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Postby Milks Empire » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:36 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Miss Defied wrote:Or having sex with the boss. And being a disappointment!
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Is that personal experience then? ;) :p

AQed! :rofl:

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Postby Miss Defied » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:36 pm

The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
Miss Defied wrote:
When someone is fired for their religious beliefs (Hindu/Wiccan/Christian whatever)
A person is turned down for a auto loan because of their skin color.
A person is refused as a applicant for an apartment because they are foreign.

Seriously I could go on for days. But I don't want to waste my time. If you want to go through life believing that to be true, be my guest.


I think is someone wants to fire a good employee from their business, they should be allowed to crash their own business and bankrupt themselves. Companies that act irrationally don't survive if they keep it up.

Doesn't change the fact that it's a civil rights violation.
That didnt involve force.
And wasn't at the hands of the state.
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Postby Veladio » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:36 pm

The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
Miss Defied wrote:
When someone is fired for their religious beliefs (Hindu/Wiccan/Christian whatever)
A person is turned down for a auto loan because of their skin color.
A person is refused as a applicant for an apartment because they are foreign.

Seriously I could go on for days. But I don't want to waste my time. If you want to go through life believing that to be true, be my guest.


I think is someone wants to fire a good employee from their business, they should be allowed to crash their own business and bankrupt themselves. Companies that act irrationally don't survive if they keep it up.

Thats fucking bullshit. A company has no right to fire me because of my beliefs, etc. That is called DISCRIMINATION
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Social Libertarian (could care less about Economics, there are people who are more educated at it, so it is a waste of time to try and debate me on it.). As stated above I am a Wiccan, and I find solidarity with the Egyptian Deities. I support government secularization as well as complete freedom of religion, as I believe that to truly be secular, the state must respect all beliefs, and favor none. And I recently enlisted in the United States Navy.

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Postby Genivaria » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:36 pm

The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
Miss Defied wrote:
When someone is fired for their religious beliefs (Hindu/Wiccan/Christian whatever)
A person is turned down for a auto loan because of their skin color.
A person is refused as a applicant for an apartment because they are foreign.

Seriously I could go on for days. But I don't want to waste my time. If you want to go through life believing that to be true, be my guest.


I think is someone wants to fire a good employee from their business, they should be allowed to crash their own business and bankrupt themselves. Companies that act irrationally don't survive if they keep it up.

So you support corporate Discrimination, got it.
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Postby The Mongol Ilkhanate » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:37 pm

Veladio wrote:
The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
I think is someone wants to fire a good employee from their business, they should be allowed to crash their own business and bankrupt themselves. Companies that act irrationally don't survive if they keep it up.

Thats fucking bullshit. A company has no right to fire me because of my beliefs, etc. That is called DISCRIMINATION


Yeah. It's their money. If they want to lose it by firing a good employee, or denying a customer base, they should be allowed to.

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Postby Miss Defied » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:37 pm

Milks Empire wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Is that personal experience then? ;) :p

AQed! :rofl:

The kid promised I would be completely satisfied if I hired him.
He lied.
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Postby The Mongol Ilkhanate » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:38 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
I think is someone wants to fire a good employee from their business, they should be allowed to crash their own business and bankrupt themselves. Companies that act irrationally don't survive if they keep it up.

So you support corporate Discrimination, got it.


I don't support it, I just don't make it illegal.

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Postby Miss Defied » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:38 pm

The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
Veladio wrote:Thats fucking bullshit. A company has no right to fire me because of my beliefs, etc. That is called DISCRIMINATION


Yeah. It's their money. If they want to lose it by firing a good employee, or denying a customer base, they should be allowed to.

But they aren't. So it's a violation of people's civil rights.
Without force, I remind you.
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Postby Milks Empire » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:38 pm

Miss Defied wrote:
Milks Empire wrote:AQed! :rofl:

The kid promised I would be completely satisfied if I hired him.
He lied.
:twisted:

:rofl:

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Postby The Mongol Ilkhanate » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:39 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
I think is someone wants to fire a good employee from their business, they should be allowed to crash their own business and bankrupt themselves. Companies that act irrationally don't survive if they keep it up.

So you support corporate Discrimination, got it.


Do you support conservatism by not outlawing it?

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Postby Genivaria » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:39 pm

The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
Veladio wrote:Thats fucking bullshit. A company has no right to fire me because of my beliefs, etc. That is called DISCRIMINATION


Yeah. It's their money. If they want to lose it by firing a good employee, or denying a customer base, they should be allowed to.

I assure you that they are not being damaged anywhere near the amount that the guy who gets denied an income is.
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Postby Genivaria » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:39 pm

The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
Genivaria wrote:So you support corporate Discrimination, got it.


