NFL Off-Season Discussion Thread *Over a year old!*

[Gaveo]

ATL m-i-g-h-t beat PHI but since they are at home I give them the edge. Common Falcons!

[Qazox]

I gotta stop picking Thursday night games lost my last 4

0-1 this week

New England 24 v. St. Louis 20 (LONDON)
Carolina 13 @ Chicago 30
San Diego 25 @ Cleveland 20
Seattle 17 @ Detroit 20
Miami 14 @ New York Jets 31
Atlanta 34 @ Philadelphia 23
Washington 24 @ Pittsburgh 30
Jacksonville 3 @ Green Bay 35
Indianpolis 27 @ Tennessee 20
Oakland 31 @ Kansas City 14
New York Giants 31 @ Dallas 27
New Orleans 30 @ Denver 20 (upset of the week)
San Francisco 28 @ Arizona 20

OFF: Buffalo, Cincinnati, Baltimore, Houston

[The Murray Dynasty]

I gotta stop picking Thursday night games lost my last 4

0-1 this week

New England 24 v. St. Louis 20 (LONDON)
Carolina 13 @ Chicago 30
San Diego 25 @ Cleveland 20
Seattle 17 @ Detroit 20
Miami 14 @ New York Jets 31
Atlanta 34 @ Philadelphia 23
Washington 24 @ Pittsburgh 30
Jacksonville 3 @ Green Bay 35
Indianpolis 27 @ Tennessee 20
Oakland 31 @ Kansas City 14
New York Giants 31 @ Dallas 27
New Orleans 30 @ Denver 20 (upset of the week)
San Francisco 28 @ Arizona 20

OFF: Buffalo, Cincinnati, Baltimore, Houston

Props, though a few eras I see, I think Washington is going to trump the Steelers this week, and wait is Reggie Bush back, I have not kept up with the tabloids recently. If Bush is out of course New York will win, a lot closer than that though. If Bush is in Miami wins hands down. I like your upset of the week, and I think its a good pick especially since Tennessee and Indianpolis are not really good teams, otherwise I would pick that as my upset if the Colts were contendors.

Hasselback is going to win.

So lets see other than the basic get together of games;

Tennessee>Indianapolis
Washington>Pittsburgh
and the possibility of;
Miami>NYJ.

Other than that my picks are pretty much the same.

[Northern Dominus]

Really did you watch the film, I don't see his leg smashing into Cutler's thigh. He looked like he was going to, but he didn't. Now anyways, I would like to see you play his position as successfully as he has. I know he has had a rough past, but think about it 10 sacks in one season, then four in the next, he got SUPER pissed because he was not performing on the same caliber, but after his suspension he did perform better, and played more within the rules. His hit was far from illegal, I guarantee that he is not fined for his hit on Cutler. If it was illegal there would be a HUGE fuss about it today and the Comish would be all over it. Even the former NFL player's that were announcing the game recongize it as a completely legal hit. Now try again with this illegal hit crap, his leg never touched Cutler's thigh, therefore no illegal hit. Its funny that when Detroit does any good people get mad, you don't see anyone complaining about the Steeler's player almost killing the Brown's QB a few years back now do we? No. There are plenty of illegal hits every game, and just because Suh has had a rough first few years does not mean he is in any way shape or form a thug. I don't see a criminal record? Did he get charged with a hit and run, or any other crime for that matter? No. The only criminal on the team was Aarron Berry, and they released him for his crimes, he was even supposed to start this year for the Lion's. The organization does not tolerate convicts, Suh has yet to be convicted, and has even admitted that he is distancing himself from his bad-influences (His sister).

Uh huh...9 personals in 2 years, fastest rate in the NFL ever. And a history of borderline and unsportsmanlike play at Nebraska. He can say all he wants but until he demonstrates, for a year, that he's not a man-child I'll take a dim view otherwise.

And to be fair he's not the only Lions problem child. Nick Fairley has a LONG history of thuggery at Auburn and continuing petulance, especially when it comes to substance abuse charges. Matt Stafford is still a prick and will get low-tackled for his trouble if he keeps it up. Even Pettigrew and Bosch have their moments of dirty play beyond the normal scope of defensive moves. However, all this can bet tracked back to one source: Jim Schwartz. How can anybody expect the Lions to play in a non-borderline way when Shwartz is constantly getting in scuffles and screaming obscenities like the biggest petulant man-child on the entire field? Attitude reflects leadership, and the buck stops right at the coach.

[The Murray Dynasty]

Not disagreeing with the coaching staff on the Lions, they need better leadership, Schwartz was a great coordiantor, but he is a poor HC. (Just look at his draft moves.)

Though I rarely follow college players, if I recall Stafford is generally a pretty good guy. Though if you think about it he lived in Georgia, and there is just a way about some of the Southern folk that seems to make them arrogant. Though I have met some of the nicest people from the south, if they run into money, they become that though. (So does everyone.) Though I like Vanden-Bosch, Johnson, Stafford, Suh, Avril, and in some cases Fairley, I still think the coaching staff is our major problem.

[The Murray Dynasty]

Though, I have to respect Schwartz because he did bring the Lions to the playoffs for the first time since the 90's, but I do not need to respect the franchise moves and poor coaching during critical games. (49ers, Falcons, Saints x2, Packers x2, Chicagox1) All games we should have been in better and at least 3 we should have won. 49er's was a 4th down luck by bad fundamentals, and the Falcons (last year)... The Saints once I understand without Suh, but twice? The pack is really good with their recieving core, and Rodger's only lost to the Giants because he came out of sync when he rode the bench against the Lions. The Packer's on Thanksgiving was so our game, but like everyone knows, penalties. We marched down the field soo many times to get barely past the 50 and just eat it with our own penalties.

