2012-2013 College Football Discussion Thread(SEASON OVER)

[Chetssaland]

Not to mention Georgia Tech. Those engineers can play!

Why? Because they beat the preseason #1? I must remind you that GT got murdered by Georgia. And Georgia got murdered the following Saturday.

We're just talking about teams that won bowl games that also have high academic standards.

I mean it's not as if Vandy or Northwestern beat elite teams either. USC is a better team than MS St., NC St., and possibly Wisconsin.

Also, add Rice to the list of academic schools who won bowl games. And possibly Notre Dame by the end of the bowl season.

[Torisakia]

Why? Because they beat the preseason #1? I must remind you that GT got murdered by Georgia. And Georgia got murdered the following Saturday.

We're just talking about teams that won bowl games that also have high academic standards.

I mean it's not as if Vandy or Northwestern beat elite teams either. USC is a better team than MS St., NC St., and possibly Wisconsin.

Also, add Rice to the list of academic schools who won bowl games.

You could also add UAB to that list. However, UAB didn't go to a bowl and probably never will. But they're among one of the top medical schools in the nation.

[Northern Dominus]

Well I was somewhat right, FSU ain't scoring anywhere near 100, Torisakia.

And that last play just about killed any NIU chance of a win.

The Huskies have played a bit deer-in-the-head-lights tonight. But NIU has played a hell of a lot better than Hawai'i did a few years ago.

What? I picked FSU to win 41-3. I never said anything about them scoring 100. I said it'd feel like 100 to NIU. And I'm not sending you a penny, too bad.

5 days till Alabama is reigning champions again. Everything's over but the crying for ND fans/supporters.

Right, and here we go with the SEC ego again.

Let's clear a few things up here. First, "fast" isn't an SEC thing exclusively, including Alabama. It's only notable in the deep south because it's an abbhoration given how fat most of the SEC home states are.

Furthermore, who exactly has Alabama beaten that's been of any significance, at all? Show me one instance where Alabama didn't pad their schedule with their non-conference opponents, or where they actually bothered to play one of those non-conference teams outside of Tuscaloosa? And don't give the "meat grinder" thing, Alabama managed to dodge Georgia and Florida this year as well.

Notre Dame has won on the road more often, they've traveled more, and they've played tougher opponents without padding their schedule, and they did it against markedly tougher and more capable teams.

Methinks Notre Dame is due for a bit of extra ivory this year. And there's a big trumpeting scarlett elephant that looks like it has big enough tusks.

[Chetssaland]

We're just talking about teams that won bowl games that also have high academic standards.

I mean it's not as if Vandy or Northwestern beat elite teams either. USC is a better team than MS St., NC St., and possibly Wisconsin.

Also, add Rice to the list of academic schools who won bowl games.

You could also add UAB to that list. However, UAB didn't go to a bowl and probably never will. But they're among one of the top medical schools in the nation.

If they didn't win a bowl they aren't part of the discussion. Otherwise we'd be sitting here going "How bout that Harvard, Princeton, MIT, Yale?"

By the way an elite med school doesn't necessarily mean good academics all around. Baylor has a great med school but I wouldn't consider them scholars who can play ball.

[Torisakia]

What? I picked FSU to win 41-3. I never said anything about them scoring 100. I said it'd feel like 100 to NIU. And I'm not sending you a penny, too bad.

5 days till Alabama is reigning champions again. Everything's over but the crying for ND fans/supporters.

Right, and here we go with the SEC ego again.

Let's clear a few things up here. First, "fast" isn't an SEC thing exclusively, including Alabama. It's only notable in the deep south because it's an abbhoration given how fat most of the SEC home states are.

Furthermore, who exactly has Alabama beaten that's been of any significance, at all? Show me one instance where Alabama didn't pad their schedule with their non-conference opponents, or where they actually bothered to play one of those non-conference teams outside of Tuscaloosa? And don't give the "meat grinder" thing, Alabama managed to dodge Georgia and Florida this year as well.

Notre Dame has won on the road more often, they've traveled more, and they've played tougher opponents without padding their schedule, and they did it against markedly tougher and more capable teams.

Methinks Notre Dame is due for a bit of extra ivory this year. And there's a big trumpeting scarlett elephant that looks like it has big enough tusks.

ND struggled with Pittsburgh.

I rest my case.

[Torisakia]

You could also add UAB to that list. However, UAB didn't go to a bowl and probably never will. But they're among one of the top medical schools in the nation.

If they didn't win a bowl they aren't part of the discussion. Otherwise we'd be sitting here going "How bout that Harvard, Princeton, MIT, Yale?"

