2012-2013 College Football Discussion Thread(SEASON OVER)

[Qazox]

Calling it right now. Alabama vs Georgia for the BCS National Championship


Alabama is SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Lucky...

CAN'T HAPPEN!

[Thatius]

Wow if it was apparent before who the Alabama haters were, it is now. Look, I am just as much an advocate of a play-off system as you are. Before last season's chaos, I wanted a 4-team play-off. Now I'm glad it is finally happening in the next couple years, and it's unfortunate that it is not for this year. That being said, can you really hate on Alabama's schedule when looking at Oregon's?

Should Kansas State be in it? They were destroyed by what, 28 points by 4-5 Baylor? They are out of the picture.
Oregon's loss is equivalent to Alabama's. Lost barely to a team ranked in the teens. Maybe ND will lose to USC and we'll have an Alabama v. Oregon game. I think it's a big possibility.

[Qazox]

Hoo-boy what a Saturday Night huh?

Most impressive win of the weekend: Baylor destroying K-State.

(Remember the #8 spot is for the best non-BCS AQ team of the past week)

#1- Notre Dame (def. Wake Forest 38-0) LW: #3
#2- Ohio State (def. Wisconsin 21-14 OT) LW: #4
#3- Alabama (def. Western Carolina 49-0) LW: #5
#4- Georgia (def. Georgia Southern 45-14) LW: #6
#5- Florida State (def. Maryland 41-14) LW: #7
#6- Florida (def. Jacksonville State 23-0) LW: #9
#7- Texas A&M (def. Sam Houston State 47-28) LW: #10
#8- San Jose State (9-2) (def. Brigham Young 20-14) (SJSU with 9 wins this year??? uhm...I don't think they've won 9 games in the last 3 years before this..)
#9- LSU (def. Ole Miss 41-35) LW: #11
#10- Oregon (lost to Stanford 14-17 OT) LW: #2
#11- Clemson (def. North Carolina State 62-48) LW: #NR

Fell Out: K-State (Losing that bad as the #1 team in the country... not gonna stay in my Top 11 with that performance)

Congrats to the following teams for clinching bowl eligibility this weekend: 65 teams are now bowl eligible
Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets
Iowa State Cyclones
University of Miami Hurricanes
Syracuse Orange (still have a BCS shot... )
Air Force Falcons ( yay! )

My current BCS Bowl predictions: which will likely be shattered again this weekend...
Orange Bowl: Florida State (ACC) v. Rugters (Big East)
Sugar Bowl: Florida (SEC) v. Oregon (Pac 12)
Rose Bowl: Nebraska (Big 10) v. Stanford (Pac 12)
Fiesta Bowl: Kansas State (Big XII) vs. Clemson (ACC)
BCS CHAMPIONSHIP: Notre Dame vs. Alabama/Georgia Winner (SEC)

Quick explanation: The Georgia/Alabama loser will not get a BCS game, and in this Florida Beats FSU on saturday. If FSU beats Florida, then I'd think LSU would get the Sugar Bowl bid.

[Minnysota]

*snip*

I don't particularly hate on Alabama, I just hate on how the winner from last year is so heavily favored by every poll. It happened with other teams, it just so happens to be Alabama right now.

It's a really simple concept that if you lose this late in the season (especially at home), you're out of luck. Yet for some reason, Alabama is still in the running.

EDIT: The schedule point is to bring up that Alabama is not a god team. They are the best team this year, but they aren't even the best team this decade. I think that Alabama is a beatable team, considering they've, in reality, only played two quality teams so far.

[Minnysota]

That being said, can you really hate on Alabama's schedule when looking at Oregon's?

I don't particularly defend Oregon. I like watching them, but they play pathetic teams.

[Torisakia]

*snip*

I don't particularly hate on Alabama, I just hate on how the winner from last year is so heavily favored by every poll. It happened with other teams, it just so happens to be Alabama right now.

It's a really simple concept that if you lose this late in the season (especially at home), you're out of luck. Yet for some reason, Alabama is still in the running.

EDIT: The schedule point is to bring up that Alabama is not a god team. They are the best team this year, but they aren't even the best team this decade. I think that Alabama is a beatable team, considering they've, in reality, only played two quality teams so far.

Mississippi State doesn't count? They were #11 when Bama played them. And Arkansas could've easily been #6 if they hadn't lost to ULM. If Tennessee had had a better season, they would be a decent team. So that's 5 teams that were ranked that played Bama this season. Not to mention #8 Michigan. Or is it when these high ranked teams lose so bad to Bama they're considered "mediocre"?

[Minnysota]

Mississippi State doesn't count? They were #11 when Bama played them. And Arkansas could've easily been #6 if they hadn't lost to ULM. If Tennessee had had a better season, they would be a decent team. So that's 5 teams that were ranked that played Bama this season. Not to mention #8 Michigan. Or is it when these high ranked teams lose so bad to Bama they're considered "mediocre"?

