2012-2013 College Football Discussion Thread(SEASON OVER)

[Chetssaland]

Florida's going to do what to UofL? Hah, my school is better than you thought, huh?

Congrats on the win! Kudos for having your team take out an SEC fiend.

[Torisakia]

Okay, it's official. Florida SUCKS. Biggest SEC embarrassment since Arkansas lost to ULM. TAMU will probably lose to Chokelahoma. Ole Miss will probably win. And Alabama's already got the National Title on-lock.

I say the SEC trades Florida, Auburn, Kentucky, and Arkansas for ULM and Louisville.

[Northern Dominus]

Aaaaand down goes Florida! That's one more SEC juggernaut taken down by a "feeble" team...of course you could put 5 year old kids around the Lousiville QB and he would still find a way to win most likely, that young man is IMPRESSIVE.

So let's see here, Miss State falls to Northwestern, LSU chokes against Clemson in the final quarter, now Florida. By comparison Georgia had a relatively easy team and South Carolina benefitted from several blown calls that really should have gone against them (not the least of which was that awful measurement)...anyone want to lecture me on the proverbial SEC "dominance" again? The only exception here is Vanderbilt who put on a stellar game against NC State in the music city bowl. They had hometown advantage and carried that momentum well.

Anyway, upcoming bowls...well aside from the BCS championship which will be a great game most likely, the Fiesta Bowl tonight looks like its going to be a fun game as well. Oregon has their Heisman-worthy runner in Barner who has really had a great senior year, but Kansas has a decent run defense in the form of Brown. Not the biggest linebacker ever but dear god he's quick and hits well above his weight. That game can go either way, definitely worth watching tonight.

[Saugeais]

Okay, it's official. Florida SUCKS. Biggest SEC embarrassment since Arkansas lost to ULM. TAMU will probably lose to Chokelahoma. Ole Miss will probably win. And Alabama's already got the National Title on-lock.

I say the SEC trades Florida, Auburn, Kentucky, and Arkansas for ULM and Louisville.

FLAWLESS SEC LOGIC!

[Torisakia]

Okay, it's official. Florida SUCKS. Biggest SEC embarrassment since Arkansas lost to ULM. TAMU will probably lose to Chokelahoma. Ole Miss will probably win. And Alabama's already got the National Title on-lock.

I say the SEC trades Florida, Auburn, Kentucky, and Arkansas for ULM and Louisville.

FLAWLESS SEC LOGIC!

Wouldn't be bad since ULM and Louisville are the only teams who can compete with the SEC apparently.

[Saugeais]

FLAWLESS SEC LOGIC!

Wouldn't be bad since ULM and Louisville are the only teams who can compete with the SEC apparently.

And here I was thinking you and your infinite SEC wisdom would say, "Lucky wins. Just a fluke. SEC is still da bess."

[Torisakia]

Aaaaand down goes Florida! That's one more SEC juggernaut taken down by a "feeble" team...of course you could put 5 year old kids around the Lousiville QB and he would still find a way to win most likely, that young man is IMPRESSIVE.

So let's see here, Miss State falls to Northwestern, LSU chokes against Clemson in the final quarter, now Florida. By comparison Georgia had a relatively easy team and South Carolina benefitted from several blown calls that really should have gone against them (not the least of which was that awful measurement)...anyone want to lecture me on the proverbial SEC "dominance" again? The only exception here is Vanderbilt who put on a stellar game against NC State in the music city bowl. They had hometown advantage and carried that momentum well.

Anyway, upcoming bowls...well aside from the BCS championship which will be a great game most likely, the Fiesta Bowl tonight looks like its going to be a fun game as well. Oregon has their Heisman-worthy runner in Barner who has really had a great senior year, but Kansas has a decent run defense in the form of Brown. Not the biggest linebacker ever but dear god he's quick and hits well above his weight. That game can go either way, definitely worth watching tonight.

Jesus dude, it's just a game. Just because your D- team didn't make it to a bowl game doesn't mean you have to rip on other bigger, better conferences.

Your hate gets the SEC more publicity and money. So keep hating

[Torisakia]

Wouldn't be bad since ULM and Louisville are the only teams who can compete with the SEC apparently.

And here I was thinking you and your infinite SEC wisdom would say, "Lucky wins. Just a fluke. SEC is still da bess."

I don't talk like that. Nor do I have any wisdom for any SEC except Alabama.

[Northern Dominus]

FLAWLESS SEC LOGIC!

Wouldn't be bad since ULM and Louisville are the only teams who can compete with the SEC apparently.

...and Northwestern. Mississippi State is also an SEC team and they did lose the Gator Bowl after all.

[Torisakia]

Wouldn't be bad since ULM and Louisville are the only teams who can compete with the SEC apparently.

...and Northwestern. Mississippi State is also an SEC team and they did lose the Gator Bowl after all.

I-Oh, nevermind.

[Chetssaland]

Aaaaand down goes Florida! That's one more SEC juggernaut taken down by a "feeble" team...of course you could put 5 year old kids around the Lousiville QB and he would still find a way to win most likely, that young man is IMPRESSIVE.