By the way an elite med school doesn't necessarily mean good academics all around. Baylor has a great med school but I wouldn't consider them scholars who can play ball.

Damn, sorry. I didn't know. Jeez, it's like it's a bad thing.

[Saugeais]

Right, and here we go with the SEC ego again.

Let's clear a few things up here. First, "fast" isn't an SEC thing exclusively, including Alabama. It's only notable in the deep south because it's an abbhoration given how fat most of the SEC home states are.

Furthermore, who exactly has Alabama beaten that's been of any significance, at all? Show me one instance where Alabama didn't pad their schedule with their non-conference opponents, or where they actually bothered to play one of those non-conference teams outside of Tuscaloosa? And don't give the "meat grinder" thing, Alabama managed to dodge Georgia and Florida this year as well.

Notre Dame has won on the road more often, they've traveled more, and they've played tougher opponents without padding their schedule, and they did it against markedly tougher and more capable teams.

Methinks Notre Dame is due for a bit of extra ivory this year. And there's a big trumpeting scarlett elephant that looks like it has big enough tusks.

ND struggled with Pittsburgh.

I rest my case.

Any given sunday. I rest my case.

[Torisakia]

ND struggled with Pittsburgh.

I rest my case.

Any Given Sunday. I rest my case.

Ok. I don't know what that means. But ok.

[Northern Dominus]

Right, and here we go with the SEC ego again.

Let's clear a few things up here. First, "fast" isn't an SEC thing exclusively, including Alabama. It's only notable in the deep south because it's an abbhoration given how fat most of the SEC home states are.

Furthermore, who exactly has Alabama beaten that's been of any significance, at all? Show me one instance where Alabama didn't pad their schedule with their non-conference opponents, or where they actually bothered to play one of those non-conference teams outside of Tuscaloosa? And don't give the "meat grinder" thing, Alabama managed to dodge Georgia and Florida this year as well.

Notre Dame has won on the road more often, they've traveled more, and they've played tougher opponents without padding their schedule, and they did it against markedly tougher and more capable teams.

Methinks Notre Dame is due for a bit of extra ivory this year. And there's a big trumpeting scarlett elephant that looks like it has big enough tusks.

ND struggled with Pittsburgh.

I rest my case.

And Alabama Lost to Texas A&M. Plus they beat out USC which is a better team than either LSU or most of the SEC teams anyway.

[Saugeais]

Any Given Sunday. I rest my case.

Ok. I don't know what that means. But ok.

"Big" football fan and you don't know the term?

It means that on any game day, either team can win. This is mostly due to football being the most unpredictable sport played today.

[Chetssaland]

Right, and here we go with the SEC ego again.

Let's clear a few things up here. First, "fast" isn't an SEC thing exclusively, including Alabama. It's only notable in the deep south because it's an abbhoration given how fat most of the SEC home states are.

Furthermore, who exactly has Alabama beaten that's been of any significance, at all? Show me one instance where Alabama didn't pad their schedule with their non-conference opponents, or where they actually bothered to play one of those non-conference teams outside of Tuscaloosa? And don't give the "meat grinder" thing, Alabama managed to dodge Georgia and Florida this year as well.

Notre Dame has won on the road more often, they've traveled more, and they've played tougher opponents without padding their schedule, and they did it against markedly tougher and more capable teams.

Methinks Notre Dame is due for a bit of extra ivory this year. And there's a big trumpeting scarlett elephant that looks like it has big enough tusks.

ND struggled with Pittsburgh.

I rest my case.

On the other side of the argument, though, you could say that ND beat Stanford. And won at OU. Bama has the same amount of impressive wins. One at a neutral site against Georgia and one at LSU. I'd say Stanford and OU are of equal strength as LSU and UGA.

[Torisakia]

ND struggled with Pittsburgh.

I rest my case.

And Alabama Lost to Texas A&M. Plus they beat out USC which is a better team than either LSU or most of the SEC teams anyway.

TAMU was perfectly capable of beating Alabama, which is okay.

Can't wait till Alabama murders ND on Monday. Then, you'll all be sorry.

[Northern Dominus]

Any Given Sunday. I rest my case.

Ok. I don't know what that means. But ok.

Really? Big time 'Bama (and probably by extension) SEC fan and you don't know the meaning of the phrase "Any Given Sunday" beyond a mediocre film?

Really?

[Chetssaland]

If they didn't win a bowl they aren't part of the discussion. Otherwise we'd be sitting here going "How bout that Harvard, Princeton, MIT, Yale?"

By the way an elite med school doesn't necessarily mean good academics all around. Baylor has a great med school but I wouldn't consider them scholars who can play ball.

