NFL Off-Season Discussion Thread *Over a year old!*

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Though I'm not sure how the Steel Curtain loses to Tebow in One play

By stacking the box with the safeties on one of two out of 24 first down plays where the Bronco's passed the ball, thats how.

I'm suprised Tebow could actually throw through the defense..

[United States of PA]

By stacking the box with the safeties on one of two out of 24 first down plays where the Bronco's passed the ball, thats how.

I'm suprised Tebow could actually throw through the defense..

When your down essentially a Outside Backer, a D-Tackle, a Starting Corner AND a Starting Safety, you can usually throw the ball.

Also @ Dexter Jackson : Love that man, his signing with Arizona made Pittsburgh Draft Polamalu.

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Also @ Dexter Jackson : Love that man, his signing with Arizona made Pittsburgh Draft Polamalu.

he's a former Super Bowl MVP and he is now in the UFL!

[Qazox]

Someone who wants to watch Weeden Fumble the ball obv.

I didn't know Qazox would actually pay for it.

Ba Dum Ching...

I pay the NFL not to show me anything that involves the browns, unless it's them getting beaten by 40 by the Patriots.

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I didn't know Qazox would actually pay for it.

Ba Dum Ching...

I pay the NFL not to show me anything that involves the browns the giants winning against Tom Brady

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[Arkinesia]

Also @ Dexter Jackson : Love that man, his signing with Arizona made Pittsburgh Draft Polamalu.

he's a former Super Bowl MVP and he is now in the UFL!

I'm a big Bucs fan but I never really dug Dexter Jackson.

I was more into Derrick Brooks and Simeon Rice.

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he's a former Super Bowl MVP and he is now in the UFL!

I'm a big Bucs fan but I never really dug Dexter Jackson.

I was more into Derrick Brooks and Simeon Rice.

thats ad that no one remembers them winning the superbowl

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I pay the NFL not to show me anything that involves the browns the giants winning against Tom Brady

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I'll give you this TaQud:
Cleveland Browns lead series 13-9-0

[Maurepas]

It kind of made me sad that the Pats practice squad was better than ours,

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I'll give you this TaQud:
Cleveland Browns lead series 13-9-0

Thats right. Bow down Boston. Cleveland is better then you in football face to face.

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It kind of made me sad that the Pats practice squad was better than ours,

New orleans is either going to do average or go 10-6 this year (IMO)

[Maurepas]

It kind of made me sad that the Pats practice squad was better than ours,

New orleans is either going to do average or go 10-6 this year (IMO)

My money's on 13-3 and winning the division. I just don't see the punishments being enough to handicap the Saints, regardless of how Goodell feels about the subject. If anything it gives them motivation to not rest on their laurels and bring a Superbowl to New Orleans at home just to prove the point.

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New orleans is either going to do average or go 10-6 this year (IMO)

My money's on 13-3 and winning the division. I just don't see the punishments being enough to handicap the Saints, regardless of how Goodell feels about the subject. If anything it gives them motivation to not rest on their laurels and bring a Superbowl to New Orleans at home just to prove the point.

Speaking of the Superbowl. Do you remember when the Raiders face the Buccaneers int he Super Bowl? Guess where the teams have gotten to now...

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[Maurepas]

My money's on 13-3 and winning the division. I just don't see the punishments being enough to handicap the Saints, regardless of how Goodell feels about the subject. If anything it gives them motivation to not rest on their laurels and bring a Superbowl to New Orleans at home just to prove the point.

Speaking of the Superbowl. Do you remember when the Raiders face the Buccaneers int he Super Bowl? Guess where the teams have gotten to now...

Yeah, I remember that fairly well. But being a Saints fan, I was rooting for the Raiders,

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Speaking of the Superbowl. Do you remember when the Raiders face the Buccaneers int he Super Bowl? Guess where the teams have gotten to now...

Yeah, I remember that fairly well. But being a Saints fan, I was rooting for the Raiders,

the MVP of the Superbowl as some man named Dexter Jackson (apparently somewhere int he UFL now)

[Maurepas]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutd ... --nfl.html

"From the start, Judge Berrigan sided with Vilma and noted that the steps taken by the NFL when gathering, processing and using its information to mete out justice were specious at best. When Peter Ginsberg, Vilma's attorney, said that Vilm
a was suspended for cart-off hits, and there was no specific proof of Vilma's involvement, Judge Berrigan responded thusly: "I would like to rule in Vilma's favor. I do think you [Vilma] exhausted your remedies."

Judge Berrigan then dropped the hammer: "If I can find a way to legally do it, I will rule in Vilma's favor."

Idk about for you guys, but for me that's pretty big news. Though I do have a striking feeling that the Judge is a Saints fan,

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http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/judge-says-goodell-wrong-vilma-suspension-process-waits-173207815--nfl.html

"From the start, Judge Berrigan sided with Vilma and noted that the steps taken by the NFL when gathering, processing and using its information to mete out justice were specious at best. When Peter Ginsberg, Vilma's attorney, said that Vilm
a was suspended for cart-off hits, and there was no specific proof of Vilma's involvement, Judge Berrigan responded thusly: "I would like to rule in Vilma's favor. I do think you [Vilma] exhausted your remedies."