So let's see here, Miss State falls to Northwestern, LSU chokes against Clemson in the final quarter, now Florida. By comparison Georgia had a relatively easy team and South Carolina benefitted from several blown calls that really should have gone against them (not the least of which was that awful measurement)...anyone want to lecture me on the proverbial SEC "dominance" again? The only exception here is Vanderbilt who put on a stellar game against NC State in the music city bowl. They had hometown advantage and carried that momentum well.

Anyway, upcoming bowls...well aside from the BCS championship which will be a great game most likely, the Fiesta Bowl tonight looks like its going to be a fun game as well. Oregon has their Heisman-worthy runner in Barner who has really had a great senior year, but Kansas has a decent run defense in the form of Brown. Not the biggest linebacker ever but dear god he's quick and hits well above his weight. That game can go either way, definitely worth watching tonight.

Jesus dude, it's just a game. Just because your D- team didn't make it to a bowl game doesn't mean you have to rip on other bigger, better conferences.

Your hate gets the SEC more publicity and money. So keep hating

"Jesus dude, it's just a game." Says the kid who was on the verge of suicide after Bama lost.

Also, can you please explain this Hate to Cash Converter Machine the SEC has? I'd like to make one myself and sell it for a profit.

[Gaveo]

I wonder if the SEC will collapse if Alabama loses the National Championship...*

*Obviously kidding but one always wonders, right?

[United Dependencies]

Good Job UofL.

Things are starting to look up for the ACC.

[Gaveo]

Good Job UofL.

Things are starting to look up for the ACC.

Agreed, GT won against USC and FSU won the Orange Bowl.

[Chetssaland]

Wouldn't be bad since ULM and Louisville are the only teams who can compete with the SEC apparently.

...and Northwestern. Mississippi State is also an SEC team and they did lose the Gator Bowl after all.

Northwestern actually beat 2 SEC teams. They took out Vandy early in the year. Louisville beat Kentucky early in the year as well. And Clemson beat Auburn in the regular season.

Not to mention other teams that beat SEC teams like Clemson, Texas A&M (it's a Big 12 roster), Mizzou, Western Kentucky, and Rutgers.

So several teams can beat SEC teams. If they actually played real nonconference opponents the list would be larger.

[Northern Dominus]

...and Northwestern. Mississippi State is also an SEC team and they did lose the Gator Bowl after all.

Northwestern actually beat 2 SEC teams. They took out Vandy early in the year. Louisville beat Kentucky early in the year as well. And Clemson beat Auburn in the regular season.

Not to mention other teams that beat SEC teams like Clemson, Texas A&M (it's a Big 12 roster), Mizzou, Western Kentucky, and Rutgers.

So several teams can beat SEC teams. If they actually played real nonconference opponents the list would be larger.

It would be interesting to see what would happen if the SEC was suddenly unable to dictate their own schedules completely. Once the schedule padding was taken out of the equation, then the fun could ensue...

[West Angola]

It would be interesting to see what would happen if the SEC was suddenly unable to dictate their own schedules completely. Once the schedule padding was taken out of the equation, then the fun could ensue...

Yeah, then Big XII teams couldn't play Savannah State, Missouri State, North Texas, Wyoming, New Mexico, Sam Houston State, Florida A+M, or UTEP.

Pac-12 teams couldn't play Hawaii, Syracuse, Rice, Duke, San Jose State, Portland State, Arkansas State, Tennessee Tech, Nicholls State, or Southern Utah.

Big 10 teams couldn't play UMASS, Central Michigan, Eastern Michigan, UAB, Northern Iowa, Utah State, UTEP, Arkansas State, Idaho State, or Charleston Southern.

All three of these lists could be far longer, I only looked at 4 or 5 teams from each conference.

[Thatius]

Oh my god, the SEC goes 3-3 and all the SEC haters are having a field day.

Georgia had a relatively easy team and South Carolina benefitted from several blown calls that really should have gone against them (not the least of which was that awful measurement)...anyone want to lecture me on the proverbial SEC "dominance" again?

Nebraska beat your team, and had 10 wins in the Big 10 and went to the B1G Championship game. Tell me, how are they an easy team?
South Carolina did not benefit from anything, that one 4th down call went against them, even though it was clearly short. Thanks to Jadeveon Clowney, that bad call became karma and resulted in a TD for Carolina.

I just love having a Big 10 fan call us overrated (I like your 2-5 record this season). And want to talk about OOC scheduling too?

Let's just take a look at some great Big 10 scheduling.

Nebraska played Idaho State (FCS), Southern Miss (went 0-12), UCLA, and Arkansas State
Wisconsin played UTEP, Utah State, Northern Iowa (FCS), and Oregon State
Penn State played Ohio, Navy, Virginia, and Temple
Northwestern played Vanderbilt, Syracuse, Boston College, and South Dakota (FCS)
Michigan played Air Force, Massachusetts, ND, and Alabama (the hardest OOC schedule, by far)
Michigan State played Central Michigan, Eastern Michigan, Boise, and ND (second hardest schedule)
Ohio State played Miami (Ohio), Cal, UAB, and UCF
Iowa played Northern Iowa (FCS), Central Michigan, NIU, and Iowa State
Minnesota played New Hampshire (FCS), UNLV, Western Michigan, and Syracuse
Indiana played Indiana State (FCS), Ball State, Navy, and Massachusetts
Illinois played Charleston Southern (FCS), LA Tech, Arizona State, and Western Michigan
Purdue played Eastern Kentucky (FCS), Marshall, ND, and Eastern Michigan

8/12 Big 10 schools scheduled FCS teams. To say that only the SEC does it....