Damn, sorry. I didn't know. Jeez, it's like it's a bad thing.

Oh I'm not yelling at you or anything. I'm just telling you that we're bringing up victorious academic teams. Bringing up an average university in UAB who didn't even play in a bowl game doesn't make much sense.

[Torisakia]

Ok. I don't know what that means. But ok.

Really? Big time 'Bama (and probably by extension) SEC fan and you don't know the meaning of the phrase "Any Given Sunday" beyond a mediocre film?

Really?

The phrase "Any Given Sunday" is used for the NFL. The correct term is "Any Given Saturday", my friend.

[Thatius]

Alabama has wins against LSU, Georgia, and Michigan.
ND has wins against Stanford, OU, and Michigan.

Both have played grinding schedules. Although Bama has padded the schedule with cupcakes (Western Kentucky, Florida Atlantic, Western Carolina) but so has Notre Dame (Wake Forest, Boston College, Purdue).

I'm sorry Northern Dominus that your hatred of the SEC/Alabama gives rise to comments such as these:

It's only notable in the deep south because it's an abbhoration given how fat most of the SEC home states are.

Just SMH. By the way, USC isn't better than LSU. Not even close. USC lost to 6-7 Georgia Tech.

[Pope Joan]

Right, and here we go with the SEC ego again.

Let's clear a few things up here. First, "fast" isn't an SEC thing exclusively, including Alabama. It's only notable in the deep south because it's an abbhoration given how fat most of the SEC home states are.

Furthermore, who exactly has Alabama beaten that's been of any significance, at all? Show me one instance where Alabama didn't pad their schedule with their non-conference opponents, or where they actually bothered to play one of those non-conference teams outside of Tuscaloosa? And don't give the "meat grinder" thing, Alabama managed to dodge Georgia and Florida this year as well.

Notre Dame has won on the road more often, they've traveled more, and they've played tougher opponents without padding their schedule, and they did it against markedly tougher and more capable teams.

Methinks Notre Dame is due for a bit of extra ivory this year. And there's a big trumpeting scarlett elephant that looks like it has big enough tusks.

ND struggled with Pittsburgh.

I rest my case.

My beloved Pitt Panthers did beat VA Tech this year. And Rutgers. Now they're bowling vs. Ol' Miss.

Btw, my seminary beat the Pitt Panthers in 1914. The equipment back then consisted of floppy leather helmets..

[Saugeais]

Really? Big time 'Bama (and probably by extension) SEC fan and you don't know the meaning of the phrase "Any Given Sunday" beyond a mediocre film?

Really?

The phrase "Any Given Sunday" is used for the NFL. The correct term is "Any Given Saturday", my friend.

Oof, you are scraping the bottom of the barrel looking for counter arguments, aren't you.


My thoughts on the game: Close, defensive battle early with a late flurry of points. 31-21 Notre Dame.

[Northern Dominus]

Really? Big time 'Bama (and probably by extension) SEC fan and you don't know the meaning of the phrase "Any Given Sunday" beyond a mediocre film?

Really?

The phrase "Any Given SUnday" is used for the NFL. The correct term is "Any Given Saturday", my friend.

Oh lookie, the goalposts have moved...just like grade standards at SEC schools when it turns out their football players are dumber than bricks but have massive investments tied up in them.

And in any event, that day didn't turn out for Notre Dame in a crushing victory, but it was still a victory. And they've beaten more bowl-bound teams than Alabama has. So I rest my case...well mostly, I'll still have the recipie for good ol' southern triple fried crow in case I'm wrong.

[Torisakia]

The phrase "Any Given SUnday" is used for the NFL. The correct term is "Any Given Saturday", my friend.

Oh lookie, the goalposts have moved...just like grade standards at SEC schools when it turns out their football players are dumber than bricks but have massive investments tied up in them.

And in any event, that day didn't turn out for Notre Dame in a crushing victory, but it was still a victory. And they've beaten more bowl-bound teams than Alabama has. So I rest my case...well mostly, I'll still have the recipie for good ol' southern triple fried crow in case I'm wrong.

So you must really hate Alabama fans? Well so does everyone else here, so you aren't alone.

Just wait till Monday. You and everyone else on this thread will be sorry.

[Torisakia]

I say Alabama's D should run some of those formations that the 1992 National Title Team's defense did. Put all 11 men on the line. Everett Golson won't know what to do.

[Northern Dominus]

Oh lookie, the goalposts have moved...just like grade standards at SEC schools when it turns out their football players are dumber than bricks but have massive investments tied up in them.