Do you support conservatism by not outlawing it?

What?
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Postby Wamitoria » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:39 pm

The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
Genivaria wrote:So you support corporate Discrimination, got it.


I don't support it, just don't make it illegal.

You do realize what route you go down when you start making these arguments, right?

Some bigot right after the killing of Joseph Smith wrote:I don't support the lynching of Mormons, but I just don't want the state to make it illegal.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:40 pm

Miss Defied wrote:
Milks Empire wrote:AQed! :rofl:

The kid promised I would be completely satisfied if I hired him.
He lied.
:twisted:

Do I want to know what your profession is? :p
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Postby The Mongol Ilkhanate » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:40 pm

Miss Defied wrote:
The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
Yeah. It's their money. If they want to lose it by firing a good employee, or denying a customer base, they should be allowed to.

But they aren't. So it's a violation of people's civil rights.
Without force, I remind you.


They aren't, for a dumb reason.

here's an example.

Two diners open up, one is white's only, one is integrated.

Integrated and white's only fight over white consumer base, while integrated gets everyone who isn't white. The integrated one makes money, while the racist one loses it, and goes out of business.

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Postby Veladio » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:40 pm

The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
Genivaria wrote:So you support corporate Discrimination, got it.


I don't support it, I just don't make it illegal.

...thats supporting it. Thats like watching somebody get beat up and not reporting it. Trust me...it DOES NOT give you ANY fucking moral credit.
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Postby The Mongol Ilkhanate » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:41 pm

Wamitoria wrote:
The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
I don't support it, just don't make it illegal.

You do realize what route you go down when you start making these arguments, right?

Some bigot right after the killing of Joseph Smith wrote:I don't support the lynching of Mormons, but I just don't want the state to make it illegal.


Lynching is using force. That's wrong, and it's murder.

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Postby The Mongol Ilkhanate » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:41 pm

Veladio wrote:
The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
I don't support it, I just don't make it illegal.

...thats supporting it. Thats like watching somebody get beat up and not reporting it. Trust me...it DOES NOT give you ANY fucking moral credit.


So you support Conservatism and you support the Catholic Church by not outlawing it?

Welcome aboard?

I think the word is...."tolerate"
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Postby Miss Defied » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:42 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Miss Defied wrote:The kid promised I would be completely satisfied if I hired him.
He lied.
:twisted:

Do I want to know what your profession is? :p

Why, are you looking for a job? ;)
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Postby Genivaria » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:42 pm

The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
Veladio wrote:...thats supporting it. Thats like watching somebody get beat up and not reporting it. Trust me...it DOES NOT give you ANY fucking moral credit.


So you support Conservatism and you support the Catholic Church by not outlawing it?

Welcome aboard?

I think the word is...."tolerate"

No really, what the fuck are you talking about?
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Postby Veladio » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:42 pm

The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
Veladio wrote:...thats supporting it. Thats like watching somebody get beat up and not reporting it. Trust me...it DOES NOT give you ANY fucking moral credit.


So you support Conservatism and you support the Catholic Church by not outlawing it?

Welcome aboard?

I think the word is...."tolerate"

I support tossing child molesting priests into federal prison if that's what your asking.
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Postby Genivaria » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:43 pm

Miss Defied wrote:
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Do I want to know what your profession is? :p

Why, are you looking for a job? ;)

I am. Actively.
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Postby Wamitoria » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:43 pm

The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
Wamitoria wrote:You do realize what route you go down when you start making these arguments, right?



Lynching is using force. That's wrong, and it's murder.

If a man has the right to ban black people from coming into his shop, he's using force, as he could easily contact the police to remove a black man from his shop.
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Postby Silent Majority » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:43 pm

Miss Defied wrote:
The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
Yeah. It's their money. If they want to lose it by firing a good employee, or denying a customer base, they should be allowed to.

But they aren't. So it's a violation of people's civil rights.
Without force, I remind you.


I'm still not convinced that is without force. Using your authority as a business owner to deny someone access to a potentially essential service because of their race/religion/political views/sexual orientation strikes me as a use of force. In this case The power inherent with being a business owner: the control of a set of resources.
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Postby The Mongol Ilkhanate » Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:43 pm

Veladio wrote:
The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
So you support Conservatism and you support the Catholic Church by not outlawing it?

Welcome aboard?

I think the word is...."tolerate"

I support tossing child molesting priests into federal prison if that's what your asking.


Subject change.

You said if you don't outlaw it, you support it. You aren't outlawing the Catholic church. Therefore, you support it. You don't outlaw conservatism, therefore, you are Conservative.

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