How does the GOP maintain the level of support they do?

[The Black Forrest]

I think that it should be your right, but not ridiculousness. No assault arms, no explosive rounds, etc. reasonable restrictions.

what would be reasonable would be assault rifles and pistols as well as sniper rifles, the basics of a militia, obviously rockets and the like are a little extreme, but the average citizen should be able to arm himself like the average infantryman.

In the days when there wasn't a standing army, sure.

There are a great many people (relatives and friends) who I am glad who don't have access to high grade weapons.......

[Frisivisia]

I think that it should be your right, but not ridiculousness. No assault arms, no explosive rounds, etc. reasonable restrictions.

what would be reasonable would be assault rifles and pistols as well as sniper rifles, the basics of a militia, obviously rockets and the like are a little extreme, but the average citizen should be able to arm himself like the average infantryman.

I disagree, I think that a bit worse than the average infantryman would do it, after all, if a large majority expressed concern that there was tyranny in government, that's all they would need. I think assault weapons are out, and submachineguns should require a tough license. Shotguns, hunting rifles, pistols, etc. are ok, because they can be used for hunting, home protection, and, in dire circumstances, war.

[North Calaveras]

what would be reasonable would be assault rifles and pistols as well as sniper rifles, the basics of a militia, obviously rockets and the like are a little extreme, but the average citizen should be able to arm himself like the average infantryman.

In the days when there wasn't a standing army, sure.

There are a great many people (relatives and friends) who I am glad who don't have access to high grade weapons.......

That's nice, I guess since your glad no one else may have them

[Katganistan]

the extremely high pensions

You mean the pensions people earned by NOT having a higher salary? Those pensions?
Jesus Christ, break some more contracts, why don't you? Contracts are GREAT when they are benefiting the corporations, but fuck the working class -- STEAL their benefits!

[Chetssaland]

Hey im just defending an integral part of American cultural that is being withered away

Don't get me wrong, I'm actually pro-gun. One of the few conservative positions I take. I just wanted to use a conservative phrase against you.

[The Black Forrest]

Hey im just defending an integral part of American cultural that is being withered away

Do you seriously think the second amendment was designed to keep the government at bay?

[North Calaveras]

Hey im just defending an integral part of American cultural that is being withered away

Do you seriously think the second amendment was designed to keep the government at bay?

Yes I do, as well as protect us against foriegn threats as well

[The Black Forrest]

In the days when there wasn't a standing army, sure.

There are a great many people (relatives and friends) who I am glad who don't have access to high grade weapons.......

That's nice, I guess since your glad no one else may have them

I don't get your concern. There are many "legal" hunting rifles which are rather effective.

Military weapons? Why?

[The UK in Exile]

That's nice, I guess since your glad no one else may have them

I don't get your concern. There are many "legal" hunting rifles which are rather effective.

Military weapons? Why?

because in his head its 1775.

[North Calaveras]

That's nice, I guess since your glad no one else may have them

I don't get your concern. There are many "legal" hunting rifles which are rather effective.

Military weapons? Why?

A flintlock will still kill to, so why don't we just use them?

[The UK in Exile]

I don't get your concern. There are many "legal" hunting rifles which are rather effective.

Military weapons? Why?

A flintlock will still kill to, so why don't we just use them?

would make more sense given your claim that its an integral part of american culture.

[The Black Forrest]

Do you seriously think the second amendment was designed to keep the government at bay?

Yes I do, as well as protect us against foriegn threats as well

Well? It wasn't and the last "invasion" (I don't really call Attu a "real" invasion) was 1846 by the Mexicans and 1812.

Today it's rather hard to invade and even if we were, much of the country will be devastated first......

[Revolutopia]

its the same thing with democrats with firearms and politcal correctness

Might I ask what Political Correctness laws are you complaining about? Additionally, the GOP loves itself some political correctness also.

[Katganistan]

No defence of the Republicans, no opposition to the claim they use underhanded tactics, just another "The Democrats are bad, too!" attack.

this from the poster that dismissed watergate.

who are you america, who do not know their history?

But see, it's ok, because Republicans SAY so!

[North Calaveras]

Yes I do, as well as protect us against foriegn threats as well

Well? It wasn't and the last "invasion" (I don't really call Attu a "real" invasion) was 1846 by the Mexicans and 1812.

Today it's rather hard to invade and even if we were, much of the country will be devastated first......

Then what was it for oh enlightend one?

[Christian Democrats]

They draw support from the religious, the uneducated, and some rural citizens, with whom their socially conservative ideas carry weight.

