How does the GOP maintain the level of support they do?

[The Black Forrest]

People like lower taxes, and they want the government to spend money responsibly.

Most Americans agree with the social views of the Republican Party.

Many people do not want to live in a nanny state.

Etc.

Sure they do. Why don't they reject Federal money then?

[Katganistan]

They aren't US citizens. We can take them behind the shed and blow their brains out for their crimes in fighting the US according to the Geneva convention for fighting without a uniform against us. By firing squad, it says.

Are you sure you're reading that correctly?

Of course. Some conservative told him so!

[Frisivisia]

You seem to have this idea that if it wasnt for big bwuther government taking care of its helpless, vulnerable, stupid cattle citizens, they would STARVE and, and, and DIIIIIIIIEEEEEEE!!!!!!

Um no. I would be my ass that no more than a handful of people died from starvation EVEN IN THE GREAT DEPRESSION.

Meanwhile millions dead in the ussr, the exemplification of "state benevolence" and "social safety nets".

Oh, how I love strawmen. Have fun hacking them apart. I in no way support the Soviet Union, for god's sake!
And if you think that dying of starvation is the only bad effect of poverty, then I advise you to do further research.

I love this myth that the USSR was Communist. If you look at policy post-Lenin, it's basically just a dictatorship.

[Frisivisia]

People like lower taxes, and they want the government to spend money responsibly.

Most Americans agree with the social views of the Republican Party.

Many people do not want to live in a nanny state.

Etc.

Sure they do. Why don't they reject Federal money then?

I hate the gubmint, but they better not get mah medicare!

[The Black Forrest]

That's funny because most Americans are Democrats, they just don't show up as well to the polls. Imagine that, there are non-white Americans.

whow that was rascist...

That's true the GOP does like waving that phrase around. Usually under the banner of "the race card."

[Frisivisia]

whow that was rascist...

That's true the GOP does like waving that phrase around. Usually under the banner of "the race card."

Acknowledging race is racism, duh!

[Katganistan]

Right. I couldn't find where you lived on Google Maps, but here's a shot I got from Bruegel the Elder.

why are the people in the lower left corner so tiny?

They're this subspecies of human called.... children.

[The Black Forrest]

Political correctness is getting out of hand, and I don't think that it should be enforced. Firearms law, IMO, should follow California, if a bit stricter.

agreed with the first, terribly disagree with the second

i hate living here(well at least when it come to gun laws)

Then to use a GOP solution, why don't you move then?

[AustriaHungaryBohemia]

Well it is.
Everything else is just touchy-freely liberal lies.
My character example (let's take Andrew Carnegie) rose out of decrepit poverty to riches, so everyone else obviously can too. They're just being lazy.

I take that as an example of the behaviour alluded to in the first line of your signature, good sir...

[Simon Cowell of the RR]

Well it is.
Everything else is just touchy-freely liberal lies.
My character example (let's take Andrew Carnegie) rose out of decrepit poverty to riches, so everyone else obviously can too. They're just being lazy.

I take that as an example of the behaviour alluded to in the first line of your signature, good sir...

Eh, sort of. I wasn't even trying to make that sound reasonable.

[Revolutopia]

both sides have silly ideas, its the same thing with democrats with firearms and politcal correctness

Democrats:

* You can't have that large soda.
* You can't use that lightbulb.
* You can't drive that car.
* You must purchase what we want you to buy.

Funny how the first one was pushed for by an Republican turned Independent, and the second was passed bipartisan under the Bush Administration. Don't know anything about the third one, and the fourth one has long been an Republican idea.

[Cameroi]

they kiss the ass of big money, and brag about doing so. that's their whole enchilada. they don't CARE about POPULAR support, as long as they get monetary support to buy their way into office.
of course there are a lot of mouth breathers who are conned into believing because they call themselves conservative that they are all about keeping things the way they are familiar with. many of whom are small business people, or aspire to be, or are just plain blinded by thinking there is anything in it for them. that's where their votes come from. but the moolah to pay for marketing themselves to them, where that comes from, is all the party and its members, for the most part, give a rats ass about.

don't get me wrong, i know big money has the democrats over a barrel too. the difference is, at least some democrates care a little, and or try to, where as its the republicans who actually BRAG ABOUT selling out.

[Grinning Dragon]

* Most democrats don't agree with Bloomberg's policy.
* Because the other lightbulbs are polluting and last a sixth as long.
* You can get a better car for less, while helping out the air we breathe.
* If it benefits everyone, sure, people should be made to pick the better choice, lest they pick the worst one.

