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Postby Gaveo » Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:35 pm

Texans 5-0
Falcons 5-0
Super Bowl match?

In my option unlikely but hey, who knows?
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Postby Qazox » Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:05 pm

Gaveo wrote:Texans 5-0
Falcons 5-0
Super Bowl match?

In my option unlikely but hey, who knows?


Odds are one of the 2 might make it there. The last Unbeaten in the NFL has gone to the Super Bowl 9 times in the last 12 years (but only won 5 times)
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Postby TaQud » Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:38 am

Gaveo wrote:Texans 5-0
Falcons 5-0
Super Bowl match?

In my option unlikely but hey, who knows?

have you seen the Falcons recent playoff history?
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Postby Kentsland » Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:39 am

JJ Watt won it for the Texans. No doubt. That man is a beast.

The Jets very well could have won that if it wasn't for him. Well done Mr. Watt, well done.

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Postby Northern Dominus » Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:27 am

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Northern Dominus wrote:It's shocking because this isn't happening in one of the traditional asshole fan havens like Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Oakland or (newly realized) Detroit.
That being said I don't entirely understand the blind hatred for Cassel. I mean he's not Brady, entirely, but the front office didn't exactly do him any favors in the off season by hiring more defensive players over wide receivers and letting go of Pope. Could he be throwing a little better? Yes, but again his receivers have been off the mark a few times in the "highlights" that I've caught on ESPN.
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Hey i resent that Pittsburgh comment . I'm not saying where not asswholes but where usally asswholes to the other team.
Being assholes to the opposing team and their fans still counts as being assholes. I've been at games where Pittsburgh fans cheer loudly and mock opposing players if they go out with an injury, just like their Philadelphia brethren, and are usually just as drunk as well. Sure other fan bases get rowdy and slightly asshole-ish, but even during our biggest rivalry games I and the vast majority of my fellow Bears fans won't cheer wildly for an opposing player injury, let alone one of our own players getting hurt even with a dismal start. Not even Rex Grossman got that kind of abuse.
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Postby United States of PA » Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:53 pm

Northern Dominus wrote:Being assholes to the opposing team and their fans still counts as being assholes. I've been at games where Pittsburgh fans cheer loudly and mock opposing players if they go out with an injury, just like their Philadelphia brethren, and are usually just as drunk as well. Sure other fan bases get rowdy and slightly asshole-ish, but even during our biggest rivalry games I and the vast majority of my fellow Bears fans won't cheer wildly for an opposing player injury, let alone one of our own players getting hurt even with a dismal start. Not even Rex Grossman got that kind of abuse.


Im sorry, but what? Every fan base has its share of assholes, but i have never heard of or seen a Steelers fan cheer a injury, nor has anyone i know. To name Pittsburgh Fans in the same sentence as Philadelphia is incredibly stupid, because no team in the NFL right now can match the shear stupidity and assholeness of the Philly Fan Base.

Last i checked, you dont get run out of Heinz Field more or less for wearing the other teams Jersey.
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Postby Vettrera » Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:58 pm

TaQud wrote:
Gaveo wrote:Texans 5-0
Falcons 5-0
Super Bowl match?

In my option unlikely but hey, who knows?

have you seen the Falcons recent playoff history?

Don't hate.

This year we're making history, not repeating it.

(or at least I hope)
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Postby San-Silvacian » Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:06 pm

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TaQud wrote:have you seen the Falcons recent playoff history?

Don't hate.

This year we're making history, not repeating it.

(or at least I hope)


Oh God. The Falcons don't suck this year. Automatically Superbowl.

When my Pack when 10-0 the year they went and won the Superbowl, I didn't think that OMG SUPERBOWL IS GREEN BAY CUZ SEASON IS GOOD.

Its like Bengals syndrome here.

Win a few games, automatically best team in NFL.

Also, Philly fans are horrible. Last i checked they had a jail in their stadium for fans of different teams.

Steelers fans are aggressive like their playing style, boo fucking hoo you can't ignore them.
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Postby Vettrera » Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:52 pm

San-Silvacian wrote:
Vettrera wrote:Don't hate.

This year we're making history, not repeating it.

(or at least I hope)


Oh God. The Falcons don't suck this year. Automatically Superbowl.

