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Postby Amancoaly » Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:20 pm

NDAA do you support it or not i dont by the way

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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:21 pm

Amancoaly wrote:NDAA do you support it or not i dont by the way

Why don't you support paying our brave soldiers and sailors and flyers, and the civilian contractors who support them?
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Postby Virabia » Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:27 pm

Brave is questionable. And Farnhamia, he's likely referring to the part of the NDAA which could be used to view any American as an 'enemy combatant'
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:29 pm

Virabia wrote:Brave is questionable. And Farnhamia, he's likely referring to the part of the NDAA which could be used to view any American as an 'enemy combatant'

Braver than me, to volunteer to put yourself in a position that might cost you life and limb. And yes, I'm sure he does mean that, but he didn't say that, did he? I want to hear from him what he thinks the National Defense Authorization Act is and what it does, because like a lot of people around here, I suspect he has no bloody idea.

And that part of the act did nothing more than "reaffirm" power that the President and the government had had since 2001.
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Postby Franklin Delano Bluth » Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:30 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Amancoaly wrote:NDAA do you support it or not i dont by the way

Why don't you support paying our brave soldiers and sailors and flyers, and the civilian contractors who support them?


Speaking solely for myself, because a military has no place in a free society and because in the long run, responding to hatred with more hatred never does any good for anyone--only love does.

Furthermore, I think that Carthage must be destroyed.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:31 pm

Franklin Delano Bluth wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Why don't you support paying our brave soldiers and sailors and flyers, and the civilian contractors who support them?


Speaking solely for myself, because a military has no place in a free society and because in the long run, responding to hatred with more hatred never does any good for anyone--only love does.

Furthermore, I think that Carthage must be destroyed.

A lovely and noble sentiment but beside the point.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:33 pm

Maltropia wrote:Good or Evil? No in-between?

A little known provision of the 2009 NDAA outlawed "in-between." Choose.
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:37 pm

Virabia wrote:Brave is questionable. And Farnhamia, he's likely referring to the part of the NDAA which could be used to view any American as an 'enemy combatant'

Which is unconstitutional and will be thrown out if it's ever used.

Franklin Delano Bluth wrote:Speaking solely for myself, because a military has no place in a free society and because in the long run, responding to hatred with more hatred never does any good for anyone--only love does.
Like the opinion of the delusional matters.
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Postby Raeyh » Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:50 pm

What's NDAA? National Dairy Association of America?

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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:51 pm

The Lone Alliance wrote:
Virabia wrote:Brave is questionable. And Farnhamia, he's likely referring to the part of the NDAA which could be used to view any American as an 'enemy combatant'

Which is unconstitutional and will be thrown out if it's ever used.

Franklin Delano Bluth wrote:Speaking solely for myself, because a military has no place in a free society and because in the long run, responding to hatred with more hatred never does any good for anyone--only love does.
Like the opinion of the delusional matters.

The constitutionality of that power is for the courts to decide. You may think it's unconstitutional and I may not like it, but neither of our opinions really matters except as we express them to our elected representatives who might have acted to remove the language from the bill.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:52 pm

Raeyh wrote:What's NDAA? National Dairy Association of America?

National Defense Authorization Act
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Postby Norstal » Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:54 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Raeyh wrote:What's NDAA? National Dairy Association of America?

National Defense Authorization Act

Farn, the O.P didn't specify which NDAA and I'm inclined to believe it's the National Dairy Association of America.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:56 pm

Norstal wrote:

Farn, the O.P didn't specify which NDAA and I'm inclined to believe it's the National Dairy Association of America.

Well, you know, that could very well be. For all we know, he means the 2013 NDAA.
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Postby Caninope » Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:03 pm

Norstal wrote:

Farn, the O.P didn't specify which NDAA and I'm inclined to believe it's the National Dairy Association of America.

The National Dairy Association of America is indeed evil.

First, they're getting us hooked on cheese. Next, they're going to cut us off saying that we've had too much, as we protest that "We can quit anytime we want to, so give it back!"
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Postby Desperate Measures » Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:03 pm

Norstal wrote:

Farn, the O.P didn't specify which NDAA and I'm inclined to believe it's the National Dairy Association of America.

Fuck milk.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:04 pm

Desperate Measures wrote:
Norstal wrote:Farn, the O.P didn't specify which NDAA and I'm inclined to believe it's the National Dairy Association of America.

Fuck milk.

At least you didn't recommend fucking cows. I like milk, though.
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Postby Franklin Delano Bluth » Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:06 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Norstal wrote:Farn, the O.P didn't specify which NDAA and I'm inclined to believe it's the National Dairy Association of America.

Well, you know, that could very well be. For all we know, he means the 2013 NDAA.


I thought the 1974 NDAA was pretty cool...it had Tom Bombadil in it.

How can you not love Tom Bombadil?

Furthermore, I think that Carthage must be destroyed.
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Postby Desperate Measures » Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:07 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Desperate Measures wrote:Fuck milk.

At least you didn't recommend fucking cows. I like milk, though.

I like it too but I wanted to be angry. Angry at Obama's milk. I think that if I were going to actually sex up an animal that wasn't a primate, I don't know... I'm sort of not feeling cows. They're fairly unsexy, in my opinion. And all that methane... no thank you.
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Postby Vecherd » Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:08 pm

Sounds evil. No idea what it is.
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Postby Norstal » Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:09 pm

Caninope wrote:
Norstal wrote:Farn, the O.P didn't specify which NDAA and I'm inclined to believe it's the National Dairy Association of America.

The National Dairy Association of America is indeed evil.

First, they're getting us hooked on cheese. Next, they're going to cut us off saying that we've had too much, as we protest that "We can quit anytime we want to, so give it back!"

Good thing I've been consuming that Swiss cheese instead of American cheese.

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Postby Caninope » Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:10 pm

Vecherd wrote:Sounds evil. No idea what it is.

It's either the National Dairy Association of America or the National Defense Authorization Act.

One of these things is associated with one of the worst organizations to every exist. The other pays the bills of the US Department of Defense. :p
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Postby Caninope » Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:11 pm

Norstal wrote:
Caninope wrote:The National Dairy Association of America is indeed evil.

First, they're getting us hooked on cheese. Next, they're going to cut us off saying that we've had too much, as we protest that "We can quit anytime we want to, so give it back!"

Good thing I've been consuming that Swiss cheese instead of American cheese.

Oh noes, my unpatriotic secret has come out!

Who do you think masterminded this, Norstal? It was the Swiss Bankers/Lizardmen/Amateur Dairy Farmers!
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Postby Democratic Koyro » Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:12 pm

Wish our country actually spent money on defence, instead of cutting it into oblivion every year :/

Ontopic: Nothing wrong with the NDAA in my eyes.
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