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Postby TaQud » Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:52 pm

Qazox wrote:IF I was given total control of the NFL and could re-align the divisions any way I wanted (but the teams stay in their current cities).. here's my set-up. First off.. no more conferences. 8 divisions of 4 teams, you play each team in your divison twice (6 games), the teams with the same divisional positioning as you from the previous season (1st plays 1st, 2nd plays 2nd, 3rd plays 3rd, 4th plays 4th) (7 games) and the last 3 games are against one division, which rotates yearly.

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NorthEast Division
Buffalo Bills
New England Patriots
New York Giants
New York Jets

Mid-Atlantic Division
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Carolina Panthers
Philadelphia Eagles
Washington Redskins

South Division
Atlanta Falcons (could be switched w/ Tennessee)
Jacksonville Jaguars
Miami Dolphins
Tampa Bay Buccaneers

North Division
Cleveland Browns
Cincinnati Bengals
Detroit Lions (could be switched w/ Indianapolis)
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MidWest Division
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Indianapolis Colts (could be switched w/ Detroit)
Green Bay Packers
Minnesota Vikings

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Kansas City Chiefs
New Orleans Saints
St. Louis Rams
Tennessee Titans (could be switched w/ Atlanta)

SouthWest Division
Arizona Cardinals
Dallas Cowboys
Denver Broncos
Houston Texans

Pacific Division
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San Diego Chargers
San Francisco 49ers
Seattle Seahawks

Great browns are still in a tough division...
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Postby Qazox » Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:45 pm

TaQud wrote:Great browns are still in a tough division...


Yeah.. but now you'd be with the Lions and they (until last year at least) made the Browns look like the Steelers.
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Postby TaQud » Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:48 pm

Qazox wrote:
TaQud wrote:Great browns are still in a tough division...


Yeah.. but now you'd be with the Lions and they (until last year at least) made the Browns look like the Steelers.

I would love to be in the South Division...
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Postby United States of PA » Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:53 pm

Well, Vick got injured (again), wonder how long he'll make it in the Regular Season (Ribs this time, thumb last time).
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Postby Chetssaland » Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:42 am

TaQud wrote:
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Portland, San Antonio or Las Vegas >>> than your cities.


I think LV has a team in the USFL....
Portland i guess
and san antonio... Too many teams in texas like it is in Florida

Considering Canada places:
Montreal
Toronto (though Buffalo plays there once a year)
Ottawa
and maybe Abbotstford


Toronto is a terrible football city. I think Edmonton would be a better choice. Their CFL team sometimes draws more than some NFL teams do.

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Postby Pope Joan » Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:10 am

United States of PA wrote:Well, Vick got injured (again), wonder how long he'll make it in the Regular Season (Ribs this time, thumb last time).


Commentators blame him for getting injured, saying it's because he's so mobile.

They are wrong. His O line is a sieve. They either open holes for the defense to enter the pocket and crush Vick, or why collapse on him so that he is either going to be sacked by his own line or else try to escape.

Meanwhile the Eagles keep adding linebackers and ignoring this glaring need.
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Postby Kentsland » Tue Aug 21, 2012 8:50 am

Pope Joan wrote:Commentators blame him for getting injured, saying it's because he's so mobile.

They are wrong. His O line is a sieve. They either open holes for the defense to enter the pocket and crush Vick, or why collapse on him so that he is either going to be sacked by his own line or else try to escape.

Meanwhile the Eagles keep adding linebackers and ignoring this glaring need.


The commentators were right. Like when he injured his wrist, he took a few unnecessarily steps forward, rather than shuffling more to the side, and smashed right into the helmet. I haven't seen yesterday's injury on film yet, so I'll get back with that.

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Postby United States of PA » Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:19 pm

Pope Joan wrote:
United States of PA wrote:Well, Vick got injured (again), wonder how long he'll make it in the Regular Season (Ribs this time, thumb last time).


Commentators blame him for getting injured, saying it's because he's so mobile.

They are wrong. His O line is a sieve. They either open holes for the defense to enter the pocket and crush Vick, or why collapse on him so that he is either going to be sacked by his own line or else try to escape.

Meanwhile the Eagles keep adding linebackers and ignoring this glaring need.



Because linebackers were a true issue? They had no one at that level last season. They had the D-Line and than the secondary, almost nothing in between. Thats part of the reason why the defense under performed so badly.

Also, The Eagles O-line is nothing close to a "Sieve". With a healthy Jason Peters and Todd Herremans, they got a better left side of the line than half the league. idk about the other side of the line, but thats better than arguably what Pittsburgh for Example has had for well, ever. And we won two Super Bowls and went to another.

Mike Vick is just injury prone, being a real mobile quarterback doesnt help (This is when i mention he has only ever played 16 games in one season. Ever, in his 11 or so seasons).
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Postby Chetssaland » Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:04 pm

United States of PA wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:
Commentators blame him for getting injured, saying it's because he's so mobile.

They are wrong. His O line is a sieve. They either open holes for the defense to enter the pocket and crush Vick, or why collapse on him so that he is either going to be sacked by his own line or else try to escape.

Meanwhile the Eagles keep adding linebackers and ignoring this glaring need.



Because linebackers were a true issue? They had no one at that level last season. They had the D-Line and than the secondary, almost nothing in between. Thats part of the reason why the defense under performed so badly.

