NFL Off-Season Discussion Thread *Over a year old!*

[United States of PA]

The NFL isn't going to put a team in Europe. Besides, the UK has its own pro football league.

No, seriously.

Putting a NFL Team in London will actually be for the better, because it wont force a NFL team to surrender a home game every year.

If the NFL wasn't considering, we wouldn't have had the NFL Europe and we wouldn't still be having the London Game every year.

[Chetssaland]

http://deadspin.com/5925018/heres-patriots-owner-bob-kraft-helping-his-girlfriend-with-some-kind-of-weird-audition?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

What the literal fuck? There's more to this video, but I can't find the rest of it. Kraft apparently has some good lawyers or something. This is bizarre either way.

Here's a little more, except it's edited some. You still see Kraft though.

http://tosh.comedycentral.com/video-clips/robert-kraft-s-audition-tape---uncensored

I posted THIS a month ago.. get on the ball

Damn it, I did a search for "Kraft" before I posted it and nothing came up.

[Pope Joan]

I would love to see Peyton get pounded. Elway is a jerk; he made his bed, let him lie in it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BZs0CQ- ... re=related

[The Murray Dynasty]

Im sticking with my guns and saying Detriot is going to the NFC Champsionship game this year.

With Brees and company minus a coach,
The days of Rogers questionable,
SanFrancisco beatable? (Take out Frank Gore, force Smith to throw= Game Over.)
What else?

Oh yeah, Calvin Johnson, Matthew Stafford, Titus Young, Brandon Pettigrew, Smith, Best, and Leshoure in the back field. A reconstructing offensive line, and probably the best D-Line in the game... Detriot has everything in their favor this year with their all-stars all healthy. With the better offensive line stacking up, Stafford will take less hits, the running game will find more holes, and all around injuries will be a new low for a Lions team that gets ravaged by them every year.

[Chetssaland]

Im sticking with my guns and saying Detriot is going to the NFC Champsionship game this year.

With Brees and company minus a coach,
The days of Rogers questionable,
SanFrancisco beatable? (Take out Frank Gore, force Smith to throw= Game Over.)
What else?

Oh yeah, Calvin Johnson, Matthew Stafford, Titus Young, Brandon Pettigrew, Smith, Best, and Leshoure in the back field. A reconstructing offensive line, and probably the best D-Line in the game... Detriot has everything in their favor this year with their all-stars all healthy. With the better offensive line stacking up, Stafford will take less hits, the running game will find more holes, and all around injuries will be a new low for a Lions team that gets ravaged by them every year.

Since when are the days of Rodgers questionable? And taking out SF's run game is easier said than done. Plus I wouldn't sleep on their passing game. The Saints should be better than expected. And the Bears will probably be even better than they were the first half of last year.

[Pope Joan]

Im sticking with my guns and saying Detriot is going to the NFC Champsionship game this year.

With Brees and company minus a coach,
The days of Rogers questionable,
SanFrancisco beatable? (Take out Frank Gore, force Smith to throw= Game Over.)
What else?

Oh yeah, Calvin Johnson, Matthew Stafford, Titus Young, Brandon Pettigrew, Smith, Best, and Leshoure in the back field. A reconstructing offensive line, and probably the best D-Line in the game... Detriot has everything in their favor this year with their all-stars all healthy. With the better offensive line stacking up, Stafford will take less hits, the running game will find more holes, and all around injuries will be a new low for a Lions team that gets ravaged by them every year.

Since when are the days of Rodgers questionable? And taking out SF's run game is easier said than done. Plus I wouldn't sleep on their passing game. The Saints should be better than expected. And the Bears will probably be even better than they were the first half of last year.

It seems to me that Rodgers and the Packers do not play well in cold outdoor conditions during the playoffs. This seems to be more of a team problem than a Rodgers problem.

[The Murray Dynasty]

Rodger's is over rated, example; Matt Flynn.

Bears are a joke, why, one word; Cutler.

Saints are nothing without their mastermind coach, players can be great, but the true genious behind any great team is the coach, subtract the coach and you have a mess of a team. He can't put any plans in place to even help them, that would even violate his suspension, and if discovered, would probably lead to a permanent removal from the league.

49ers running game just needs a pinch on the line, force them outside to the bigger gentleman (OLB, MLB) with just as much speed/power as a RB. If you can stop Frank Gore, 49ers can NOT win. Reasoning before; Alex Smith is a joke.

[United States of PA]

Rodger's is over rated, example; Matt Flynn.

