What's more important, equal rights for gays or the economy.

[Democratic Koyro]

This thread is full of fail.

Comparing LGB issues to Jews in Nazi-dominated Europe?

I wonder how that will end.

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As far as I can see, the same people who are against gay rights are the one who would ruin the economy anyway, so it's no problem for me.

[Desperate Measures]

No. He's asking which is more important to you. Like, if you could only choose one, which would it be?

No I'm not!!! Lmao. Im simply stating that people who today say that the economy is more impOrtant are like some Germans in the 30's.

That is what I thought you said but it didn't mesh with your use of the word fags. Why did you do that? I think you're weird.

[Riddick Dove]

Now I don't understand why people are getting that impression. I was trying to defend my fellow homosexuals against comments like that that people make. Like, oh you think so? So did the Germans think that about the Jews. Oh well I gues I missed.

What the bloody hell are you talking about? You can't compare LGB issues to the jews in Nazi Germany..... The US Government isn't going to start rounding up Gays or build extermination camps in annexed Mexico any time soon.

Damnit! I mean early 30's. Not the genocidal nazis. Thats why I didn't say nazis. Hell, I said good German people. I'm talking about people during the Reublic who allowed tem to even get to that level. Ie elected them.

[Klas-Saul]

But allowing gay men and lesbian women or lesbian men and gay women or whatever they want to call themselves as it is their choice to call themselves what they want to marry would benefit the economy. There's a projected monetary gain to be made in my state, Washington, which is a few million. Not much, but it's still something...

[Adafdfadfasdf]

The protection of the civil rights of everyone should trump the economy.

The Republicans, mostly, are the ones saying that we shouldn't be focusing on "gay marriage" because the economy is more important. What do I say to that? Stop focusing on marriage equality, then. If you think that the economy is more important, you are perfectly capable of ceding the issue--let people marry who they choose.

If they pass, or repeal legislation about a certain topic, they are focusing on that topic...

No, by wasting time opposing it, they are focusing on it.

[Great Yorkshire]

But allowing gay men and lesbian women or lesbian men and gay women or whatever they want to call themselves as it is their choice to call themselves what they want to marry would benefit the economy. There's a projected monetary gain to be made in my state, Washington, which is a few million. Not much, but it's still something...

That few million is only the start. I heard from this one American news source... that after they let gays marry they're going to let people marry pigs and cats marry dogs and zombies marry the incredible hulk.... then we'll be rolling in the dough.

[Muckistania]

Same argument the CCP is making. They can't have basic civil rights since they're still developing a stable economy.

Once again, I'm still onto you, Jintao.

Most developed nations today had considerably fewer civil rights when developing than they do today. Of course that does not mean China can behave today like the developed nations did when they were developing as many aspects of the world today are different.

[Klas-Saul]

But allowing gay men and lesbian women or lesbian men and gay women or whatever they want to call themselves as it is their choice to call themselves what they want to marry would benefit the economy. There's a projected monetary gain to be made in my state, Washington, which is a few million. Not much, but it's still something...

That few million is only the start. I heard from this one American news source... that after they let gays marry they're going to let people marry pigs and cats marry dogs and zombies marry the incredible hulk.... then we'll be rolling in the dough.

Wow really? Let's get to legalizing everything then! Horse-Ghost, Man-Rock, Woman-Rock, Rock-Rock, I could go on!

One more thing.

How about polygamy? Why can't my girlfriend and I marry another person into our relationship? HRM? HRM?

[Abatael]

If they pass, or repeal legislation about a certain topic, they are focusing on that topic...

No, by wasting time opposing it, they are focusing on it.

If they oppose, they focus on it. If they aren't focusing on it, they aren't opposing it, as they are not paying any form of attention to it.

If they pass, or repeal legislation concerning it, they are focusing on it. If they oppose it, they are focusing on it. If they do not pay any form of attention to it, they are not focusing on it.

Edit: Focus = paying attention to it
No focus = not paying attention to it

[Great Yorkshire]

That few million is only the start. I heard from this one American news source... that after they let gays marry they're going to let people marry pigs and cats marry dogs and zombies marry the incredible hulk.... then we'll be rolling in the dough.

Wow really? Let's get to legalizing everything then! Horse-Ghost, Man-Rock, Woman-Rock, Rock-Rock, I could go on!

One more thing.

How about polygamy? Why can't my girlfriend and I marry another person into our relationship? HRM? HRM?

I can see why there's no rush to endorse it as many polygamous relationships are likely to be lopsided. But if... when I'm empress of Yorkshire... get you're polyamerous arses over here.

[Tigeria]

Da** the economy! Equal rights for Humans!

[Riddick Dove]

This thread is full of fail.

Comparing LGB issues to Jews in Nazi-dominated Europe?

I wonder how that will end.

Did the nazis own all of Europe in the 30's? I should brush up on my history then.

[Klas-Saul]

Wow really? Let's get to legalizing everything then! Horse-Ghost, Man-Rock, Woman-Rock, Rock-Rock, I could go on!

One more thing.

How about polygamy? Why can't my girlfriend and I marry another person into our relationship? HRM? HRM?

I can see why there's no rush to endorse it as many polygamous relationships are likely to be lopsided. But if... when I'm empress of Yorkshire... get you're polyamerous arses over here.

Fah! If facebook lets me be in an open relationship, why can't there be an open marriage?