Also, The Eagles O-line is nothing close to a "Sieve". With a healthy Jason Peters and Todd Herremans, they got a better left side of the line than half the league. idk about the other side of the line, but thats better than arguably what Pittsburgh for Example has had for well, ever. And we won two Super Bowls and went to another.

Mike Vick is just injury prone, being a real mobile quarterback doesnt help (This is when i mention he has only ever played 16 games in one season. Ever, in his 11 or so seasons).


Exactly. Vick just doesn't have the size to stay healthy in this league. That's why I worry about RG3. Drew Brees gets by alright, but he's the exception. And he's an expert at getting rid of the ball quickly and shifting in the pocket the right way to where he has a good throwing lane.

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Postby TaQud » Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:46 am

Chetssaland wrote:
United States of PA wrote:

Because linebackers were a true issue? They had no one at that level last season. They had the D-Line and than the secondary, almost nothing in between. Thats part of the reason why the defense under performed so badly.

Also, The Eagles O-line is nothing close to a "Sieve". With a healthy Jason Peters and Todd Herremans, they got a better left side of the line than half the league. idk about the other side of the line, but thats better than arguably what Pittsburgh for Example has had for well, ever. And we won two Super Bowls and went to another.

Mike Vick is just injury prone, being a real mobile quarterback doesnt help (This is when i mention he has only ever played 16 games in one season. Ever, in his 11 or so seasons).


Exactly. Vick just doesn't have the size to stay healthy in this league. That's why I worry about RG3.

why not Cam Newton?
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Postby United States of PA » Wed Aug 22, 2012 3:58 am

Because Newton is a Fullback with the speed of a Halfback and the Throwing ability of a Ben Roethlisberger.

He's not lawlz small like RGIII and Mike Vick (Vick is 6ft 215lbs, Drew Brees is bigger iirc, and Brees is a fucking small QB)
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Postby Forsakia » Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:22 am

United States of PA wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:
Commentators blame him for getting injured, saying it's because he's so mobile.

They are wrong. His O line is a sieve. They either open holes for the defense to enter the pocket and crush Vick, or why collapse on him so that he is either going to be sacked by his own line or else try to escape.

Meanwhile the Eagles keep adding linebackers and ignoring this glaring need.



Because linebackers were a true issue? They had no one at that level last season. They had the D-Line and than the secondary, almost nothing in between. Thats part of the reason why the defense under performed so badly.

Also, The Eagles O-line is nothing close to a "Sieve". With a healthy Jason Peters and Todd Herremans, they got a better left side of the line than half the league. idk about the other side of the line, but thats better than arguably what Pittsburgh for Example has had for well, ever. And we won two Super Bowls and went to another.

Mike Vick is just injury prone, being a real mobile quarterback doesnt help (This is when i mention he has only ever played 16 games in one season. Ever, in his 11 or so seasons).


In recent years Pittsburgh has had a notoriously awful O-line and Roethlisberger's taken a pounding.

With the heights, well. It's one of those things where you take the official stats with a grain of salt tbh.
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Postby Arkinesia » Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:23 am

United States of PA wrote:Because Newton is a Fullback with the speed of a Halfback and the Throwing ability of a Ben Roethlisberger.

He's not lawlz small like RGIII and Mike Vick (Vick is 6ft 215lbs, Drew Brees is bigger iirc, and Brees is a fucking small QB)

This. Guys like Luck, Freeman, and Newton have the size to play whatever kind of quarterback they want to in this league. Vick and Griffin don't have that luxury.
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Postby TaQud » Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:39 am


shocker... (/sarcasm)
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Postby San-Silvacian » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:49 pm

Gonna see the Pack in action on Thursday.

Yay.
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Postby TaQud » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:52 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:Gonna see the Pack in action on Thursday.

Yay.

you can just watch them on the internet from some website to see them...
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Postby TaQud » Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:28 pm

at least the packers are winning a game right now...
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Postby Pope Joan » Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:32 pm

You really want to play the Steelers and Lions twice each every season, TQ?
Maybe you really should swap out Detroit for Indy.
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Postby TaQud » Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:34 pm

Pope Joan wrote:You really want to play the Steelers and Lions twice each every season, TQ?
Maybe you really should swap out Detroit for Indy.

I go by TaQud but how do we play Detriot Lions twice a season?
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Postby Pope Joan » Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:40 pm

TaQud wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:You really want to play the Steelers and Lions twice each every season, TQ?
Maybe you really should swap out Detroit for Indy.

I go by TaQud but how do we play Detriot Lions twice a season?


Aren't they in your North division with the Browns?

Btw I do like eliminating the conferences.
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Postby TaQud » Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:44 pm

Pope Joan wrote:
TaQud wrote:I go by TaQud but how do we play Detriot Lions twice a season?


Aren't they in your North division with the Browns?

Btw I do like eliminating the conferences.

no they are int he NFC North. The Browns are in the AFC North.
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Postby Pope Joan » Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:51 pm

TaQud wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:
Aren't they in your North division with the Browns?

Btw I do like eliminating the conferences.

no they are int he NFC North. The Browns are in the AFC North.


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Postby Chetssaland » Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:12 pm

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Exactly. Vick just doesn't have the size to stay healthy in this league. That's why I worry about RG3.

why not Cam Newton?


As already stated, Cam is a large human being. He can handle the hits he takes.

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Postby TaQud » Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:13 pm

Chetssaland wrote:
TaQud wrote:why not Cam Newton?


As already stated, Cam is a large human being. He can handle the hits he takes.

hopefully he can keep doing that for a long time...
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