GOP rep discovers terrifying fact: That non-Christians exist

[The Mongol Ilkhanate]

I for one find the irony in this whole situation very hilarious. Saying Sarah Palin is stupid while not knowing that Alaska has islands...

Is there a generalization coming here?

No, just laughing at that guy.

[Chyeknovostan Republic]

Where the heck did you learn geography from??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleutian_Islands

I for one find the irony in this whole situation very hilarious. Saying Sarah Palin is stupid while not knowing that Alaska has islands...

Who are you referring to if I may ask?

[The Mongol Ilkhanate]

I for one find the irony in this whole situation very hilarious. Saying Sarah Palin is stupid while not knowing that Alaska has islands...

Who are you referring to if I may ask?

David Williams.

[The UK in Exile]

Where the heck did you learn geography from??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleutian_Islands

I for one find the irony in this whole situation very hilarious. Saying Sarah Palin is stupid while not knowing that Alaska has islands...

Which shall know every man the plague of his own heart.

[Frisivisia]

Is there a generalization coming here?

No, just laughing at that guy.

lol What a dumbass, right?

[Chyeknovostan Republic]

Who are you referring to if I may ask?

David Williams.

Ah, Well I've been in threads with his arguments before....not exactly kosher arguments either

[Chyeknovostan Republic]

I for one find the irony in this whole situation very hilarious. Saying Sarah Palin is stupid while not knowing that Alaska has islands...

Which shall know every man the plague of his own heart.

Good thing I don't have a heart huh?

[New Chalcedon]

In theory...yes it is a GREAT idea but as Wikkiwallana said, there are other players that the establishment doesn't like. Unless everyone is given equal opportunity, regardless of religious affiliation, etc. Then vouchers are a bad idea

I'm in favor of equal opportunity. If the Govt must pay for education, let parents decide what's best for the child.

The two sentences of your post have no relation to each other.

Equal opportunity =/= parental choice - indeed, the two can sometimes be diametrically opposed, such as if rich people were forced to send their kids to -gasp!- public schools. Every kid, then, would have equal opportunity provided by the State, but at the expense of parental choice. I'm heavily in favour of the first, but only mildly supportive of the second.

After all, should parents be permitted to forcibly convert their kids to <insert religion here>? Should they be permitted to sendtheir kids to a charter school which teaches demonstrable untruths, such as the charter school which uses the "existance" of the Loch Ness monster to "prove" that creationism is scientifically true?

Of course they shouldn't. And yet, the second is exactly what Louisiana's charter school system is allowing parents to do.

Vouchers are good, using fundie schools to take that away is ridiculous. With vouchers, BAD schools with bad teachers lose money, while good schools with good teachers gain money.

Of course. And of course, we also know that factors outside the classroom don't affect learning one bit, nosiree. We don't know, for instance, that kids who have to go to an 8 hour work shift right after school will learn less well than those who get to learn at home in the company of a private tutor. Or that kids from economically-disadvantages areas are likelier to suffer one form or another of abuse from their caregivers. Or any of a hundred other factors that are completely outsidethe school's/teacher's control.

We know none of that, so let's just blame the lazy public schools/teachers. So much easier.

The Republican party has become the Theocratic party. What else is new?

Generalizations. So fun.

OH! OH! OH! LEMME TRI.

DEMOCRAPS (hurr, I said crap) WANNA EAT TEH BABIEZ CUZ DEY PUTZ DA BABEH IN DA ZINK AND FLUSH IT DOWN. RON PAUL 2012.

Well done. You have mastered Tea Party Rhetoric 101.

More seriously:

- The last Republican President (George Bush) was a great friend to theocrats America-wide, opening the Treasury's doors for them to proselytize and browbeat people into converting as the price of getting basic social assistance.

- The Texas Republican Party's platform for 2012 opposes the teaching of critical thinking skills, claiming that the "have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority". The TX GOP's platform also notes that every Republican in Texas is responsible for promulgating the platform. Now, I'm sure that you don't need these dots connected, but others might: criticial thinking is the worst enemy of theocracy - a population that thinks for itself is one that doesn't obey the priests.