Michigan - Great ratings, bro.

Mississippi State - K.

Arkansas - Looooooooool.

Tennessee - Amazing.

I'll lift Miss. State up from "mediocore" to "decent". They're nothing special this year.

[Chetssaland]

I don't particularly hate on Alabama, I just hate on how the winner from last year is so heavily favored by every poll. It happened with other teams, it just so happens to be Alabama right now.

It's a really simple concept that if you lose this late in the season (especially at home), you're out of luck. Yet for some reason, Alabama is still in the running.

EDIT: The schedule point is to bring up that Alabama is not a god team. They are the best team this year, but they aren't even the best team this decade. I think that Alabama is a beatable team, considering they've, in reality, only played two quality teams so far.

Mississippi State doesn't count? They were #11 when Bama played them. And Arkansas could've easily been #6 if they hadn't lost to ULM. If Tennessee had had a better season, they would be a decent team. So that's 5 teams that were ranked that played Bama this season. Not to mention #8 Michigan. Or is it when these high ranked teams lose so bad to Bama they're considered "mediocre"?

What they were ranked at the time doesn't matter. Holy shit. Arkansas is 4-7, get real. And now for the dumbest quote I've seen all week.

"If Tenessee had had a better season, they would be a decent team."

What does that even mean. I guess I can say if Illinois had a better season, they would be a decent team, so let's put them in the championship. Alabama gets credit for beating LSU, and MSU is decent. LSU is NOT an elite team either, mind you.

Alabama is probably the best team, but don't try and tell me they have the toughest schedule. Oregon's, by the time it's all over, will have played a schedule much tougher, and theirs isn't great.

[Torisakia]

Mississippi State doesn't count? They were #11 when Bama played them. And Arkansas could've easily been #6 if they hadn't lost to ULM. If Tennessee had had a better season, they would be a decent team. So that's 5 teams that were ranked that played Bama this season. Not to mention #8 Michigan. Or is it when these high ranked teams lose so bad to Bama they're considered "mediocre"?

What they were ranked at the time doesn't matter. Holy shit. Arkansas is 4-7, get real. And now for the dumbest quote I've seen all week.

"If Tenessee had had a better season, they would be a decent team."

What does that even mean. I guess I can say if Illinois had a better season, they would be a decent team, so let's put them in the championship. Alabama gets credit for beating LSU, and MSU is decent. LSU is NOT an elite team either, mind you.

Alabama is probably the best team, but don't try and tell me they have the toughest schedule. Oregon's, by the time it's all over, will have played a schedule much tougher, and theirs isn't great.

Did I even say the had the toughest schedule? No.

I'm just going to leave this thread, won't post here anymore. You DFs piss me off too much.

[Chetssaland]

What they were ranked at the time doesn't matter. Holy shit. Arkansas is 4-7, get real. And now for the dumbest quote I've seen all week.

"If Tenessee had had a better season, they would be a decent team."

What does that even mean. I guess I can say if Illinois had a better season, they would be a decent team, so let's put them in the championship. Alabama gets credit for beating LSU, and MSU is decent. LSU is NOT an elite team either, mind you.

Alabama is probably the best team, but don't try and tell me they have the toughest schedule. Oregon's, by the time it's all over, will have played a schedule much tougher, and theirs isn't great.

Did I even say the had the toughest schedule? No.

I'm just going to leave this thread, won't post here anymore. You DFs piss me off too much.

Oh no, someone has a different opinion than you on a debate forum. Bye.

By the way, calling someone a dumbfuck is actually flaming.

[Torisakia]

Did I even say the had the toughest schedule? No.

I'm just going to leave this thread, won't post here anymore. You, DFs, piss me off too much.

Oh no, someone has a different opinion than you on a debate forum. Bye.

By the way, calling someone a dumbfuck is actually flaming.

That's not what that DF means....but okay.

DF means "Dear Friends". Which I used in this case. In no way was I trying to call anyone a dumbfuck. Should've pointed that out, sorry.

[Chetssaland]

Oh no, someone has a different opinion than you on a debate forum. Bye.

By the way, calling someone a dumbfuck is actually flaming.

That's not what that DF means....but okay.

DF means "Dear Friends". Which I used in this case. In no way was I trying to call anyone a dumbfuck. Should've pointed that out, sorry.

Bullshit. You edited my quotation of you to include two commas. Your original post had no commas. Think of a better lie next time.

[Torisakia]

That's not what that DF means....but okay.

DF means "Dear Friends". Which I used in this case. In no way was I trying to call anyone a dumbfuck. Should've pointed that out, sorry.