[Vettrera]

Overall: 17-10
Last Week: 8-5

Bears vs Panthers
Chargers vs Browns
Seahawks vs Lions
Packers vs Jaguars
Jets vs Dolphins
Falcons vs Eagles
Steelers vs Redskins
Pats vs Rams
Colts vs Titans
Raiders vs chiefs
Giants vs Cowboys
Saintsvs Broncos
49ers vs Cardinals

[United States of PA]

Bears vs Panthers
Chargers vs Browns
Seahawks vs Lions
Packers vs Jaguars
Jets vs Dolphins
Falcons vs Eagles
Steelers vs Redskins
Pats vs Rams
Colts vs Titans
Raiders vs chiefs
Giants vs Cowboys
Saints vs Broncos
49ers vs Cardinals My upset of the week.

[Kentsland]

Panthers 16 @ 28 Bears
Chargers 24 @ 23 Browns ((Good Game!))
Hawks 28 @ 13 Lions
Jags 17 @ 35 Packers
Dolphins 16 @ 24 Jets
Falcons 35 @ 31 Eagles ((Vick fmbls during 2-min drill))
Redskins 23 @ 20 Steelers ((Skins in OT!))
Patriots 24 @ 26 Rams ((Upset Alert!))
Colts 23 @ 28 Titans
Raiders 16 @ 13 Chiefs ((Boring Game!))
Giants 26 @ 36 Cowboys ((Sort-of Upset!))
Saints 34 @ 26 Broncos ((Predict a great game!))
49ers 13 @ 9 Cardinals

[TaQud]

Pats vs Rams

you REALLY have faith in the Rams lately...

[The Murray Dynasty]

Its Jeff Fisher.

[TaQud]

Jets over Dolphins
chargers over browns
titans over colts
patriots over rams
packers over jaguars
falcons over eagles
steelers over redskins
seahawks over lions
bears over panthers
raiders over chiefs
giants over cowboys
saints over broncos
49ers over cardinals

[Kentsland]

Pats vs Rams

you REALLY have faith in the Rams lately...

I just hate the Patriots.

[United States of PA]

Pats vs Rams

you REALLY have faith in the Rams lately...

They are a good team really. The whole NFC West is right now. Tbh with the AFC North Struggles, i rank the NFC West as the best division in football currently. AFC West and AFC East as the weakest.

Bradford is a good QB, no need to talk about Steven Jackson, Amendola is vastly underrated, Finnegan is one of the best corners in the league. Chris Long? Robert Quinn? I'd kill to have both, or even just one of them in Pittsburgh on our D-line. Laurinitis? Coaching has been the downfall for that Team imho, and Fisher will return them to relevancy by next season.

[Pope Joan]

Dolphins drown
San Diego loses its charge
Colts win, prove Steelers lack D this year
I loathe the Pats, but they still jam the Rams
Without loudmouth Maurice, there is no joy in Jagtown (hint: Trade for Tebow)
If there is a category for "most overrated good team" it goes to Atlanta. Vick could be the most underrated QB; Eagles soar.
A must-win for my Steelers; I can't bear to watch.
Seahawks mostly win at home; Lions roar
Who will Cam blame this time?
Chiefs may want to impress after shakeup; can I predict a tie?
I despise Jason G, so he must lose.
Peyton who? that aging injured guy? Go Big Easy.
"most underrated so-so quarterback" contest; Smith beats Kolb.

[TaQud]

So PA you still think the rams will win?

[Qazox]

I'm not a JETS fan... but they have to put Tebow as QB now, right? They're 3-5, and are below the BUFFALO BILLS in the AFC East.. what do they have to lose??

But according to Dan Fouts (good player, lousy commentator); you run the risk of "breaking" Sanchez' confidence. He's been the QB for 3 1/2 years now, and its obvious he's not the answer for them. So once again, why not throw Tebow out there?

[Gaveo]

I'm not a JETS fan... but they have to put Tebow as QB now, right? They're 3-5, and are below the BUFFALO BILLS in the AFC East.. what do they have to lose??

But according to Dan Fouts (good player, lousy commentator); you run the risk of "breaking" Sanchez' confidence. He's been the QB for 3 1/2 years now, and its obvious he's not the answer for them. So once again, why not throw Tebow out there?

Because Jets ownership is stupid. That and (yes this random) I really hate the Broncos.

Also ATL is 7-0! Whoop!

[Vettrera]

Also ATL is 7-0! Whoop!

[Qazox]

Break up the Browns.. they've won 2 in a row!

Patriots slaughter the Rams...

J-E-T-S SUCK SUCK SUCK! (but what's new?)

Colts looking like a possible playoff team

[Gaveo]

Also ATL is 7-0! Whoop!

Thank you.

Break up the Browns.. they've won 2 in a row!

Patriots slaughter the Rams...

J-E-T-S SUCK SUCK SUCK! (but what's new?)

Colts looking like a possible playoff team

1. Thank god.
2.
3. Well they are playing Sanchez so...

[Christmahanikwanzikah]

J-E-T-S SUCK SUCK SUCK! (but what's new?)

[TaQud]

Break up the Browns.. they've won 2 in a row!

2 out of 3 wins...

[Inky Noodles]

Break up the Browns.. they've won 2 in a row!

QUICK! Get 'em a Lombardi Trophy! This is history in the making.

[Gaveo]

Break up the Browns.. they've won 2 in a row!

QUICK! Get 'em a Lombardi Trophy! This is history in the making.

Taqud is unamused...