How are incandescent light bulbs more polluting than those florescent ones? I would be more concerned with the mercury in the new bulbs, also the process that makes florescent bulbs pollutes more so than the making of incandescent bulbs.

A better vehicle for less is subjective to anyone buying a new vehicle, it all depends on features and bang for the buck when looking and some how I do not think people buying a new car that their first concern is the affect on air quality.

Why should I have to be forced to pick a choice that is not in my best interests or that of my family? Being forced into something seems to me that it goes against personal responsibility and the right of free will of choice.

[Chetssaland]

both sides have silly ideas, its the same thing with democrats with firearms and politcal correctness

Democrats:

* You can't have that large soda.
* You can't use that lightbulb.
* You can't drive that car.
* You must purchase what we want you to buy.

How about you can't fucking get married to who you want to?

[North Calaveras]

agreed with the first, terribly disagree with the second

i hate living here(well at least when it come to gun laws)

Then to use a GOP solution, why don't you move then?

Because it's a right that is being slowly supressed in my opinion, thus I shouldn't have to move.

[Revolutopia]

and they want the government to spend money responsibly.

-snip-

Many people do not want to live in a nanny state.

That doesn't explain why people vote Republican, saying how the GOP is widely more irresponsible with money and they desperately wish to create a nanny state that forces morality down individuals throats.

[North Calaveras]

Democrats:

* You can't have that large soda.
* You can't use that lightbulb.
* You can't drive that car.
* You must purchase what we want you to buy.

Funny how the first one was pushed for by an Republican turned Independent, and the second was passed bipartisan under the Bush Administration. Don't know anything about the third one, and the fourth one has long been an Republican idea.

republicans want to force you to purchase things? I thought they wanted people to choose which brands they would like?

[Katganistan]

He was briefed, he was also informed that there were 2 - 3 other previous operations that went quite well for the ATF and so he signed off on it. That is not illegal and certainly not worth losing your job over.

So he DID know about it, and DID have something to do with it. Dozens of people died. Nixon lost his job over breaking and entering.

Nixon resigned. And basically, doing your job is very different from what Nixon did. Because breaking and entering, illegal wiretapping, harassment of his opponents misusing the FBI, CIA and IRS to do it, and secretly taping people, then refusing to give over the tapes when properly subpoenaed, and then destroying evidence are all _ _ _ _ _ _. Come on. I'll even help you out. EICMRS.

[Frisivisia]

Then to use a GOP solution, why don't you move then?

Because it's a right that is being slowly supressed in my opinion, thus I shouldn't have to move.

I think that it should be your right, but not ridiculousness. No assault arms, no explosive rounds, etc. reasonable restrictions.

[Revolutopia]

Funny how the first one was pushed for by an Republican turned Independent, and the second was passed bipartisan under the Bush Administration. Don't know anything about the third one, and the fourth one has long been an Republican idea.

republicans want to force you to purchase things? I thought they wanted people to choose which brands they would like?

The individual Mandate was the Republican Free Market answer to socialistic national healthcare.

[North Calaveras]

Because it's a right that is being slowly supressed in my opinion, thus I shouldn't have to move.

I think that it should be your right, but not ridiculousness. No assault arms, no explosive rounds, etc. reasonable restrictions.

what would be reasonable would be assault rifles and pistols as well as sniper rifles, the basics of a militia, obviously rockets and the like are a little extreme, but the average citizen should be able to arm himself like the average infantryman.

[Mike the Progressive]

So he DID know about it, and DID have something to do with it. Dozens of people died. Nixon lost his job over breaking and entering.

Nixon resigned. And basically, doing your job is very different from what Nixon did. Because breaking and entering, illegal wiretapping, harassment of his opponents misusing the FBI, CIA and IRS to do it, and secretly taping people, then refusing to give over the tapes when properly subpoenaed, and then destroying evidence are all _ _ _ _ _ _. Come on. I'll even help you out. EICMRS.

Nixon didn't break and enter, nor is there any proof that he ordered people below him to do so. He did, however try to cover it up and that's where he erred.

[The Black Forrest]

Then to use a GOP solution, why don't you move then?

Because it's a right that is being slowly supressed in my opinion, thus I shouldn't have to move.

The "right" is being suppressed by the people.

Now you understand the garbage of the conservative logic. "If you don't like the state environmental laws, denial of gay rights; move!"

[Chetssaland]

Then to use a GOP solution, why don't you move then?

Because it's a right that is being slowly supressed in my opinion, thus I shouldn't have to move.

"Love or leave it!"

[North Calaveras]

Hey im just defending an integral part of American cultural that is being withered away