Bears are a joke, why, one word; Cutler.

Saints are nothing without their mastermind coach, players can be great, but the true genious behind any great team is the coach, subtract the coach and you have a mess of a team. He can't put any plans in place to even help them, that would even violate his suspension, and if discovered, would probably lead to a permanent removal from the league.
.

While i agree that Rodgers is overrated, Cutler is not a joke.

He managed to take a team to the NFC championship with no offensive line, and no wide receivers. Thats far from a joke.

Saints have played before without Payton, and they did just fine. Brees is their team coach more or less. And they still have their OC, who ran the team last year in Paytons absence.

[Chetssaland]

Rodger's is over rated, example; Matt Flynn.

Bears are a joke, why, one word; Cutler.

Saints are nothing without their mastermind coach, players can be great, but the true genious behind any great team is the coach, subtract the coach and you have a mess of a team. He can't put any plans in place to even help them, that would even violate his suspension, and if discovered, would probably lead to a permanent removal from the league.

49ers running game just needs a pinch on the line, force them outside to the bigger gentleman (OLB, MLB) with just as much speed/power as a RB. If you can stop Frank Gore, 49ers can NOT win. Reasoning before; Alex Smith is a joke.

Whether another quarterback could do what he's doing in the Green Bay system is irrelevant. The only thing that matters is that SOMEONE will be dominating under center. You haven't watched enough Bears games if you think Cutler is a joke. He's possibly the second best QB in the division, and maybe the 4th or so best in the NFC.

It's not as if Brees forgot everything Payton put in place while he was there, so they'll barely skip a beat.

SF went 9-4 in games with Gore not breaking 100. They were 8-2 when he didn't score a TD. Considering he had over 140 rushing yds when he played your Lions, I'd say stopping him isn't going to be so easy. Smith's role isn't the same as Stafford's role. He's there as a "game manager" as it's been coined. And as you can see from last year, it worked.

[TaQud]

I would love to see Peyton get pounded. Elway is a jerk; he made his bed, let him lie in it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BZs0CQ- ... re=related

Elway deserves it

[TaQud]

I posted THIS a month ago.. get on the ball

Damn it, I did a search for "Kraft" before I posted it and nothing came up.

[Forsakia]

Orlando would likely have had the same issues, Memphis is too close to St. Louis iirc, San Antonio is too small a market. LA has already given up two football teams (Rams & Raiders).

Tbh i cant think of any other place to put a team besides Jacksonville. Most of the other really populace cities in the country already have a team.

Move em to London, god knows Goodell has a hardon for putting a team there (Plus it would likely open up for more players for the Draft by introducing the sport more heavily to the UK. Main issue right now is that there is simply not enough quality players to go around all the time).

EDIT: Only other one i could potentially see was San Jose, which is the only one in the 15 most populous cities to not have a team as of last census iirc.

The NFL isn't going to put a team in Europe. Besides, the UK has its own pro football league.

No, seriously.

Pretty sure that's amateur.

[TaQud]

I was a year off sorry . But still JAcksonville over any of the cities I listed???

Orlando would likely have had the same issues, Memphis is too close to St. Louis iirc, San Antonio is too small a market. LA has already given up two football teams (Rams & Raiders).
Tbh i cant think of any other place to put a team besides Jacksonville. Most of the other really populace cities in the country already have a team.
Move em to London, god knows Goodell has a hardon for putting a team there (Plus it would likely open up for more players for the Draft by introducing the sport more heavily to the UK. Main issue right now is that there is simply not enough quality players to go around all the time).
EDIT: Only other one i could potentially see was San Jose, which is the only one in the 15 most populous cities to not have a team as of last census iirc.

According to this map,

Perhaps the best place to put Jacksonville would be (IMO),

Salt Lake City
Little Rock
Oklahoma City
El Paso
Salem

[Kentsland]

I don't know, extending the NFL to GB would be pretty cool, except because of the time difference it may prove to be an annoyance. It would either be US watching football at 7 AM or GB watching football at midnight.

Although I'm surprised the NFL hasn't extended into Canada. The Bills often play a game or so in Toronto, but why not make expansion teams into Canada, too? And why doesn't sports go to Alaska. That'd be awesome. The "Alaska Ice" or "Anchorage Kodiaks" or "Juneau Arctics".

