolgirls]

They shouldn't have to google search. They should know it themselves.

Not to mention Google Searches don't actually teach you anything.

I beg to differ. I've learned far more using Google than I have from school past the 8th grade.

[Samuraikoku]

Not to mention Google Searches don't actually teach you anything.

I beg to differ. I've learned far more using Google than I have from school past the 8th grade.

Shows in your idea that "state is bully for forcing me to pay for services". Obviously, you didn't attend law school.

[TheSurvived]

Why not? I ask you PEOPLE this question all the time. Cut my taxes, since I'm not using the services and take a tax hike. It makes sense, why should I pay for a service that I'm not using? Why must you be a bully and force me to pay?

You're not required to attend public school system, but that isn't the State's problem. The state is there to provide basic services for the community. One of these services is education. That you choose a private option is entirely your problem, not the State's.

Also, get over the idea that state taxation is bullying, as it comes from the law, derived from the power vested in the representatives you've voted.

I'm not in hospital, I don't have cancer, I don't live in those tall buildings.
Why must the state force me to pay for those???!!!

Same idea. Stop complaining already..

[Mavorpen]

I'm talking about any computer class k-12. Beyond the rudimentary would be simply being able to read, or add/subtract etc.

Lolwhut? Our workforce would go to shit. Explain why algebra is useless.

You can answer that, but the real question is: Why invest in services that you aren't using? Should I pay a portion of your groceries, or pay your car insurance? Hopefully, you see how ridiculous this all is.

Of course I see how ridiculous that is, because it's a stupid analogy. Education affects us all, without a good public education, the economy suffers, as I have already proven.

Because the educational establishment opposes any view that may be contrary to their own. It benefits them to believe the problem is unrelated to genetic and cognitive ability, because if it isn't. Why bother teaching people who gain nothing out of it?

So you don't have any sources. Why should I take you seriously?

Why not? I ask you PEOPLE this question all the time. Cut my taxes, since I'm not using the services and take a tax hike. It makes sense, why should I pay for a service that I'm not using? Why must you be a bully and force me to pay? Maybe, I will leave, but so will others who think like me. Most likely they won't be stupid either.

No, they'll be stupid. The people who think welfare is useless usually are. Eventually they'll realize that without it or public education, you won't progress pass Third World or Developing status. Your economy will grow at a snail's pace, and your "paradise" will be a joke to the rest of the world.

[Samuraikoku]

I'm not in hospital, I don't have cancer, I don't live in those tall buildings.
Why must the state force me to pay for those???!!!

Same idea. Stop complaining already..

Because healthcare is an obligation of the State. You may not have cancer, but nothing guarantees that you won't ever get cancer, and wild capitalism help you if you don't happen to have the necessary funds to cover up your treatment. That's where the State steps in, via the law.

[Mavorpen]

Not to mention Google Searches don't actually teach you anything.

I beg to differ. I've learned far more using Google than I have from school past the 8th grade.

Yeah, no.

[Yandere Schoolgirls]

They shouldn't have to Google search. They should know it themselves. The information Google provides is derived from where people have decided to share their knowledge on the internet.

This post makes no sense.

You're not required to attend public school system, but that isn't the State's problem. The state is there to provide basic services for the community. One of these services is education. That you choose a private option is entirely your problem, not the State's.

I am required to at an early age, it's compulsory. If I'm not required to attend I shouldn't be required to pay either. I should get a tax deduction.

The state isn't there to provide basic services. If they were they would provide, heating, electricity, food and gas. The market is there to provide basic services, not the state. The state is supposed to protect the market/people/law, and carry out justice.

[Rasoan]

My friend got detention for stretching his legs in class, while still in his seat.

[TheSurvived]

I'm not in hospital, I don't have cancer, I don't live in those tall buildings.
Why must the state force me to pay for those???!!!

Same idea. Stop complaining already..

Because healthcare is an obligation of the State. You may not have cancer, but nothing guarantees that you won't ever get cancer, and wild capitalism help you if you don't happen to have the necessary funds to cover up your treatment. That's where the State steps in, via the law.

I was offering an example as to the fact that there are times where you have to do certain things, even if you hate it.
Do I like taxes for healthcare? No. Would I pay for them? Yes. Because there might come times when I need them myself.

