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Postby Franklin Delano Bluth » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:49 pm

Putting Dallas in a division where it doesn't play Philly and NYG twice a year is bad for football.

St. Louis is in the West because the Rams came from LA. Again, not having the Rams and the Niners in the same division would be bad for football.
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Postby TaQud » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:51 pm

Franklin Delano Bluth wrote:Rams and the Niners in the same division would be bad for football.

what the? how? :eyebrow:

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Postby Qazox » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:51 pm

Franklin Delano Bluth wrote:Putting Dallas in a division where it doesn't play Philly and NYG twice a year is bad for football.

St. Louis is in the West because the Rams came from LA. Again, not having the Rams and the Niners in the same division would be bad for football.


The Rams ORIGINALLY came from Cleveland. So if anything, they and the Cardinals (orginally from Chicago) need to be in the NFC North, with Minnesota and Dallas in the West and Detroit in the East. :eyebrow:
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Postby TaQud » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:54 pm

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Franklin Delano Bluth wrote:Putting Dallas in a division where it doesn't play Philly and NYG twice a year is bad for football.

St. Louis is in the West because the Rams came from LA. Again, not having the Rams and the Niners in the same division would be bad for football.


The Rams ORIGINALLY came from Cleveland.

there's some NFL History for ya 8)
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Postby Franklin Delano Bluth » Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:07 pm

What enduring rivalries, with teams that are still around, did the Rams establish in those ten years? Because that's the basis of my argument--preserving those rivalries.
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Postby Qazox » Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:27 pm

Franklin Delano Bluth wrote:What enduring rivalries, with teams that are still around, did the Rams establish in those ten years? Because that's the basis of my argument--preserving those rivalries.


The early '50's Rams and the early '50s Browns would've been a good rivalry.. too bad the Rams moved to LA in 1946, while the Browns moved into the NFL in 1950.

The beginning of the "potential rivalry":

1950 and 51: the two teams meet for the NFL title and split the meeting, each winning at home.
1952: Rams lose out on tie-breaker game to Lions who beat Browns for NFL title.
1953/54: Rams finish 3rd, Browns 1st in their divisions.
1955: The two play again for the NFL title, with the Browns winning.

So just before the NFL really took off nationally, a Browns-Rams inter-city rivalry could have been huge.
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Postby TaQud » Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:30 pm

Qazox wrote:1955: The two play again for the NFL title, with the Browns winning.

:bow: :clap: I love savoring that!
Qazox wrote:So just before the NFL really took off nationally, a Browns-Rams inter-city rivalry could have been huge.

we have the Cleveland vs Cincinnati rivalry that is somewhat inner city
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Postby Qazox » Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:01 pm

TaQud wrote:
Qazox wrote:1955: The two play again for the NFL title, with the Browns winning.

:bow: :clap: I love savoring that!
Qazox wrote:So just before the NFL really took off nationally, a Browns-Rams inter-city rivalry could have been huge.

we have the Cleveland vs Cincinnati rivalry that is somewhat inner city


slight difference between inter-city (two teams within the same city) and inner city (the poor part of a downtown of a city).
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Postby Maurepas » Fri Aug 31, 2012 10:22 pm

Franklin Delano Bluth wrote:Putting Dallas in a division where it doesn't play Philly and NYG twice a year is bad for football.

St. Louis is in the West because the Rams came from LA. Again, not having the Rams and the Niners in the same division would be bad for football.

Meh, I don't think those rivalries are all that greatly pronounced anyway. The Eagles/Giants rivalry means so much more than Dallas and any of them. Hell, Dallas and New Orleans have a greater rivalry, I think as far as personal animosity of the fanbase is concerned, just due to the perceived "betrayal" of Shreveport.

I think developing new and/or maintaining more of a geographic rivalry is more interesting and should really be the goal. I mean, I can't imagine many in St. Louis actually care much at all about San Francisco outside of the divisional games.

But there's a personal hatred of Atlanta in New Orleans and the Coast, for example. Of Texas too, for that matter.

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Postby Maurepas » Fri Aug 31, 2012 10:32 pm

TaQud wrote:Welp Somehow Colt McCoy is the Backup and Seneca Wallace is cut...

They should've stuck with someone rather than throwing a new guy out there. You can't just quit on every QB after one or two seasons.

