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Postby Frisivisia » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:31 pm

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Frisivisia wrote:Well, that would be grave robbing, and that's terrible.


It's in the Holy Scripture of Atheism. Doesn't that always get us a free pass to do silly things?

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See, Mongol agrees with my practices and recognizes it's basis in love and tolerance.

Holy scripture of Atheism is an oxymoron unto itself. I don't think religion should give you a pass to do illegal things. Suicide isn't illegal, is it?
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Postby Trotskylvania » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:33 pm

The holy scriptures of atheism are written on the back of a napkin that's been soiled with the drippings of beef stroganoff and coffee rings at a greasy spoon diner somewhere in Chicago's south side.
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Postby The Mongol Ilkhanate » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:35 pm

See, Mongol agrees with my practices and recognizes it's basis in love and tolerance.


You'd seem much wittier if you used the correct form of "its"

Beyond the point, it was sarcasm.

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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:36 pm

Frisivisia wrote:Holy scripture of Atheism is an oxymoron unto itself. I don't think religion should give you a pass to do illegal things. Suicide isn't illegal, is it?


Um, in some places it is, which is really stupid.
Trotskylvania wrote:The holy scriptures of atheism are written on the back of a napkin that's been soiled with the drippings of beef stroganoff and coffee rings at a greasy spoon diner somewhere in Chicago's south side.

Why do you keep telling everyone our secrets?
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:36 pm

New Chalcedon wrote:- The presumptive nominee of the Republican Party, Mitt Romney, is so evangelical that he attempted to convert someone to Mormnism after they had died.

That's actually a standard Mormon thing.
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Postby Maurepas » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:38 pm

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New Chalcedon wrote:- The presumptive nominee of the Republican Party, Mitt Romney, is so evangelical that he attempted to convert someone to Mormnism after they had died.

That's actually a standard Mormon thing.

Does that make it any less of a disgusting practice?

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Postby Veladio » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:38 pm

Was the post-mortem conversion done to a person who was willing to convert in life? Or was he part of a mormon family? Or do they just do that to any old average joe?
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Postby The Mongol Ilkhanate » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:40 pm

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Wikkiwallana wrote:That's actually a standard Mormon thing.

Does that make it any less of a disgusting practice?



You realize we don't actually go graverobbing, right? We just say, "Brother so and so, having been commissioned of Jesus Christ I baptize you for and in behalf of X, who is dead, in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, Amen."

Then, in the afterlife, X can decide if he wants to join. There's no compulsion. Wouldn't it be more disgusting if our religion said "HEY! EVERYONE WHO DIED NEVER HEARING ABOUT THE GOSPEL. SUCKS TO BE YOU. NO HEAVEN FOR YOU"

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Postby The Mongol Ilkhanate » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:41 pm

Veladio wrote:Was the post-mortem conversion done to a person who was willing to convert in life? Or was he part of a mormon family? Or do they just do that to any old average joe?


It wasn't a conversion. They offered the guy in the afterlife a chance to be converted, if he accepted it or not on the other side is on him.

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Postby Wikkiwallana » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:42 pm

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More seriously:

- The last Republican President (George Bush) was a great friend to theocrats America-wide, opening the Treasury's doors for them to proselytize and browbeat people into converting as the price of getting basic social assistance.

- The Texas Republican Party's platform for 2012 opposes the teaching of critical thinking skills, claiming that the "have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority". The TX GOP's platform also notes that every Republican in Texas is responsible for promulgating the platform. Now, I'm sure that you don't need these dots connected, but others might: criticial thinking is the worst enemy of theocracy - a population that thinks for itself is one that doesn't obey the priests.

- The presumptive nominee of the Republican Party, Mitt Romney, is so evangelical that he attempted to convert someone to Mormnism after they had died.

- The South Dakota Republican-dominated legislature has demanded that any woman seeking an abortion must first go through three days of proselytization by anti-choice, Christian fundamentalist "counsellors".

How many more examples do you need? I can provide as many as you want, given the time to do the typing. The Republican Party is about imposing Christianity - specifically, their narrow-minded, intolerant version of Christianity - onto America's public discourse with or without America's consent. They are a theocratic party.