[The Ancient World]

In our family bowl picks, I NEED Kent State to win.......

[TaQud]

In our family bowl picks, I NEED Kent State to win.......

I hope Kent State Wins...

[The Emerald Dawn]

In our family bowl picks, I NEED Kent State to win.......

I hope Kent State Wins...

I hope they massacre the competition.

[Chetssaland]

Ok can someone, anyone, tell me who said only the SEC schedules bad non conference teams. I'm dying for someone to quote a post that says that. But if no one can provide me with an example of someone saying the SEC is the only one, you're all moving the goal posts.

Clearly, and I mean, like, crystal clear, I was responding to T-sak who said that only two teams can compete with the SEC, albeit jokingly. After I listed teams the SEC has lost to, I gave an unarguably true statement that there would be more non conferences losses if they scheduled tougher opponents. Anyone disputing that? No? Then NoDom affirmed my statements by essentially saying he would take pleasure in seeing more SEC losses.

There, I laid it out nice and cleanly for everyone so I don't have to argue about it later. I really don't see how you can dispute any of this, but you can try I guess.

And while every conference pads their schedules, the SEC is easily the worst. Oh, the Big Ten has 8/12 teams playing FCS opponents? Hmm, 8/12, 4/6, 2/3, 67%. Well that's not good at all. But let's look at the SEC schedules, I'm sure they're much better. Why, I bet they're even... Oh wait, 14/14 play FCS schools. Let's see, that's 14/14, 11/11, 3/3, 1/1, 100%. Ouch.

And you can't even use the meat grinder argument or whatever this year. You know, the one about how tough the conference schedule is. The SEC is the worst it's been in 10 years. So is the Big Ten, of course, but that's not the point. The point is that the SEC can't get away with having a lousy NC schedule by having a tough IC schedule.

Which is why I think the Nat. Champ. game will be much closer than expected, if not an outright victory for ND. Alabama boasts a win against overrated, mediocre LSU, a game in which they struggled in, and against a good but not great Georgia team, again a game they could have lost. Meanwhile, A&M went up 21-0 on them like it was nothing, IN ALABAMA.

Notre Dame, meanwhile, has a win at Oklahoma, a team that I would rank well ahead of LSU but below Georgia. And they completely outplayed the Sooners too. They just physically dominated them. And they have a win against Stanford, which is better than Georgia. Some of you are saying, "But they could have lost that game just like Alabama could have lost against Georiga!" Well you're right, it was a close game. But if Stanford scored, it would have been tied. If Georgia scored, they would have won. And on a less significant but still, IMO, important level, Notre Dame WON that game vs Stanford. Georgia LOST the game vs Alabama. That's not me being a fanboy or hater bringing up subjective points, either. One, I'm not a fanboy for ND (at all) or a hater of Alabama. I actually was going to root for Alabama due to my ND hatred, but due to my bowl predictions which involves money, I'll be pulling for ND. And two, I don't think it's that subjective. ND STOPPED Stanford on 4 downs. Georgia RAN OUT OF TIME after they made a MISTAKE by not spiking it.

/end long post.

[Northern Dominus]

It would be interesting to see what would happen if the SEC was suddenly unable to dictate their own schedules completely. Once the schedule padding was taken out of the equation, then the fun could ensue...

Yeah, then Big XII teams couldn't play Savannah State, Missouri State, North Texas, Wyoming, New Mexico, Sam Houston State, Florida A+M, or UTEP.

Pac-12 teams couldn't play Hawaii, Syracuse, Rice, Duke, San Jose State, Portland State, Arkansas State, Tennessee Tech, Nicholls State, or Southern Utah.

Big 10 teams couldn't play UMASS, Central Michigan, Eastern Michigan, UAB, Northern Iowa, Utah State, UTEP, Arkansas State, Idaho State, or Charleston Southern.

All three of these lists could be far longer, I only looked at 4 or 5 teams from each conference.

Oh I'm not saying take away all non-conference game, but if the SEC thinks its so big and bad then surely they don't need to face teams like WKU or Western Carolina.

Case in point, if Alabama wins the BCS championship bowl this year, then maybe next season they could be expected to have a return match in the regular season? Or face other top finishers from other conferences as well? If they're such a big and bad team, then surely they wouldn't have a problem going on the road and maybe beating Nebraska in their stadium, or Stanford at theirs.

Until they do that, I remain unconvinced that the SEC is worth their self-hype.

[Gaveo]

I hope Kent State Wins...

I hope they massacre the competition.

That wasn't even funny...

[Torisakia]

I wonder if the SEC will collapse if Alabama loses the National Championship...*

*Obviously kidding but one always wonders, right?

If that happens, you won't see me on here for a while.