Exit Polls for Elections of the U.S. House of Representatives (Level of Education)

Not a high school graduate

1984: 60% Democrat
1986: 57% Democrat
1988: 63% Democrat
1990: 60% Democrat
1992: 67% Democrat
1994: 58% Democrat
1996: 65% Democrat
1998: 58% Democrat
2000: 58% Democrat
2002: 63% Democrat
2004: Tie between parties
2006: 64% Democrat
2008: 69% Democrat
2010: 61% Democrat

TOTAL: 13 Democrats, 1 tie

College graduate

1984: Tie between parties
1986: 54% Republican
1988: 53% Republican
1990: Tie between parties
1992: 54% Republican
1994: 55% Republican
1996: 57% Republican
1998: 55% Republican
2000: 54% Republican
2002: 58% Republican
2004: 53% Republican
2006: Tie between parties
2008: 51% Democrat
2010: 58% Republican

TOTAL: 10 Republicans, 1 Democrat, 3 ties

Source: The New York Times

[North Calaveras]

its the same thing with democrats with firearms and politcal correctness

Might I ask what Political Correctness laws are you complaining about? Additionally, the GOP loves itself some political correctness also.

they both do but Democrats always seem to be the ones who push on about hate speech and the like, and hate crimes(makes no sense lol)

[The Black Forrest]

the extremely high pensions

You mean the pensions people earned by NOT having a higher salary? Those pensions?
Jesus Christ, break some more contracts, why don't you? Contracts are GREAT when they are benefiting the corporations, but fuck the working class -- STEAL their benefits!

Well you leeches really don't do anything. Everybody knows it's the government officials and the corporate execs who earn their salaries. They earn them so much their compensation has grown a few thousand percent in the last 50 years........

[Katganistan]

No. You agreed to pay taxes. That money is yours no longer. It has been snuffed away, fizzled, gone, you are bereft of your money, tis no longer under your jurisdiction anymore.

That doesn't mean however, you can elect candidates to represent you to influence how the government works, vote on a proposition, etc.

I did not agree to pay taxes. And don't give me any ''social contract'' bullshit, I have not agreed to pay taxes in any form, yet I am forced to do so.

You can always not pay your taxes, or live away from society and take none of the benefits like roads, police, fire departments, et cetera.

[Revolutopia]

Might I ask what Political Correctness laws are you complaining about? Additionally, the GOP loves itself some political correctness also.

they both do but Democrats always seem to be the ones who push on about hate speech and the like, and hate crimes(makes no sense lol)

And that is PC how?

Also Hate Speech is not banned in the USA.

[Socialist EU]

People like lower taxes, and they want the government to spend money responsibly.

Most Americans agree with the social views of the Republican Party.

Many people do not want to live in a nanny state.

Etc.

That's funny because most Americans are Democrats, they just don't show up as well to the polls. Imagine that, there are non-white Americans.

Actually, most Americans are non-voters, (about 43%)...I personally do not really care who wins....(Obama or Romney, )

Saluterre said:

All of this, combined with the trouble of the center/right-wing two-party system, lead to the problems in American democracy today. We'd be much better off if the two largest parties were the Socialists and the Libertarians, as opposed to the do-nothing, wishy-washy Democrats and the ham-fisted, authoritarian, lying Republicans. A multi-party system is the only way to produce REAL political representation.

You need patience, the only thing I'm looking out for,(post November elections) is all those non-voters voting for a left party, in other words, I'd consider it a positive result to see a socialist party reach above 5%, or at least get close to that.

[North Calaveras]

they both do but Democrats always seem to be the ones who push on about hate speech and the like, and hate crimes(makes no sense lol)

And that is PC how?

because for some reason elements of the left love the idea of making it against the law to offend someone. But i guess i can't complain to much as there are fringe elements on both sides

[Revolutopia]

And that is PC how?

because for some reason elements of the left love the idea of making it against the law to offend someone. But i guess i can't complain to much as there are fringe elements on both sides

Hate Speech is not banned, thus explain how Hate Crimes are PC and wrong.

[Chetssaland]

And that is PC how?

because for some reason elements of the left love the idea of making it against the law to offend someone. But i guess i can't complain to much as there are fringe elements on both sides

I don't think they want to make it against the law.

[Socialist EU]

So if I come and steal your money while threatening you with a shotgun, it's mine because you gave it to me? Alrighty then!

What are you an anarchist? This stupid anarcho-capitalist argument has been debunked many times.

But if you can't come up with a better argument, well, I have America's finest protecting and I'd like to see you try.

I would say he is closer to the archaic classical liberal ideology.