Bullshit. You edited my quotation of you to include two commas. Your original post had no commas. Think of a better lie next time.

That isn't the point. The point is when I meant "DF", I meant "Dear Friends".


I'm seriously thinking of leaving this forum, because of the way I'm treated here.

[Minnysota]

I'm seriously thinking of leaving this forum, because of the way I'm treated here.

No one is making you stay.

[Chetssaland]

Bullshit. You edited my quotation of you to include two commas. Your original post had no commas. Think of a better lie next time.

That isn't the point. The point is when I meant "DF", I meant "Dear Friends".


I'm seriously thinking of leaving this forum, because of the way I'm treated here.

That'd be your own fault. All I've done is call you out for being wrong and for flaming me and Minny then lying about it. I'm not going to apologize for not doing anything wrong just so some guy doesn't leave.

[Chetssaland]

Jeezz.. calm down a bit people.

I'm tired of these DF's who have no respect for good teams, or fans of those teams for that matter.

^You mean to tell me that DF means "dear friends" in this post too?

[Torisakia]

I'm tired of these DF's who have no respect for good teams, or fans of those teams for that matter.

^You mean to tell me that DF means "dear friends" in this post too?

If you want me to, I'll report myself for flaming. It's the least i could do.

[Chetssaland]

^You mean to tell me that DF means "dear friends" in this post too?

If you want me to, I'll report myself for flaming. It's the least i could do.

g
No the mods are probably sick of hearing from this thread, considering they locked your thread in moderation. Which is why I didn't report it myself.

[West Angola]

Ranked teams Alabama has beaten (in order of USA Today latest ranking): LSU (8), Michigan (20), and Mississippi State (24). In order to win out they will have to beat Georgia (3). Their one loss was to Texas A+M (10).

Ranked teams Oregon has beaten (same ordering): None. In order to win out they will have to beat UCLA (16) and Oregon State (17). Their one loss was to Stanford (11)

Ranked teams Kansas State has beaten (same ordering): Oklahoma (13) and Oklahoma State (21). In order to win out they will have to beat Texas (15). Their one loss was to Baylor (Unranked).

Analysis: Alabama is the only one of the three who has beaten a top ten team, and the only one who has to beat one to reach the championship. Additionally, their loss was to the highest-ranked of the three. Assuming Notre Dame wins out, Alabama is clearly the most deserving of the three to play for the National Championship come January.

But also: Georgia! Ranked teams they've beaten: Florida (6). In order to win out they must beat Alabama (2). Their one loss was to South Carolina (12).

Additional Analysis: If Georgia beats Alabama, they will most likely play for the National Championship. I think the voters will be impressed enough to put them in over KSU or Oregon, but all three teams are very closely matched.

[Minnysota]

It's a damn shame no one looks past the rankings.

[Bythyrona]

If Tennessee had had a better season, they would be a decent team.

Before the Mizzou game: "Tennessee has given up 35.4 points and 483.1 yards per game. The Vols haven't given up that high a scoring average over the course of a full season since allowing 42.7 per game while playing a six-game schedule in 1893. Tennessee hasn't allowed that many yards per game over a full season since at least 1950, the earliest year Tennessee measures that statistic in its media guide.

The Vols have yielded at least 38 points in five straight games. [...] Sunseri took over as Tennessee's defensive coordinator this season and switched the Vols to a 3-4 scheme, though they have used more four-man fronts lately. Tennessee ranked 28th nationally in total defense (340.5) and 36th in scoring defense (22.6) last season under former coordinator Justin Wilcox, who left for the same position at Washington. The Vols currently rank 112th in total defense and 107th in scoring defense."

The last time Tennessee was this bad, we were running the single-wing and General Neyland had just retired. 1954 Vols, Harvey Robinson, 4-6 (1-5 SEC). (Oh yeah, that's right, we actually won an SEC game and beat Vandy that year...) Before you say 1977 or 2008 was worse: 1977 was Majors' first year, and in 2008 we still had Fulmer, John Chavis, and Eric Berry and we won three SEC games.

'nuff said. THIS ONE'S FOR YOU, DOOLEY.

[TaQud]

Kent State is Ranked 23rd!

[West Angola]

It's a damn shame no one looks past the rankings.

Unfortunately, the rankings, while far from perfect, are how things are determined in college football. Since the rankings favor Alabama, they will play for the national championship in January.

[Chetssaland]

Kent State is Ranked 23rd!

There's been a MAC team in 3 of the 6 BCS rankings this year. MAC finally getting some respect.

[TaQud]

Kent State is Ranked 23rd!

There's been a MAC team in 3 of the 6 BCS rankings this year. MAC finally getting some respect.

they do. They beat Rutgers (who is ranked) and that is rutgers only loss for the season. Plus Kent State is 10-1...