Civil War in Syria, what do you think?

[West Vandengaarde]

First you cite a Jewish news source. One point docked.
Second, thousands of protesters is NOT a popular movement, and 10 killed from thousands points to it not being a massacre of protesters but perhaps riot prevention.

Oh my fucking god. Yep, it's the Jews trying to start shit in Syria. Obviously.

Goddamn your post is fucking stupid.

I didn't even say that. Jewish news sources are biased.

[Exi1and]

I do not understand. You are talking about the war against Georgia in 2008?

Google "William Tecumseh Sherman"

Yes, I understand what you mean now. Al-Assad should march to the Tigris, any city on his way to resist to be fully destroyed with the artillery.

[Helcasia]

Just let I happen

Jesus.

How a person can have so little compassion is beyond me.

Psychosis?
Empathy Deficit Disorder?
Politician?

[Wamitoria]

Yes, and the Jewish lizard-people are causing the uprising in order to further the imperialist ambitions of the rothchilds.

For fuck sake, listen to yourself. You sound like a goddamn New Left nutcase from the late '60s.

I don't like violence. I don't like how the rebels are closely associated with Al Qaeda and other groups. I don't like how they slaughter Alawites and discriminate against Christians. I like the Assad presidency.

Christians and Muslims show solidarity in remembrance of the Homs massacres by the Assad government.
This former government official claims that the Syrian government has ties to Al Qaeda.

[Exi1and]

The act of protest was one of rebellion, as the goal was to remove the legitimate government. Since then, the government was right to defend itself.

That was proven when, despite reforms being passed, they continued their murders. Had they laid down arms at least temporarily to allow the government to show it meant what it was doing, perhaps there could be sympathy for them, but at this point they are despicable.

It just shows that these democratic reforms will not work. Syria does not have to change their form of government, because some terrorists told them.

[West Vandengaarde]

I don't like violence. I don't like how the rebels are closely associated with Al Qaeda and other groups. I don't like how they slaughter Alawites and discriminate against Christians. I like the Assad presidency.

Christians and Muslims show solidarity in remembrance of the Homs massacres by the Assad government.
This former government official claims that the Syrian government has ties to Al Qaeda.

Some Christians are with the rebellion. Most are not.
That government official is a shill. That's why he left. The Assad regime is secular and moreover, Al Qaeda dislikes Shiites. Assad is a Shiite Alawite. Why would he have ties to Al Qaeda? That makes no sense.
Furthermore, as states earlier, a jihadist group claimed responsibility for the suicide bombing earlier.

[Shofercia]

Oh my fucking god. Yep, it's the Jews trying to start shit in Syria. Obviously.

Goddamn your post is fucking stupid.

I didn't even say that. Jewish news sources are biased.

The extreme majority of news sources on Syria are biased. It's a Civil War, and almost everyone's taking sides. Usually you have a biased news source from one side, countered by a biased news source from the other side. But apparently on Syria, if someone present RT people go "BIASED!" and "ALEX JONES!" and someone will certain spam "JEWS! ILLUMINATI!" but accepting Sky News is apparently "unbiased".

@Wami - he's saying that your sources are biased, not that you're trying to start shit. Granted, he should've said it better, but I think that was his point. Also, Sky News comment, not about you

[West Vandengaarde]

That was proven when, despite reforms being passed, they continued their murders. Had they laid down arms at least temporarily to allow the government to show it meant what it was doing, perhaps there could be sympathy for them, but at this point they are despicable.

It just shows that these democratic reforms will not work. Syria does not have to change their form of government, because some terrorists told them.

I think it would be good if they could at least stop the violence though, through reform and mediation, and then the majority will either show solidarity with the current government or move somewhere else. Assad acknowledges this.

[Wamitoria]

Oh my fucking god. Yep, it's the Jews trying to start shit in Syria. Obviously.

Goddamn your post is fucking stupid.

I didn't even say that. Jewish news sources are biased.

It was judged to be reliable enough to be used in a Wikipedia citation.

That being said, you probably think that all non-Russian news sources are biased.

[West Vandengaarde]

I didn't even say that. Jewish news sources are biased.

The extreme majority of news sources on Syria are biased. It's a Civil War, and almost everyone's taking sides. Usually you have a biased news source from one side, countered by a biased news source from the other side. But apparently on Syria, if someone present RT people go "BIASED!" and "ALEX JONES!" and someone will certain spam "JEWS! ILLUMINATI!" but accepting Sky News is apparently "unbiased".