Either the veteran Seneca Wallace or develop Colt McCoy, but giving up on both of them for a rookie I think was a bad move on a team plagued with no talent.

And personally, I would've stuck with McCoy and developed talent to accentuate his skills, personally.

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Postby TaQud » Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:19 am

Maurepas wrote:You can't just quit on every QB after one or two seasons.

welcome to cleveland browns management :rofl:
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Postby Mexo » Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:38 am

Maurepas wrote:
TaQud wrote:Welp Somehow Colt McCoy is the Backup and Seneca Wallace is cut...

Either the veteran Seneca Wallace or develop Colt McCoy, but giving up on both of them for a rookie I think was a bad move on a team plagued with no talent.


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Postby TaQud » Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:40 am

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Maurepas wrote:Either the veteran Seneca Wallace or develop Colt McCoy, but giving up on both of them for a rookie I think was a bad move on a team plagued with no talent.


I don't even think TaQud can argue this.

yeah they have no talent :(
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Postby United States of PA » Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:59 am

TaQud wrote:
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I don't even think TaQud can argue this.

yeah they have no talent :(



You got Joe Thomas, Joe Haden & D'Qwell Jackson, so you cant say no talent.

You are missing 95% of a team though (3 out of 53).
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Postby Williamson » Sat Sep 01, 2012 3:59 pm

TaQud wrote:
Mexo wrote:
I don't even think TaQud can argue this.

yeah they have no talent :(

hey don't think of it like that. Just think that the browns are the best at get the worst talent.

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Postby Forsakia » Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:06 pm

Maurepas wrote:
TaQud wrote:Welp Somehow Colt McCoy is the Backup and Seneca Wallace is cut...

They should've stuck with someone rather than throwing a new guy out there. You can't just quit on every QB after one or two seasons.

Either the veteran Seneca Wallace or develop Colt McCoy, but giving up on both of them for a rookie I think was a bad move on a team plagued with no talent.

And personally, I would've stuck with McCoy and developed talent to accentuate his skills, personally.


Especially a rookie who's in his late 20s so has a shorter potential career span even if he is good (and alongside that they picked a running back, a position that tends to have the shortest career lengths).
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Postby TaQud » Sun Sep 02, 2012 2:18 pm

Can't wait to see the Cowboys Lose and Romo to choke in the 4th Quarter and Giants play!
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Postby Williamson » Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:00 pm

[quote="TaQud";p="10824527"]Can't wait to see the Cowboys Lose and Romo to choke in the 4th Quarter
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Postby TaQud » Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:32 pm

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TaQud wrote:Can't wait to see the Cowboys Lose and Romo to choke in the 4th Quarter
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Postby Delator » Sun Sep 02, 2012 5:00 pm

Franklin Delano Bluth wrote:Putting Dallas in a division where it doesn't play Philly and NYG twice a year is bad for football.


Nobody cares about Dallas' rivalries except for Dallas.

The only untouchable rivalries are GB/Chicago and NYG/Philly. Everything else is fair game.

How about Baltimore and Washington in the same division? Oakland and SF? St. Louis and KC?
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Postby United Kingdom of Poland » Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:15 pm

TaQud wrote:
Mexo wrote:
I don't even think TaQud can argue this.

yeah they have no talent :(

could be worse, buffalo kept 4 QB's and only 4 WR's

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Postby TaQud » Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:27 pm

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TaQud wrote:yeah they have no talent :(

could be worse, buffalo kept 4 QB's and only 4 WR's

and buffalo choked 4 times in a row in the Super Bowl and haven't made the playoffs since 1999
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Postby United Kingdom of Poland » Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:34 pm

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United Kingdom of Poland wrote:could be worse, buffalo kept 4 QB's and only 4 WR's

and buffalo choked 4 times in a row in the Super Bowl and haven't made the playoffs since 1999

sorry still trying to remember the last time the browns were relevent.

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Postby Qazox » Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:04 pm

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TaQud wrote:and buffalo choked 4 times in a row in the Super Bowl and haven't made the playoffs since 1999

sorry still trying to remember the last time the browns were relevent.


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Postby TaQud » Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:11 am

Qazox wrote:
United Kingdom of Poland wrote:sorry still trying to remember the last time the browns were relevent.


Before JFK was assassinated.

basically this (1964 when we won the Championship)
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