When my Pack when 10-0 the year they went and won the Superbowl, I didn't think that OMG SUPERBOWL IS GREEN BAY CUZ SEASON IS GOOD.

Its like Bengals syndrome here.

Win a few games, automatically best team in NFL.

Also, Philly fans are horrible. Last i checked they had a jail in their stadium for fans of different teams.

Steelers fans are aggressive like their playing style, boo fucking hoo you can't ignore them.

I just meant we'd last past the first round this year...
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Postby TaQud » Tue Oct 09, 2012 3:28 pm

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Postby Gaveo » Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:46 pm

TaQud wrote:
Gaveo wrote:Texans 5-0
Falcons 5-0
Super Bowl match?

In my option unlikely but hey, who knows?

have you seen the Falcons recent playoff history?


Don't remind me... :(

But this year we look very very hot. I believe we could win the Super Bowl. hopefully reality doesn't set in...
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Postby TaQud » Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:54 pm

Gaveo wrote:
TaQud wrote:have you seen the Falcons recent playoff history?


Don't remind me... :(

But this year we look very very hot. I believe we could win the Super Bowl. hopefully reality doesn't set in...

Weird how the top 3 worst records the Falcons have against a team are the...

Browns 0.231 (17 games)
Steelers 0.167 (15 games)
Colts 0.133 (15 games)

out of those 3 teams the Steelers will be the biggest threat if they make it to the super bowl...
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Postby Kentsland » Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:56 pm



I believe a proper "bazinga" is necessarily. Being a Jets fan I love seeing Tom Brady jokes.

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Postby Gaveo » Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:57 pm

TaQud wrote:
Gaveo wrote:
Don't remind me... :(

But this year we look very very hot. I believe we could win the Super Bowl. hopefully reality doesn't set in...

Weird how the top 3 worst records the Falcons have against a team are the...

Browns 0.231 (17 games)
Steelers 0.167 (15 games)
Colts 0.133 (15 games)

out of those 3 teams the Steelers will be the biggest threat if they make it to the super bowl...

Did the Steelers beat ATL when Matty Ice was there? Or have we not faced them yet? If so we m-i-g-h-t be in trouble...
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Postby United Kingdom of Poland » Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:54 pm

Gaveo wrote:
TaQud wrote:Weird how the top 3 worst records the Falcons have against a team are the...

Browns 0.231 (17 games)
Steelers 0.167 (15 games)
Colts 0.133 (15 games)

out of those 3 teams the Steelers will be the biggest threat if they make it to the super bowl...

Did the Steelers beat ATL when Matty Ice was there? Or have we not faced them yet? If so we m-i-g-h-t be in trouble...

a no offense but matty ice hasn't been that great in the playoffs.

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Postby Qazox » Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:04 pm



Wrong sport there Mr. Redlegs... Luckily for Cleveland they own Cincinnati... in Baseball interleague Indians (42–39). In Football: Bengals got ya: (41-36-0).
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Postby Maurepas » Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:52 pm

TaQud wrote:
Gaveo wrote:Texans 5-0
Falcons 5-0
Super Bowl match?

In my option unlikely but hey, who knows?

have you seen the Falcons recent playoff history?

No, because the Saints are coming back to win the division!

...it could happen right? there's still a chance right? RIGHT?!

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Postby Qazox » Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:04 pm

The suspended players:

Vilma: Same length (16 games)
Hargrove: 7 games (down from 8)
Fujita: 1 game (down from 3)
Smith: Same length (4 games)

So after all that whining and crying and having it be in front of an arbitrator... not much changed.
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Postby Maurepas » Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:10 pm

Qazox wrote:The suspended players:

Vilma: Same length (16 games)
Hargrove: 7 games (down from 8)
Fujita: 1 game (down from 3)
Smith: Same length (4 games)

So after all that whining and crying and having it be in front of an arbitrator... not much changed.

And still the only one I lament is Vilma. But, really, the Defense's problems go far beyond Vilma. Losing Smith is a positive loss, :?

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Postby Maurepas » Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:33 pm

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-o ... ted-in-him

I think Scott Fujita(shame the Saints let him go, especially these days) hits the nail on the head, not just with regards to himself, but to the Saints as a whole.

Roger Goodell needs to be fired and I think should be considered for a new title: Worst Commissioner Ever.