Same thing goes with education. S/he may dislike taxes for education, but his or her children may need them someday themselves.

[Yandere Schoolgirls]

I'm not in hospital, I don't have cancer, I don't live in those tall buildings.
Why must the state force me to pay for those???!!!

Same idea. Stop complaining already..

No, I will not stop anything

[Mavorpen]

I'm not in hospital, I don't have cancer, I don't live in those tall buildings.
Why must the state force me to pay for those???!!!

Same idea. Stop complaining already..

No, I will not stop anything

Then the state will not stop making school mandatory. Isn't life grand?

[Samuraikoku]

I am required to at an early age, it's compulsory. If I'm not required to attend I shouldn't be required to pay either. I should get a tax deduction.

Education is a public service in the interest of the State.

The state isn't there to provide basic services. If they were they would provide, heating, electricity, food and gas. The market is there to provide basic services, not the state. The state is supposed to protect the market/people/law, and carry out justice.

The State has a vested interest in services like healthcare and education, on which the protection of the market/people/law you speak of rely very heavily on. How can the State carry out justice without educated judges/prosecutors/public defenders? How can it protect the people without educated law enforcement officers? How can it protect the market without the necessary legislation coming from, oh surprise, educated people in charge?

Self-defeating argument there.

[Yandere Schoolgirls]

I beg to differ. I've learned far more using Google than I have from school past the 8th grade.

Yeah, no.

Yes, using google I can navigate myself to many sites that have much to offer in the way of education. Startling revelation! by reading you're able to learn things, fascinating. Which brings me to another point: Another stupid things that school do is make me write essays, but won't allow me to source wikipedia.

[Samuraikoku]

Yes, using google I can navigate myself to many sites that have much to offer in the way of education. Startling revelation! by reading you're able to learn things, fascinating. Which brings me to another point: Another stupid things that school do is make me write essays, but won't allow me to source wikipedia.

Because anyone can go and edit Wikipedia, silly.

Not everyone, however, can write something worthy enough to be deemed as a respectable source.

[Nadkor]

Yeah, no.

Yes, using google I can navigate myself to many sites that have much to offer in the way of education. Startling revelation! by reading you're able to learn things, fascinating. Which brings me to another point: Another stupid things that school do is make me write essays, but won't allow me to source wikipedia.

Aw, diddums.

[Mavorpen]

Yes, using google I can navigate myself to many sites that have much to offer in the way of education. Startling revelation! by reading you're able to learn things, fascinating. Which brings me to another point: Another stupid things that school do is make me write essays, but won't allow me to source wikipedia.

At the efficiency of a public education? Yeah, no.

And are you seriously that lazy? Click on the citations next to the pieces of information and source them instead of Wikipedia. Yep, I think I'm about done even taking you remotely seriously.

[TheSurvived]

Yeah, no.

Yes, using google I can navigate myself to many sites that have much to offer in the way of education. Startling revelation! by reading you're able to learn things, fascinating. Which brings me to another point: Another stupid things that school do is make me write essays, but won't allow me to source wikipedia.

Anyone can edit Wikipedia, which is the main reason why people aren't not allowed to use it. You can find the sources that Wikipedia got the info from. That's your citation there.

Also, you can learn via Google, but teachers can answer your questions. Sometimes you need to see a demo, sometimes you just need help down on the personal level.

[Individuality-ness]

Yeah, no.

Yes, using google I can navigate myself to many sites that have much to offer in the way of education. Startling revelation! by reading you're able to learn things, fascinating. Which brings me to another point: Another stupid things that school do is make me write essays, but won't allow me to source wikipedia.

That's not stupid. Wikipedia is peer edited, and people have made unsourced claims, made misinformed evaluations, and otherwise vandalized Wikipedia pages before, so you can't trust it 100% of the time.

If it were up to me, I wouldn't let people source Wikipedia either.

Also, does the phrase "not everything on the Internet is true" come to mind?

[Mavorpen]

Also, you can learn via Google, but teachers can answer your questions. Sometimes you need to see a demo, sometimes you just need help down on the personal level.

Not sometimes, most of the time.

There's a reason why employers will laugh you out of an interview if you put on your application "Google" for level of Education.