1. Aclu and daily mail are heavily biased sources.
2. Once again, go check the definition of theocracy.
3. Conveniently, your strongest critiscm (critical thinking) lacks any sources.
4. Your South Dakota source (from the ACLU, NO LESS) mentions nothing about religion or proselyting. So you're fundamentally dishonest.

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Postby Frisivisia » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:42 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:That's actually a standard Mormon thing.

Does that make it any less of a disgusting practice?

Looney? Yes. Stupid as fuck? Yes. Disgusting? Eh, dunno, not really.
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Postby Goldwateria (Ancient) » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:42 pm

Trotskylvania wrote:The holy scriptures of atheism are written on the back of a napkin that's been soiled with the drippings of beef stroganoff and coffee rings at a greasy spoon diner somewhere in Chicago's south side.

Wait a minute!

Atheists drink coffee with beef stroganoff? What kind of unholy satanic taste buds make THAT a winning combination?
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Postby Veladio » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:43 pm

The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
Maurepas wrote:Does that make it any less of a disgusting practice?



You realize we don't actually go graverobbing, right? We just say, "Brother so and so, having been commissioned of Jesus Christ I baptize you for and in behalf of X, who is dead, in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, Amen."

Then, in the afterlife, X can decide if he wants to join. There's no compulsion. Wouldn't it be more disgusting if our religion said "HEY! EVERYONE WHO DIED NEVER HEARING ABOUT THE GOSPEL. SUCKS TO BE YOU. NO HEAVEN FOR YOU"

Or to someone, like me, who is a wiccan, who believes that thoughts and prayers can have an affect on our will...I would ask dear ol' mitt to refrain from doing that to me if he had the chance.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:44 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Wikkiwallana wrote:That's actually a standard Mormon thing.

Does that make it any less of a disgusting practice?

No, but it's not fair to blame the party for it, they certainly didn't put him up to it.
The rest were valid criticisms, however.
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Postby Maurepas » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:45 pm

The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
Maurepas wrote:Does that make it any less of a disgusting practice?



You realize we don't actually go graverobbing, right? We just say, "Brother so and so, having been commissioned of Jesus Christ I baptize you for and in behalf of X, who is dead, in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, Amen."

Then, in the afterlife, X can decide if he wants to join. There's no compulsion. Wouldn't it be more disgusting if our religion said "HEY! EVERYONE WHO DIED NEVER HEARING ABOUT THE GOSPEL. SUCKS TO BE YOU. NO HEAVEN FOR YOU"

No, it wouldn't be more disgusting that way. It's not your place to consecrate a body that doesn't belong to your religion.

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Postby Frisivisia » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:45 pm

Maurepas wrote:
The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:

You realize we don't actually go graverobbing, right? We just say, "Brother so and so, having been commissioned of Jesus Christ I baptize you for and in behalf of X, who is dead, in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, Amen."

Then, in the afterlife, X can decide if he wants to join. There's no compulsion. Wouldn't it be more disgusting if our religion said "HEY! EVERYONE WHO DIED NEVER HEARING ABOUT THE GOSPEL. SUCKS TO BE YOU. NO HEAVEN FOR YOU"

No, it wouldn't be more disgusting that way. It's not your place to consecrate a body that doesn't belong to your religion.

Not a body, a "soul".
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Postby Maurepas » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:46 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Maurepas wrote:No, it wouldn't be more disgusting that way. It's not your place to consecrate a body that doesn't belong to your religion.

Not a body, a "soul".

Same difference. Whatever you want to call it, the former person in question was not part of your religion, so you should stay out of their affairs.

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Postby Gauthier » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:46 pm

The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
Maurepas wrote:Does that make it any less of a disgusting practice?



You realize we don't actually go graverobbing, right? We just say, "Brother so and so, having been commissioned of Jesus Christ I baptize you for and in behalf of X, who is dead, in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, Amen."