Personally, I think he was just afraid that the first hometeam-Superbowl could've been in such a small market as New Orleans and set out to destroy any chance of that happening. If it was in Dallas or New York you wouldn't see any of this bullshit.

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Postby Kentsland » Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:45 pm

Am I the only one who doesn't hate Rodger Goodell?

I mean, he's not good-but not horrible.

I would punish the Saints too. Not only was what they did very unethical, it violated salary cap rules (Not that big of a deal in my opinion, though).

Oh, and in R/L, it's ILLEGAL to pay someone to intentially injure someone. In a sport it's ok to get paid to hurt someone on purpose?
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Postby Maurepas » Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:03 pm

Kentsland wrote:Am I the only one who doesn't hate Rodger Goodell?

I mean, he's not good-but not horrible.

I would punish the Saints too. Not only was what they did very unethical, it violated salary cap rules (Not that big of a deal in my opinion, though).

Oh, and in R/L, it's ILLEGAL to pay someone to intentially injure someone. In a sport it's ok to get paid to hurt someone on purpose?

Which is all fine and good, except there is no evidence of the Saints ever doing that at all. Goodell himself has admitted it and come up with lame excuses to hand out his draconian "punishments" anyway.

Even one of the main guys they talk about, Brett Favre says nothing like that was done to him and the Saints didn't go after him anymore than any other team.

Hell, the Saints have one of, if not the, lowest penalty rates in the ENTIRE LEAGUE, and this is the team that's supposedly the devil incarnate? That just doesn't add up.

The players were paid for performance, like every other team, but that's not the same as putting a hit on someone. Which the team never did, and even Goodell is backing away from. There was an ulterior motive to Goodell's actions, and it was keeping the Saints out of the Superbowl so he didn't miss his big payday in Dallas.

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Postby Kentsland » Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:20 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Kentsland wrote:Am I the only one who doesn't hate Rodger Goodell?

I mean, he's not good-but not horrible.

I would punish the Saints too. Not only was what they did very unethical, it violated salary cap rules (Not that big of a deal in my opinion, though).

Oh, and in R/L, it's ILLEGAL to pay someone to intentially injure someone. In a sport it's ok to get paid to hurt someone on purpose?

Which is all fine and good, except there is no evidence of the Saints ever doing that at all. Goodell himself has admitted it and come up with lame excuses to hand out his draconian "punishments" anyway.

Even one of the main guys they talk about, Brett Favre says nothing like that was done to him and the Saints didn't go after him anymore than any other team.

Hell, the Saints have one of, if not the, lowest penalty rates in the ENTIRE LEAGUE, and this is the team that's supposedly the devil incarnate? That just doesn't add up.

The players were paid for performance, like every other team, but that's not the same as putting a hit on someone. Which the team never did, and even Goodell is backing away from. There was an ulterior motive to Goodell's actions, and it was keeping the Saints out of the Superbowl so he didn't miss his big payday in Dallas.


That's true, I suppose. But wasn't there an audio tape of a player asking for his money & I thought one of the players admitted it?

Plus the DC (Greg Williams, was the name?) is still banned from the NFL, I don't hear anyone (or him) appealing.

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Postby United Kingdom of Poland » Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:22 pm

Maurepas wrote:
Kentsland wrote:Am I the only one who doesn't hate Rodger Goodell?

I mean, he's not good-but not horrible.

I would punish the Saints too. Not only was what they did very unethical, it violated salary cap rules (Not that big of a deal in my opinion, though).

Oh, and in R/L, it's ILLEGAL to pay someone to intentially injure someone. In a sport it's ok to get paid to hurt someone on purpose?

Which is all fine and good, except there is no evidence of the Saints ever doing that at all. Goodell himself has admitted it and come up with lame excuses to hand out his draconian "punishments" anyway.

Even one of the main guys they talk about, Brett Favre says nothing like that was done to him and the Saints didn't go after him anymore than any other team.

Hell, the Saints have one of, if not the, lowest penalty rates in the ENTIRE LEAGUE, and this is the team that's supposedly the devil incarnate? That just doesn't add up.

The players were paid for performance, like every other team, but that's not the same as putting a hit on someone. Which the team never did, and even Goodell is backing away from. There was an ulterior motive to Goodell's actions, and it was keeping the Saints out of the Superbowl so he didn't miss his big payday in Dallas.

you dont think that this is an exageration at all, really

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