- The presumptive nominee of the Republican Party, Mitt Romney, is so evangelical that he attempted to convert someone to Mormnism after they had died.

- The South Dakota Republican-dominated legislature has demanded that any woman seeking an abortion must first go through three days of proselytization by anti-choice, Christian fundamentalist "counsellors".

How many more examples do you need? I can provide as many as you want, given the time to do the typing. The Republican Party is about imposing Christianity - specifically, their narrow-minded, intolerant version of Christianity - onto America's public discourse with or without America's consent. They are a theocratic party.

[David Williams]

Fuck how did this thread get derailed into a debate about geography

Ok what happened is someone put down a post that suggested Palin thinks Alaska is an island, and I don't challenge people's credibility too easy.
I reacted to this with a post.
This happens to not be true, and I accepted that, but I refuse to take responsibility for "spreading bullshit".

Get over it, someone made a post with incorrect information and I wasn't going to challenge it, take it up with the person who made the post in the first place

[The Mongol Ilkhanate]

Of course. And of course, we also know that factors outside the classroom don't affect learning one bit, nosiree. We don't know, for instance, that kids who have to go to an 8 hour work shift right after school will learn less well than those who get to learn at home in the company of a private tutor. Or that kids from economically-disadvantages areas are likelier to suffer one form or another of abuse from their caregivers. Or any of a hundred other factors that are completely outsidethe school's/teacher's control.

We know none of that, so let's just blame the lazy public schools/teachers. So much easier.

Just go watch Waiting for Superman. It'll instruct you more thoroughly than I can.

[Mavorpen]

Just go watch Waiting for Superman. It'll instruct you more thoroughly than I can.

I couldn't even get through that whole movie.

[The Mongol Ilkhanate]

- The presumptive nominee of the Republican Party, Mitt Romney, is so evangelical that he attempted to convert someone to Mormnism after they had died.

As a Mormon, I know you're misconstruing what baptism for the dead really is. It gives them the opportunity to join in the next life, it doesn't auto make them a member.

[Frisivisia]

- The presumptive nominee of the Republican Party, Mitt Romney, is so evangelical that he attempted to convert someone to Mormnism after they had died.

As a Mormon, I know you're misconstruing what baptism for the dead really is. It gives them the opportunity to join in the next life, it doesn't auto make them a member.

As someone who lives around a large population of Mormons, and has understood Mormon culture from a young age, I think that it's kinda creepy, but not nearly as creepy as people think.

[Mavorpen]

- The presumptive nominee of the Republican Party, Mitt Romney, is so evangelical that he attempted to convert someone to Mormnism after they had died.

As a Mormon, I know you're misconstruing what baptism for the dead really is. It gives them the opportunity to join in the next life, it doesn't auto make them a member.

So what happens if in the night, I take a Mormon's dead body and preform an anti-baptism ritual on them?

[Frisivisia]

As a Mormon, I know you're misconstruing what baptism for the dead really is. It gives them the opportunity to join in the next life, it doesn't auto make them a member.

So what happens if in the night, I take a Mormon's dead body and preform an anti-baptism ritual on them?

You don't actually use corpses, that's a very common misconception.

[Gauthier]

- The presumptive nominee of the Republican Party, Mitt Romney, is so evangelical that he attempted to convert someone to Mormnism after they had died.

As a Mormon, I know you're misconstruing what baptism for the dead really is. It gives them the opportunity to join in the next life, it doesn't auto make them a member.

Why don't you explain that to the Jews then?

[Chyeknovostan Republic]

:palm:
Fuck how did this thread get derailed into a debate about geography

Ok what happened is someone put down a post that suggested Palin thinks Alaska is an island, and I don't challenge people's credibility too easy.
I reacted to this with a post.
This happens to not be true, and I accepted that, but I refuse to take responsibility for "spreading bullshit".