And in any event, that day didn't turn out for Notre Dame in a crushing victory, but it was still a victory. And they've beaten more bowl-bound teams than Alabama has. So I rest my case...well mostly, I'll still have the recipe for good ol' southern triple fried crow in case I'm wrong.

So you must really hate Alabama fans? Well so does everyone else here, so you aren't alone.

Just wait till Monday. You and everyone else on this thread will be sorry.

I don't hate Alabama fans, at least not specifically. I don't even hate the individual teams of the SEC for the most part. I hate the CULTURE of the SEC. I hate the holier-than-thou attitude, braying about their records when they do everything the can to pad their schedules and give themselves easy victories. I hate the fact that the SEC has inflicted more self-righteous asshole players on the football world than any other conference. I hate the idiotc declerations that all SEC fans make about their team such as "speed" or "physicality", as if these are concepts foreign to every other college team in the US, and if somehow another team demonstrates those same quality, an SEC school will be automatically that much better by being in the SEC.

See, I've grown up a longtime fan of Northwestern, a school that has a rich athletic tradition but never EVER compromises when challenging its teams or enforcing academic standards, practices that are followed by most Big 10 schools. It doesn't always translate into big shiny titles every year, but it means that Northwestern and a lot of Big 10 schools conduct themselves with the upmost of determination and honor even in the face of inflated rankings of other teams spurred by a lack of educational standards and challenge.

So yeah, Alabama may win this year. We may have to endure more braying from SEC cultists. But in the end the SEC is still nothing but a big secondary pro league for young men with a diploma mill attached to almost every school, save for Vanderbilt.

[Torisakia]

So you must really hate Alabama fans? Well so does everyone else here, so you aren't alone.

Just wait till Monday. You and everyone else on this thread will be sorry.

I don't hate Alabama fans, at least not specifically. I don't even hate the individual teams of the SEC for the most part. I hate the CULTURE of the SEC. I hate the holier-than-thou attitude, braying about their records when they do everything the can to pad their schedules and give themselves easy victories. I hate the fact that the SEC has inflicted more self-righteous asshole players on the football world than any other conference. I hate the idiotc declerations that all SEC fans make about their team such as "speed" or "physicality", as if these are concepts foreign to every other college team in the US, and if somehow another team demonstrates those same quality, an SEC school will be automatically that much better by being in the SEC.

See, I've grown up a longtime fan of Northwestern, a school that has a rich athletic tradition but never EVER compromises when challenging its teams or enforcing academic standards, practices that are followed by most Big 10 schools. It doesn't always translate into big shiny titles every year, but it means that Northwestern and a lot of Big 10 schools conduct themselves with the upmost of determination and honor even in the face of inflated rankings of other teams spurred by a lack of educational standards and challenge.

So yeah, Alabama may win this year. We may have to endure more braying from SEC cultists. But in the end the SEC is still nothing but a big secondary pro league for young men with a diploma mill attached to almost every school, save for Vanderbilt.

In a shorter, less boring way of saying it: You hate the SEC.

[Northern Dominus]

I don't hate Alabama fans, at least not specifically. I don't even hate the individual teams of the SEC for the most part. I hate the CULTURE of the SEC. I hate the holier-than-thou attitude, braying about their records when they do everything the can to pad their schedules and give themselves easy victories. I hate the fact that the SEC has inflicted more self-righteous asshole players on the football world than any other conference. I hate the idiotc declerations that all SEC fans make about their team such as "speed" or "physicality", as if these are concepts foreign to every other college team in the US, and if somehow another team demonstrates those same quality, an SEC school will be automatically that much better by being in the SEC.

See, I've grown up a longtime fan of Northwestern, a school that has a rich athletic tradition but never EVER compromises when challenging its teams or enforcing academic standards, practices that are followed by most Big 10 schools. It doesn't always translate into big shiny titles every year, but it means that Northwestern and a lot of Big 10 schools conduct themselves with the upmost of determination and honor even in the face of inflated rankings of other teams spurred by a lack of educational standards and challenge.

So yeah, Alabama may win this year. We may have to endure more braying from SEC cultists. But in the end the SEC is still nothing but a big secondary pro league for young men with a diploma mill attached to almost every school, save for Vanderbilt.

In a shorter, less boring way of saying it: You hate the SEC.

Well it was either go that route or delve into the watered-down version of dueling that SEC fans utilize these days, a scintilating round of "No U Lulz".

Since my overall point is more complex than that I figured I'd make it known very clearly.

[The Emerald Dawn]

In a shorter, less boring way of saying it: You hate the SEC.

Well it was either go that route or delve into the watered-down version of dueling that SEC fans utilize these days, a scintilating round of "No U Lulz".

Since my overall point is more complex than that I figured I'd make it known very clearly.