Then, in the afterlife, X can decide if he wants to join. There's no compulsion. Wouldn't it be more disgusting if our religion said "HEY! EVERYONE WHO DIED NEVER HEARING ABOUT THE GOSPEL. SUCKS TO BE YOU. NO HEAVEN FOR YOU"


And doing it to Holocaust victims makes it sooo classy.
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Postby Wikkiwallana » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:47 pm

The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:
Maurepas wrote:Does that make it any less of a disgusting practice?



You realize we don't actually go graverobbing, right? We just say, "Brother so and so, having been commissioned of Jesus Christ I baptize you for and in behalf of X, who is dead, in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, Amen."

Then, in the afterlife, X can decide if he wants to join. There's no compulsion. Wouldn't it be more disgusting if our religion said "HEY! EVERYONE WHO DIED NEVER HEARING ABOUT THE GOSPEL. SUCKS TO BE YOU. NO HEAVEN FOR YOU"

And if it was limited to being practiced only on those who likely never heard the gospel, it might almost be tolerable. The tendency to do it on every nameable dead person ever who wasn't a Mormon in life is completely ridiculous.
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Postby Trotskylvania » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:47 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Holy scripture of Atheism is an oxymoron unto itself. I don't think religion should give you a pass to do illegal things. Suicide isn't illegal, is it?


Um, in some places it is, which is really stupid.
Trotskylvania wrote:The holy scriptures of atheism are written on the back of a napkin that's been soiled with the drippings of beef stroganoff and coffee rings at a greasy spoon diner somewhere in Chicago's south side.

Why do you keep telling everyone our secrets?

Because no one will believe them. Just like the UFO nutters. They're actually controlled by the grays, and are paid to do this so that we won't believe it, because only crazy people believe in that. Meanwhile, they can gently slide that anal probe up our unprepared posterior in our sleep.
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Postby Frisivisia » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:47 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:Not a body, a "soul".

Same difference. Whatever you want to call it, the former person in question was not part of your religion, so you should stay out of their affairs.

I agree, I don't support baptism for the dead, just attempting to clarify, not as many people on here are as familiar with the LDS Faith and Church as I am.
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Postby The Mongol Ilkhanate » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:49 pm

Wikkiwallana wrote:
The Mongol Ilkhanate wrote:

You realize we don't actually go graverobbing, right? We just say, "Brother so and so, having been commissioned of Jesus Christ I baptize you for and in behalf of X, who is dead, in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, Amen."

Then, in the afterlife, X can decide if he wants to join. There's no compulsion. Wouldn't it be more disgusting if our religion said "HEY! EVERYONE WHO DIED NEVER HEARING ABOUT THE GOSPEL. SUCKS TO BE YOU. NO HEAVEN FOR YOU"

And if it was limited to being practiced only on those who likely never heard the gospel, it might almost be tolerable. The tendency to do it on every nameable dead person ever who wasn't a Mormon in life is completely ridiculous.


I'd like every to take note of the fact he's admitted he's being intolerant at the moment.

Is it any more offensive than me saying "Hey brah, wanna join the church?" No. There's no compulsion.

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Postby Trotskylvania » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:49 pm

Goldwateria wrote:
Trotskylvania wrote:The holy scriptures of atheism are written on the back of a napkin that's been soiled with the drippings of beef stroganoff and coffee rings at a greasy spoon diner somewhere in Chicago's south side.

Wait a minute!

Atheists drink coffee with beef stroganoff? What kind of unholy satanic taste buds make THAT a winning combination?

Your God-bedraggled taste buds have made you into a philistine hmpf
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Postby Mavorpen » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:50 pm

Trotskylvania wrote:Because no one will believe them. Just like the UFO nutters. They're actually controlled by the grays, and are paid to do this so that we won't believe it, because only crazy people believe in that. Meanwhile, they can gently slide that anal probe up your unprepared posterior in our sleep.


Fixed. My posterior is always prepared.
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Postby Frisivisia » Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:51 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Trotskylvania wrote:Because no one will believe them. Just like the UFO nutters. They're actually controlled by the grays, and are paid to do this so that we won't believe it, because only crazy people believe in that. Meanwhile, they can gently slide that anal probe up your unprepared posterior in our sleep.


Fixed. My posterior is always prepared.

My body is ready. :D
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