@Wami - he's saying that your sources are biased, not that you're trying to start shit. Granted, he should've said it better, but I think that was his point. Also, Sky News comment, not about you

Everything really is biased, which I think is why so many people either don't care or just blindly support rebels because the news says they support democracy and freedom.
I did mean that, I didn't mean Jews are always biased. It's just they have a readership which requires an agenda, which they gladly give to their readers.

[Tmutarakhan]

Um... you don't understand how totalitarian governments work, do you.

Source for government initiating violence.

First you cite a Jewish news source. One point docked.
Second, thousands of protesters is NOT a popular movement, and 10 killed from thousands points to it not being a massacre of protesters but perhaps riot prevention.

That's how you stop riots, all right, kill 10 today, and if that doesn't work start killing dozens a day, or hundreds a day. How's it working out for ya, huh? Them riots all calmed down now?

[Wamitoria]

Christians and Muslims show solidarity in remembrance of the Homs massacres by the Assad government.
This former government official claims that the Syrian government has ties to Al Qaeda.

Some Christians are with the rebellion. Most are not.

Source.

That government official is a shill.

Unverifiable opinion.

e Assad regime is secular and moreover, Al Qaeda dislikes Shiites. Assad is a Shiite Alawite. Why would he have ties to Al Qaeda? That makes no sense.

Al Qaeda goes after the US. Assad is deathly afraid of US intervention (and probably was more so following the botched Iraq War).

[West Vandengaarde]

First you cite a Jewish news source. One point docked.
Second, thousands of protesters is NOT a popular movement, and 10 killed from thousands points to it not being a massacre of protesters but perhaps riot prevention.

That's how you stop riots, all right, kill 10 today, and if that doesn't work start killing dozens a day, or hundreds a day. How's it working out for ya, huh? Them riots all calmed down now?

It stopped being mere riots once they picked up guns and began shooting at soldiers and police.
The government cannot sit back and let soldiers be picked off, they have to fight and get rid of cells of "rebels". Otherwise they let themselves be killed. No sane ruler, democratic or not, would do that.

[West Vandengaarde]

Some Christians are with the rebellion. Most are not.

Source.

That government official is a shill.

Unverifiable opinion.

e Assad regime is secular and moreover, Al Qaeda dislikes Shiites. Assad is a Shiite Alawite. Why would he have ties to Al Qaeda? That makes no sense.

Al Qaeda goes after the US. Assad is deathly afraid of US intervention (and probably was more so following the botched Iraq War).

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_162- ... -by-assad/ I respond to your video with a news source.
Ok, that is my opinion.
Al Qaeda tends to be rather...unwavering in its opinions, even to the point of insanity. I highly doubt they would ally themselves with Alawites.

[Wamitoria]

I did mean that, I didn't mean Jews are always biased.

Says Jews aren't always biased

It's just they have a readership which requires an agenda, which they gladly give to their readers.

Says that all Jewish publications have an agenda.

Lol. Go back to Alex Jones and your crazy Illuminati conspiracies. They probably make more sense than the line of thought you're producing here along with your genocidal friend, Ex1land.

[Norjagen]

That's how you stop riots, all right, kill 10 today, and if that doesn't work start killing dozens a day, or hundreds a day. How's it working out for ya, huh? Them riots all calmed down now?

It stopped being mere riots once they picked up guns and began shooting at soldiers and police.
The government cannot sit back and let soldiers be picked off, they have to fight and get rid of cells of "rebels". Otherwise they let themselves be killed. No sane ruler, democratic or not, would do that.

And if the soldiers were firing on protestors, rioting or not, then it's no longer a protest; it's a war.

[Exi1and]

Christians and Muslims show solidarity in remembrance of the Homs massacres by the Assad government.
This former government official claims that the Syrian government has ties to Al Qaeda.

Some Christians are with the rebellion. Most are not.
That government official is a shill. That's why he left. The Assad regime is secular and moreover, Al Qaeda dislikes Shiites. Assad is a Shiite Alawite. Why would he have ties to Al Qaeda? That makes no sense.
Furthermore, as states earlier, a jihadist group claimed responsibility for the suicide bombing earlier.

FSA also stated that they had committed the crime, which shows that the so-called rebels are actually in cahoots with the terrorist jihadists and should be called terrorists, too.