[Qazox]

Orlando would likely have had the same issues, Memphis is too close to St. Louis iirc, San Antonio is too small a market. LA has already given up two football teams (Rams & Raiders).
Tbh i cant think of any other place to put a team besides Jacksonville. Most of the other really populace cities in the country already have a team.
Move em to London, god knows Goodell has a hardon for putting a team there (Plus it would likely open up for more players for the Draft by introducing the sport more heavily to the UK. Main issue right now is that there is simply not enough quality players to go around all the time).
EDIT: Only other one i could potentially see was San Jose, which is the only one in the 15 most populous cities to not have a team as of last census iirc.

According to this map,

Perhaps the best place to put Jacksonville would be (IMO),

Salt Lake City
Little Rock
Oklahoma City
El Paso
Salem

Portland, San Antonio or Las Vegas >>> than your cities.

[Maurepas]

According to this map,

Perhaps the best place to put Jacksonville would be (IMO),

Salt Lake City
Little Rock
Oklahoma City
El Paso
Salem

Portland, San Antonio or Las Vegas >>> than your cities.

I think they're going to Los Angeles, it doesn't matter that LA doesn't "deserve" it in that sense, it doesn't matter that the populace don't want to put public funds towards building a new stadium.

What matters is one of the largest markets in the US is devoid of an NFL team and the NFL is desperate to get back into that market.

It's either going to be Jacksonville or San Diego, it just depends on who goes first. Maybe even both.

[Qazox]

IF I was given total control of the NFL and could re-align the divisions any way I wanted (but the teams stay in their current cities).. here's my set-up. First off.. no more conferences. 8 divisions of 4 teams, you play each team in your divison twice (6 games), the teams with the same divisional positioning as you from the previous season (1st plays 1st, 2nd plays 2nd, 3rd plays 3rd, 4th plays 4th) (7 games) and the last 3 games are against one division, which rotates yearly.

NEW NFL DIVISIONS

NorthEast Division
Buffalo Bills
New England Patriots
New York Giants
New York Jets

Mid-Atlantic Division
Baltimore Ravens
Carolina Panthers
Philadelphia Eagles
Washington Redskins

South Division
Atlanta Falcons (could be switched w/ Tennessee)
Jacksonville Jaguars
Miami Dolphins
Tampa Bay Buccaneers

North Division
Cleveland Browns
Cincinnati Bengals
Detroit Lions (could be switched w/ Indianapolis)
Pittsburgh Steelers

MidWest Division
Chicago Bears
Indianapolis Colts (could be switched w/ Detroit)
Green Bay Packers
Minnesota Vikings

Central Division
Kansas City Chiefs
New Orleans Saints
St. Louis Rams
Tennessee Titans (could be switched w/ Atlanta)

SouthWest Division
Arizona Cardinals
Dallas Cowboys
Denver Broncos
Houston Texans

Pacific Division
Oakland Raiders
San Diego Chargers
San Francisco 49ers
Seattle Seahawks

[Maurepas]

Meh, New Orleans not being in the same division as Atlanta sucks balls. Sorry, but those two cities ARE the South and should be in it.

[Qazox]

Meh, New Orleans not being in the same division as Atlanta sucks balls. Sorry, but those two cities ARE the South and should be in it.

That's why I had the (could be switched w/ Tennessee) qualifier. The 8 divisions I have mininizes intra-division travel for all. Is it really fair that Seattle has to travel to St. Louis every year and vice-versa?

Yes some rivalries would broken up (esp. the NFC East ones); but you can't tell me that the NFL wouldn't have a joygasm for having NYG-NYJ twice a year.. once on Sunday night and the other on Monday night?

About the playoffs under the set-up above: Division winners only make the playoffs, and teams seeded by Regular Season record.

[Maurepas]

Meh, New Orleans not being in the same division as Atlanta sucks balls. Sorry, but those two cities ARE the South and should be in it.

That's why I had the (could be switched w/ Tennessee) qualifier. The 8 divisions I have mininizes intra-division travel for all. Is it really fair that Seattle has to travel to St. Louis every year and vice-versa?

Yes some rivalries would broken up (esp. the NFC East ones); but you can't tell me that the NFL wouldn't have a joygasm for having NYG-NYJ twice a year.. once on Sunday night and the other on Monday night?

About the playoffs under the set-up above: Division winners only make the playoffs, and teams seeded by Regular Season record.

Well, I can see the point for Seattle and St. Louis, but some of the divisions like the NFC South I don't think really need to be changed.

Dallas shouldn't be in the East, and Seattle shouldn't have to go to St. Louis, but those can be fixed without such sweeping changes I think.

