GOP rep discovers terrifying fact: That non-Christians exist

[Miss Defied]

-Implying that private schools don't violate civil rights.

In order to violate civil rights, you have to be:

1. The state
2. Using force.

Private schools fit neither condition.

Seriously? Where do you get this from?

[Rupture Farms co]

All of those things are achieved by the individual, the state is an entity.

Without some form of government how are any of those things achieved?

No, what I am saying is individuals make those things happen, not a collective.

[The UK in Exile]

In order to violate civil rights, you have to be:

1. The state
2. Using force.

Private schools fit neither condition.

Seriously? Where do you get this from?

1950's america of course!

[Genivaria]

Without some form of government how are any of those things achieved?

No, what I am saying is individuals make those things happen, not a collective.

And what is a collective if not a group of individuals?

[Cannot think of a name]

Without some form of government how are any of those things achieved?

No, what I am saying is individuals make those things happen, not a collective.

Yeah, but the Playstations that hermits make suck. Mostly just mud and twigs and a frog that if you poke it croaks...I think that's supposed to mean it's 'on', but that's kind of all it does.

[Rupture Farms co]

No, what I am saying is individuals make those things happen, not a collective.

And what is a collective if not a group of individuals?

What the state thinks everyone is and thus should decide things for them.

[Genivaria]

And what is a collective if not a group of individuals?

What the state thinks everyone is and thus should decide things for them.

What?

[United Provinces of Conservatism]

Louisiana is really gunning for stupidest state, isn't it?

I don't know, it's got some pretty strong competition.

Nebraska had won deemed by the fact a police officer arrested Barack Obama because he was an illegal immagrint.

If police officers are supposed to be the ones to protect us from the stupid, we're screwed.

[Rupture Farms co]

What the state thinks everyone is and thus should decide things for them.

What?

The state likes to think we're all the same and stupid, thus they should decide things for us.

[The UK in Exile]

What?

The state likes to think we're all the same and stupid, thus they should decide things for us.

some times it has a point.

[AiliailiA]

Bullshit.

The state is evil.

If that's not trolling, then make a thread about it.

[Malgrave]

Really? Why do US politicians have the continued idiotic idea that the United States was founded as a Christian nation when this was clearly not the case. I mean i'm from the United Kingdom and I know this is not true! Why does some supposed patriot not know the basic facts surrounding the foundation of the country they claim to love so much.

[The Mongol Ilkhanate]

In order to violate civil rights, you have to be:

1. The state
2. Using force.

Private schools fit neither condition.

Seriously? Where do you get this from?

Because only the State can legally use force except in certain circumstances, and to violate civil rights you have to use force.

[Divair]

Really? Why do US politicians have the continued idiotic idea that the United States was founded as a Christian nation when this was clearly not the case. I mean i'm from the United Kingdom and I know this is not true! Why does some supposed patriot not know the basic facts surrounding the foundation of the country they claim to love so much.

The irony is that a lot of countries founded and centered around a religion now end up being more secular than the USA.

[Cannot think of a name]

I don't know, it's got some pretty strong competition.

Nebraska had won deemed by the fact a police officer arrested Barack Obama because he was an illegal immagrint.

Wait, what now?

[Malgrave]

Really? Why do US politicians have the continued idiotic idea that the United States was founded as a Christian nation when this was clearly not the case. I mean i'm from the United Kingdom and I know this is not true! Why does some supposed patriot not know the basic facts surrounding the foundation of the country they claim to love so much.

The irony is that a lot of countries founded and centered around a religion now end up being more secular than the USA.

Proud to live in one of those strangely secular religious countries.

[Genivaria]

Seriously? Where do you get this from?

Because only the State can legally use force except in certain circumstances, and to violate civil rights you have to use force.

I like how you threw that in. Kind of invalidates what you say before that.

[Genivaria]

What?

The state likes to think we're all the same and stupid, thus they should decide things for us.

You ARE aware that a member of 'the people' can run for office right?

[AiliailiA]

Schools should be private but with nominal federal control to make sure rights are not infringed upon.

Did you know that only 11% of K-12 students are in private education?

So when you say "schools should be private" you're proposing to apply a model which works for 11%, to over 90%. Such a massive change needs a good reason ... "the state is evil" is NOT a good reason.

[Raeyh]

Really? Why do US politicians have the continued idiotic idea that the United States was founded as a Christian nation when this was clearly not the case. I mean i'm from the United Kingdom and I know this is not true! Why does some supposed patriot not know the basic facts surrounding the foundation of the country they claim to love so much.

The irony is that a lot of countries founded and centered around a religion now end up being more secular than the USA.

Some of the states were founded around a religion, though, namely Maryland and Catholicism.

[Wamitoria]

What?

The state likes to think we're all the same and stupid, thus they should decide things for us.

Or rather, the people that make up the state think that you're greedy and more likely to refuse to do the right thing if they give you a choice. So they restrict your ability to make egregiously wrong choices, like dumping hazardous waste in a lake.

[Wamitoria]

The irony is that a lot of countries founded and centered around a religion now end up being more secular than the USA.

Some of the states were founded around a religion, though, namely Maryland and Catholicism.

And Pennsylvania and Quakers. They're still pretty religious though.

[AiliailiA]

Nebraska had won deemed by the fact a police officer arrested Barack Obama because he was an illegal immagrint.

Wait, what now?

Iirc, it was a police officer going all Birther on Youtube. He was wearing his uniform, which is a bit off, but he was off-duty and not speaking in an official capacity. I wouldn't worry too much about it.

[R Ev0lution]

Seriously? Where do you get this from?

Because only the State can legally use force except in certain circumstances, and to violate civil rights you have to use force.

If you think that the only cases in which civil rights have been violated are the ones which involve the state and violence, then you have an incredibly incomplete understanding of history.

[Miss Defied]

Seriously? Where do you get this from?

Because only the State can legally use force except in certain circumstances, and to violate civil rights you have to use force.

No. Force is not necessary to violate civil rights. No. Just. No.
LOL what are you reading that makes you think this is so?