[West Vandengaarde]

I did mean that, I didn't mean Jews are always biased. [/url]
Says Jews aren't always biased

Says that all Jewish publications have an agenda.

Lol. Go back to Alex Jones and your crazy Illuminati conspiracies. They probably make more sense than the line of thought you're producing here along with your genocidal friend, Ex1land.

What?
Every news source has an agenda and in Israel it is no different, especially since they kind of have a love/hate relationship with Syria. (Ok, more the hate part.)
I don't listen to Alex Jones and think he's a rather odd person. I am not a conspiracy theorist. I supported intervention in Libya, pragmatically and slowly, but surely, I did.
Here I see things differently. My disagreement with you does not make me crazy. It makes me different.

[West Vandengaarde]

It stopped being mere riots once they picked up guns and began shooting at soldiers and police.
The government cannot sit back and let soldiers be picked off, they have to fight and get rid of cells of "rebels". Otherwise they let themselves be killed. No sane ruler, democratic or not, would do that.

And if the soldiers were firing on protestors, rioting or not, then it's no longer a protest; it's a war.

Ok, so when police fire tear gas and rubber bullets at protesters and one dies, it's a war?
I guess various U.S. protests were mini Civil Wars. Oops.

[Wamitoria]

Source.

Unverifiable opinion.

Al Qaeda goes after the US. Assad is deathly afraid of US intervention (and probably was more so following the botched Iraq War).

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_162- ... -by-assad/ I respond to your video with a news source.
Ok, that is my opinion.
Al Qaeda tends to be rather...unwavering in its opinions, even to the point of insanity. I highly doubt they would ally themselves with Alawites.

1. That source does still not contradict the video's proof that the rebels are not anti-Christian.
2. Your opinion.

[Wamitoria]

And if the soldiers were firing on protestors, rioting or not, then it's no longer a protest; it's a war.

Ok, so when police fire tear gas and rubber bullets at protesters and one dies, it's a war?
I guess various U.S. protests were mini Civil Wars. Oops.

When you fire on protesters with AKMs, it's a war.

Stop being deliberately obtuse.

[Andaluciae]

Oh, so the Syrian army found where they all lived and shot artillery shells at their houses? Yeah, I doubt it.
And prove that the army initiated violence. Prove that said violence was unwarranted. Prove that the protesters didn't intent to start rebellion.

The act of protest was one of rebellion, as the goal was to remove the legitimate government. Since then, the government was right to defend itself.

There is nothing even remotely legitimate about the Assad regime. His father came to power through violence, and they both maintained power through immense violence. If legitimacy can spring forth from the barrel of a gun, then sure, they have legitimacy--but that's the logic of thugs and gangsters.

[West Vandengaarde]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_162- ... -by-assad/ I respond to your video with a news source.
Ok, that is my opinion.
Al Qaeda tends to be rather...unwavering in its opinions, even to the point of insanity. I highly doubt they would ally themselves with Alawites.

1. That source does still not contradict the video's proof that the rebels are not anti-Christian.
2. Your opinion.

Your video proves SOME rebels aren't. It doesn't say anything about the majority, does it? Nope.
And no, that isn't my opinion. They don't unite populations against the U.S., they kill Shiites and unite Sunnis. Look at Iraq.

[Exi1and]

It just shows that these democratic reforms will not work. Syria does not have to change their form of government, because some terrorists told them.

I think it would be good if they could at least stop the violence though, through reform and mediation, and then the majority will either show solidarity with the current government or move somewhere else. Assad acknowledges this.

The violence will stop when the terrorists have lost. Then al-Assad can decide whether he wants to reform government, but seeing as it had been committed to reform and betrayed, I would not suggest it again. When you give someone a gift, and they break it, you do not give them the same gift again.

[Wamitoria]

Some Christians are with the rebellion. Most are not.
That government official is a shill. That's why he left. The Assad regime is secular and moreover, Al Qaeda dislikes Shiites. Assad is a Shiite Alawite. Why would he have ties to Al Qaeda? That makes no sense.
Furthermore, as states earlier, a jihadist group claimed responsibility for the suicide bombing earlier.

FSA also stated that they had committed the crime, which shows that the so-called rebels are actually in cahoots with the terrorist jihadists and should be called terrorists, too.

Oh please, either go back under your bridge or tell the people paying you to post here that it isn't worth it.