Honestly, I don't see why the government should be allowed to dictate who can marry who, who can fuck who, who can be in a relationship with who, and how many people can be in said relationships.

[Great Yorkshire]

Da** the economy! Equal rights for Humans!

Oy Tigeria... your sig seems to says:
Too Cue Too Bee Straight... is that a snooker thing... hit the ball too hard and it spins off at a weird angle?

[Adafdfadfasdf]

No, by wasting time opposing it, they are focusing on it.

If they oppose, they focus on it. If they aren't focusing on it, they aren't opposing it, as they are not paying any form of attention to it.

If they pass, or repeal legislation concerning it, they are focusing on it. If they oppose it, they are focusing on it. If they do not pay any form of attention to it, they are not focusing on it.

Edit: Focus = paying attention to it
No focus = not paying attention to it

I can tell this is probably just going to go around in circles, but I'll give it one more shot.

Let's just use issue "A" and issue "B", so you're not emotionally attached to it.

Person 1 thinks that issue "A" should be passed. Person 2 hates the idea of issue "A" being passed, and says that we need to discuss issue "B". Person one really thinks that issue "A" is at least as important is issue "B". If person 2 would stop focusing on issue "A", and let it pass, then they could focus on issue "B".

By opposing issue "A", person two is focusing on it. If they would cede the issue to person 1, they wouldn't be focusing on it. It's pretty simple, actually.

Edit: By opposing it, they are paying more attention to it than just letting it pass.

[Thesan]

I prefer giving rights to a fag than to a capitalistic son of a bi**h, at least he/she will enjoy love instead of greed!

You do realize that greed is a form of love, right?

Oh please... love for a very material and soul-free thing, a form of love pffft... oh well.... maybe if you're Scrooge McDuck, of course!

[Divair]

Why does one need to take priority over the other? Equal rights can be achieved while sustaining the economy. This thread is rather pointless.

[Great Yorkshire]

You do realize that greed is a form of love, right?

Oh please... love for a very material and soul-free thing, a form of love pffft... oh well.... maybe if you're Scrooge McDuck, of course!

It's the love that dare not speak it's name... especially on a tax return.

[Adafdfadfasdf]

Why does one need to take priority over the other? Equal rights can be achieved while sustaining the economy. This thread is rather pointless.

The argument is a red herring designed by people opposed to equal rights for all people.

[Abatael]

If they oppose, they focus on it. If they aren't focusing on it, they aren't opposing it, as they are not paying any form of attention to it.

If they pass, or repeal legislation concerning it, they are focusing on it. If they oppose it, they are focusing on it. If they do not pay any form of attention to it, they are not focusing on it.

Edit: Focus = paying attention to it
No focus = not paying attention to it

I can tell this is probably just going to go around in circles, but I'll give it one more shot.

Let's just use issue "A" and issue "B", so you're not emotionally attached to it.

Person 1 thinks that issue "A" should be passed. Person 2 hates the idea of issue "A" being passed, and says that we need to discuss issue "B". Person one really thinks that issue "A" is at least as important is issue "B". If person 2 would stop focusing on issue "A", and let it pass, then they could focus on issue "B".

By opposing issue "A", person two is focusing on it. If they would cede the issue to person 1, they wouldn't be focusing on it. It's pretty simple, actually.

To let it pass, they would have to vote for it, or at the very least, vote to abstain. If they vote for it, they are focusing on it; if they vote to abstain, then they are removing themselves from it, which you could say is not focusing on it, but you never specifically said "vote to abstain," so it's not wrong of me to fill in the absences of information.

Edit: To your edit, if you read my post, you would see that I said, "If they oppose they focus on it."

[Great Yorkshire]

Why does one need to take priority over the other? Equal rights can be achieved while sustaining the economy. This thread is rather pointless.

In one of his many desperate attempts to look cool, David Cameron after his local election arsewhooping shelved plans to legalise gay marriage claiming the drubbing was a message that he needed to focus on the economy and more core tory policy... so maybe some people are stupid enough to actually believe that fighting for civil rights puts other things on the backburner.

[Ovisterra]

Who says we have to choose? Can't we have both? Giving gays equal rights should be the work of five minutes if those in government have any sense.

[Adafdfadfasdf]

I can tell this is probably just going to go around in circles, but I'll give it one more shot.

Let's just use issue "A" and issue "B", so you're not emotionally attached to it.

Person 1 thinks that issue "A" should be passed. Person 2 hates the idea of issue "A" being passed, and says that we need to discuss issue "B". Person one really thinks that issue "A" is at least as important is issue "B". If person 2 would stop focusing on issue "A", and let it pass, then they could focus on issue "B".

By opposing issue "A", person two is focusing on it. If they would cede the issue to person 1, they wouldn't be focusing on it. It's pretty simple, actually.

To let it pass, they would have to vote for it, or at the very least, vote to abstain. If they vote for it, they are focusing on it; if they vote to abstain, then they are removing themselves from it, which you could say is not focusing on it, but you never specifically said "vote to abstain," so it's not wrong of me to fill in the absences of information.

Edit: To your edit, if you read my post, you would see that I said, "If they oppose they focus on it."

One more time. I'll make this really simple:

Simply voting "yes" on something is not focusing on it.

[Saiwania]

Equal rights for homosexuals and the economy should go hand in hand, one doesn't really effect the other. That said, I care more about economic issues; but that is not to say that I wouldn't be for allowing gays to have marriages.