[Clagen]

Saints are nothing without their mastermind coach, players can be great, but the true genious behind any great team is the coach, subtract the coach and you have a mess of a team. He can't put any plans in place to even help them, that would even violate his suspension, and if discovered, would probably lead to a permanent removal from the league.

Yeah its not so much the players being suspended as loosing the coach and defensive coordinator. Maybe that guy was right and the us vs them mentality will make them great? I don't know, its a huge question mark by their team.

[Arkinesia]

The NFL isn't going to put a team in Europe. Besides, the UK has its own pro football league.

No, seriously.

Putting a NFL Team in London will actually be for the better, because it wont force a NFL team to surrender a home game every year.

If the NFL wasn't considering, we wouldn't have had the NFL Europe and we wouldn't still be having the London Game every year.

Actually it has to do with IFAF and the NFL teaming up to make the game more popular.

Halftime at NFL games this year had IFAF youth football scrimmages, for instance, to promote IFAF itself a bit better.

[Chetssaland]

According to this map,

Perhaps the best place to put Jacksonville would be (IMO),

Salt Lake City
Little Rock
Oklahoma City
El Paso
Salem

Portland, San Antonio or Las Vegas >>> than your cities.

I think SLC is the only city there that could take in an NFL team. OKC is a one team market at this point, Little Rock is a 0 team market, El Paso just doesn't seem to fit IMO, and if you're going to put an NFL team in Oregon, Portland is the better choice. As for your cities, I'm not sure if Portland is more than a 1 team market (though it does have the people), San Antonio has the population too but Dallas has already tapped that market so the NFL wouldn't be interested, and Vegas has too many transplants and too much to do there. Plus the gambling is just a little too close to home there, something the NFL wouldn't like.

If we're taking Los Angeles out of the picture, I think Omaha would be a good choice. Large population center, not much to do, no team has really taken a foothold there. I think it would be comparable to the fanbase in OKC.

[Kentsland]

IF I was given total control of the NFL and could re-align the divisions any way I wanted (but the teams stay in their current cities).. here's my set-up. First off.. no more conferences. 8 divisions of 4 teams, you play each team in your divison twice (6 games), the teams with the same divisional positioning as you from the previous season (1st plays 1st, 2nd plays 2nd, 3rd plays 3rd, 4th plays 4th) (7 games) and the last 3 games are against one division, which rotates yearly.

NEW NFL DIVISIONS

NorthEast Division
Buffalo Bills
New England Patriots
New York Giants
New York Jets

Mid-Atlantic Division
Baltimore Ravens
Carolina Panthers
Philadelphia Eagles
Washington Redskins

South Division
Atlanta Falcons (could be switched w/ Tennessee)
Jacksonville Jaguars
Miami Dolphins
Tampa Bay Buccaneers

North Division
Cleveland Browns
Cincinnati Bengals
Detroit Lions (could be switched w/ Indianapolis)
Pittsburgh Steelers

MidWest Division
Chicago Bears
Indianapolis Colts (could be switched w/ Detroit)
Green Bay Packers
Minnesota Vikings

Central Division
Kansas City Chiefs
New Orleans Saints
St. Louis Rams
Tennessee Titans (could be switched w/ Atlanta)

SouthWest Division
Arizona Cardinals
Dallas Cowboys
Denver Broncos
Houston Texans

Pacific Division
Oakland Raiders
San Diego Chargers
San Francisco 49ers
Seattle Seahawks

1. The Jets & Giants sharing a stadium and city is pretty big, but making them opponents in that sense wouldn't quite be a good idea. Most people in the NY area support both teams, and they can because the two have a "healthy respectable" feud. Making them essentially sore enemies wouldn't be a good idea. It'd turn into a Raider's game. If you get what I mean.

2. How is New Orleans not South?

3. It takes away the NFC-AFC challenge and history, and in a sense makes the Superbowl too predictable and overpowering. Giving 16 teams 1 spot is more competitive and interesting then giving everyone the same 2 spots.

4. Takes away first round playoff bye, if I'm calculating it right, and that would take away from the suspense and difference between good and very good.

[TaQud]

According to this map,

Perhaps the best place to put Jacksonville would be (IMO),

Salt Lake City
Little Rock
Oklahoma City
El Paso
Salem

Portland, San Antonio or Las Vegas >>> than your cities.

I think LV has a team in the USFL....
Portland i guess
and san antonio... Too many teams in texas like it is in Florida

Considering Canada places:
Montreal
Toronto (though Buffalo plays there once a year)
Ottawa
and maybe Abbotstford