Judge Berrigan then dropped the hammer: "If I can find a way to legally do it, I will rule in Vilma's favor."

Idk about for you guys, but for me that's pretty big news. Though I do have a striking feeling that the Judge is a Saints fan,

hope not...

[United States of PA]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/judge-says-goodell-wrong-vilma-suspension-process-waits-173207815--nfl.html

"From the start, Judge Berrigan sided with Vilma and noted that the steps taken by the NFL when gathering, processing and using its information to mete out justice were specious at best. When Peter Ginsberg, Vilma's attorney, said that Vilm
a was suspended for cart-off hits, and there was no specific proof of Vilma's involvement, Judge Berrigan responded thusly: "I would like to rule in Vilma's favor. I do think you [Vilma] exhausted your remedies."

Judge Berrigan then dropped the hammer: "If I can find a way to legally do it, I will rule in Vilma's favor."

Idk about for you guys, but for me that's pretty big news. Though I do have a striking feeling that the Judge is a Saints fan,

Or it just means there no enough evidence to support the punishments, which is my leaning.


Look at the Saints Unsportsmanlike Conduct penalties over the past few years. With the exception of the Roman Harper Late hit on Steve Smith and the 2009 NFC Championship game against Minnesota, they are a pretty Saint-y team. Than you look at Vilma, and his unsportsmanlike conduct penalties over his career are almost nonexistant. It doesn't add up overall.

[Maurepas]

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/judge-says-goodell-wrong-vilma-suspension-process-waits-173207815--nfl.html


Idk about for you guys, but for me that's pretty big news. Though I do have a striking feeling that the Judge is a Saints fan,

Or it just means there no enough evidence to support the punishments, which is my leaning.


Look at the Saints Unsportsmanlike Conduct penalties over the past few years. With the exception of the Roman Harper Late hit on Steve Smith and the 2009 NFC Championship game against Minnesota, they are a pretty Saint-y team. Than you look at Vilma, and his unsportsmanlike conduct penalties over his career are almost nonexistant. It doesn't add up overall.

Oh I agree entirely of course. I think Goodell just doesn't want New Orleans to play the SB in their home stadium. I think he wanted someone like Dallas to do that, and so decided to exercise his authority on the subject.

But I am just saying that one has to have some personal feeling on the subject to issue such direct statements without being able to issue a ruling yet.

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Browns win the game

[United States of PA]

Yeah, no Bias is unheard of, but i doubt whether or not the Judge is a fan is going to rule into it. There has yet to be any solid evidence released. Even the NFL release of two "cart offs" against Carolina 2-3 years ago is bullshit. Two players were carted off, but one was on a kickoff iirc, and the other was a Carolina DB. There's no way that money could exchange hands amongst defensive players for Cart offs when none of them were on the field and so on.


Even with all this going on, the only big loss (assuming they all lose the appeals) is Vilma, and they have replaced him with a better player in the form of Curtis Lofton, and they only lost one other player for four games i believe. Their chances of going to the SB are the same as last years, pretty damned good (better than Green Bays anyway, they wont have so easy a schedule this season).

[Maurepas]

Yeah, no Bias is unheard of, but i doubt whether or not the Judge is a fan is going to rule into it. There has yet to be any solid evidence released. Even the NFL release of two "cart offs" against Carolina 2-3 years ago is bullshit. Two players were carted off, but one was on a kickoff iirc, and the other was a Carolina DB. There's no way that money could exchange hands amongst defensive players for Cart offs when none of them were on the field and so on.


Even with all this going on, the only big loss (assuming they all lose the appeals) is Vilma, and they have replaced him with a better player in the form of Curtis Lofton, and they only lost one other player for four games i believe. Their chances of going to the SB are the same as last years, pretty damned good (better than Green Bays anyway, they wont have so easy a schedule this season).

I think so too, and I think Will Smith should be cut anyway, his production doesn't merit his paycheck. Keep one of the younger players there, imo.

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Yeah, no Bias is unheard of, but i doubt whether or not the Judge is a fan is going to rule into it. There has yet to be any solid evidence released. Even the NFL release of two "cart offs" against Carolina 2-3 years ago is bullshit. Two players were carted off, but one was on a kickoff iirc, and the other was a Carolina DB. There's no way that money could exchange hands amongst defensive players for Cart offs when none of them were on the field and so on.


Even with all this going on, the only big loss (assuming they all lose the appeals) is Vilma, and they have replaced him with a better player in the form of Curtis Lofton, and they only lost one other player for four games i believe. Their chances of going to the SB are the same as last years, pretty damned good (better than Green Bays anyway, they wont have so easy a schedule this season).

I think so too, and I think Will Smith should be cut anyway, his production doesn't merit his paycheck. Keep one of the younger players there, imo.

always think for the future... (says the browns fan)

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Oh boy