Get over it, someone made a post with incorrect information and I wasn't going to challenge it, take it up with the person who made the post in the first place

Funny thing is, I never mentioned Alaska was an Island, for two I said she'd have to be standing on the coast if she could really see us from Alaska, and three when you're talking of Alaska that usually encompasses the whole including the islands. Someone corrected me that she didn't directly say she could see Russia, but never once said the entire state was an island that'd be no more stupid, and absurd than Palin's and the rest of the American government's idiocy. So pipe down will ya? Before you get your britches in a knot

Anyways, thread did get derailed, so in light of propping the train on the tracks again, I find it to be religious discrimination to not allow 'radical' Muslim schools to receive funding. Another thing is her disregard of history, and the American constitution, the founding fathers were deist, and they stated that America was not founded on the basis of Christianity, the constitution also recognizes the right to free religion but by denying muslim schools to get funding, is in my opinion violating that right.

[Mavorpen]

So what happens if in the night, I take a Mormon's dead body and preform an anti-baptism ritual on them?

You don't actually use corpses, that's a very common misconception.

What? I didn't say Mormons use corpses. Using a corpse would ensure better results for the anti-baptism ritual. You know, because the corpse is actually there, and it exists.

[Wikkiwallana]

Why can't lawmakers keep to the constitution they run by? Keep public learning facilities for learning information, not brainwashing your religious beliefs on kids who are impressionable.

First ammendment: Freedom of the press, speech, expression, and religion.

Right, the kids have the right to find their own religion or lack thereof, rather than having a "school" indoctrinate them with lies.

[Frisivisia]

You don't actually use corpses, that's a very common misconception.

What? I didn't say Mormons use corpses. Using a corpse would ensure better results for the anti-baptism ritual. You know, because the corpse is actually there, and it exists.

Well, that would be grave robbing, and that's terrible.

[The Mongol Ilkhanate]

More seriously:

- The last Republican President (George Bush) was a great friend to theocrats America-wide, opening the Treasury's doors for them to proselytize and browbeat people into converting as the price of getting basic social assistance.

- The Texas Republican Party's platform for 2012 opposes the teaching of critical thinking skills, claiming that the "have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority". The TX GOP's platform also notes that every Republican in Texas is responsible for promulgating the platform. Now, I'm sure that you don't need these dots connected, but others might: criticial thinking is the worst enemy of theocracy - a population that thinks for itself is one that doesn't obey the priests.

- The presumptive nominee of the Republican Party, Mitt Romney, is so evangelical that he attempted to convert someone to Mormnism after they had died.

- The South Dakota Republican-dominated legislature has demanded that any woman seeking an abortion must first go through three days of proselytization by anti-choice, Christian fundamentalist "counsellors".

How many more examples do you need? I can provide as many as you want, given the time to do the typing. The Republican Party is about imposing Christianity - specifically, their narrow-minded, intolerant version of Christianity - onto America's public discourse with or without America's consent. They are a theocratic party.

1. Aclu and daily mail are heavily biased sources.
2. Once again, go check the definition of theocracy.
3. Conveniently, your strongest critiscm (critical thinking) lacks any sources.
4. Your South Dakota source (from the ACLU, NO LESS) mentions nothing about religion or proselyting. So you're fundamentally dishonest.

[Veladio]

I would just invoke Hades and see which realm of the underworld they are inhabiting

[The Mongol Ilkhanate]

You don't actually use corpses, that's a very common misconception.

What? I didn't say Mormons use corpses. Using a corpse would ensure better results for the anti-baptism ritual. You know, because the corpse is actually there, and it exists.

Love and tolerance strikes again.

[Trotskylvania]

I like it when people's offenses carry their own punishment.

[Mavorpen]

What? I didn't say Mormons use corpses. Using a corpse would ensure better results for the anti-baptism ritual. You know, because the corpse is actually there, and it exists.

Well, that would be grave robbing, and that's terrible.

It's in the Holy Scripture of Atheism. Doesn't that always get us a free pass to do silly things?

What? I didn't say Mormons use corpses. Using a corpse would ensure better results for the anti-baptism ritual. You know, because the corpse is actually there, and it exists.

Love and tolerance strikes again.

See, Mongol agrees with my practices and recognizes it's basis in love and tolerance.