How does the GOP maintain the level of support they do?

[Christian Democrats]

that

I was merely pointing out (quite poorly, my apologies) that non-white people tend to vote democratic, and people like him generally think that most of America is in support of the GOP because most "real Americans" who live in the heartland are white. I probably miswrote and thought something without typing it, so this might come out wrong, feel free to point out logical failures so I can patch them.

Look at all of these old white men who served in the cabinet of President Bush:

[Khadgar]

Hippostania. Wanna take a trip to Somalia? It's a paradise. No government! Just the steady hand of the good old free market. You'll love it. I'll even set you up with a flat and EVERYTHING!

Dumb@sses like you have the AUDACITY to get pissed at people for misrepresenting whatever the hell you believe in? Strawman central station!!! I don't know how warring gang factions (which are really warring authoritarian states) are a market concept.

Flaming. Very naughty, if you can't attack the argument, don't attack the poster.

[Flaxxony-Setram]

Eveone here has neglected that the most capitalist places on earth are the ones that AREN'T dead from lack of healthcare.

If it wasn't for the market there would be NO healthcare. Other than tree bark maybe.

Let's see, most capitalist places...

You have Somalia, they're doing fine. China's people are doing fantastic, as is normal. Oh, and the good ole U.S. of A, we have one of the worst systems on a planet. If I remember correctly, CNN did a report on Healthcare, and was told by several experts that the US Healthcare policy was the opposite of how to do things.

Well I see no capitalist systems up there and, in addition, thousands of people come from WESTERN EUROPE for surgery here.

[Frisivisia]

Your constant equating of basic needs such as food and basic medical care to a Ferrari speaks of a worrying lack of life experience.

You seem to have this idea that if it wasnt for big bwuther government taking care of its helpless, vulnerable, stupid cattle citizens, they would STARVE and, and, and DIIIIIIIIEEEEEEE!!!!!!

Um no. I would be my ass that no more than a handful of people died from starvation EVEN IN THE GREAT DEPRESSION.

Meanwhile millions dead in the ussr, the exemplification of "state benevolence" and "social safety nets".

If we stopped foodstamps andwelfare, a good portion of the poor would be without food or money. And a lack of shelter, food, and water often leads to death.

[Flaxxony-Setram]

Dumb@sses like you have the AUDACITY to get pissed at people for misrepresenting whatever the hell you believe in? Strawman central station!!! I don't know how warring gang factions (which are really warring authoritarian states) are a market concept.

Flaming. Very naughty, if you can't attack the argument, don't attack the poster.

If you're going to call me out on it, do it to your fellow socialist toddlers, not just me.

[North Calaveras]

I don't really agree. Blacks and gays aren't lynched like the old days. Barry Goldwater ring a bell.... They are not more extreme today.

"If you want an abortion, you need a doctor to shame you first"
"Mexicans have to carry their papers around, or risk deportation"

These are GOP ideas, which have both been implemented. There's more, I'll find 'em.

both sides have silly ideas, its the same thing with democrats with firearms and politcal correctness

[Frisivisia]

Flaming. Very naughty, if you can't attack the argument, don't attack the poster.

If you're going to call me out on it, do it to your fellow socialist toddlers, not just me.

Calling people toddlers is an insult at intelligence, right? Borderline flaming. And yes, people on our side did it too. That degrades neither argument.

[Frisivisia]

"If you want an abortion, you need a doctor to shame you first"
"Mexicans have to carry their papers around, or risk deportation"

These are GOP ideas, which have both been implemented. There's more, I'll find 'em.

both sides have silly ideas, its the same thing with democrats with firearms and politcal correctness

Political correctness is getting out of hand, and I don't think that it should be enforced. Firearms law, IMO, should follow California, if a bit stricter.

[Arkinesia]

This is not a counter argument, you do realise this. Access to clean water=/= PS3.

Please explain why.

Euh…

Clean water is a necessity for well-being. Furthermore, water qualifies as a human right and thus it makes sense that healthy water that doesn't cause sickness is in essence a human right. It is the fist that hits your nose, if you will, considering everyone needs water.

[North Calaveras]

both sides have silly ideas, its the same thing with democrats with firearms and politcal correctness

Political correctness is getting out of hand, and I don't think that it should be enforced. Firearms law, IMO, should follow California, if a bit stricter.

agreed with the first, terribly disagree with the second

i hate living here(well at least when it come to gun laws)

[Christian Democrats]

both sides have silly ideas, its the same thing with democrats with firearms and politcal correctness

Democrats:

* You can't have that large soda.
* You can't use that lightbulb.
* You can't drive that car.
* You must purchase what we want you to buy.

[The UK in Exile]

Let's see, most capitalist places...

You have Somalia, they're doing fine. China's people are doing fantastic, as is normal. Oh, and the good ole U.S. of A, we have one of the worst systems on a planet. If I remember correctly, CNN did a report on Healthcare, and was told by several experts that the US Healthcare policy was the opposite of how to do things.

Well I see no capitalist systems up there and, in addition, thousands of people come from WESTERN EUROPE for surgery here.

they go to india too. congratulations. you have a healthcare system the equal of a developing nation.

[Frisivisia]

I was merely pointing out (quite poorly, my apologies) that non-white people tend to vote democratic, and people like him generally think that most of America is in support of the GOP because most "real Americans" who live in the heartland are white. I probably miswrote and thought something without typing it, so this might come out wrong, feel free to point out logical failures so I can patch them.

Look at all of these old white men who served in the cabinet of President Bush:

Right, because five or six people in George Bush's cabinet (which in no way represents today's GOP) represent the Republican party.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/142826/republicans-remain-disproportionately-white-religious.aspx

[Saluterre]

1.They represent the interests of the upper class, and so they have greater access to the wallets of the "high and mighty" to push forward their harmful economic liberalism.
2.They draw support from the religious, the uneducated, and some rural citizens, with whom their socially conservative ideas carry weight.
3.They constantly use past tragedies and injustices to scare Americans into supporting imperialistic "defense" tactics.
4.Some educated Americans honestly believe in their policies. I disagree with them, but they have a right to political representation.
5.They use beloved historical figures who were members of the party in their time, but would strongly disagree with their current policies. Specifically, a tall, liberal, Illinois lawyer who believed firmly in the idea of a strong, central government...

All of this, combined with the trouble of the center/right-wing two-party system, lead to the problems in American democracy today. We'd be much better off if the two largest parties were the Socialists and the Libertarians, as opposed to the do-nothing, wishy-washy Democrats and the ham-fisted, authoritarian, lying Republicans. A multi-party system is the only way to produce REAL political representation.

[AustriaHungaryBohemia]

You seem to have this idea that if it wasnt for big bwuther government taking care of its helpless, vulnerable, stupid cattle citizens, they would STARVE and, and, and DIIIIIIIIEEEEEEE!!!!!!

Um no. I would be my ass that no more than a handful of people died from starvation EVEN IN THE GREAT DEPRESSION.

Meanwhile millions dead in the ussr, the exemplification of "state benevolence" and "social safety nets".

Oh, how I love strawmen. Have fun hacking them apart. I in no way support the Soviet Union, for god's sake!
And if you think that dying of starvation is the only bad effect of poverty, then I advise you to do further research.

[Salandriagado]

both sides have silly ideas, its the same thing with democrats with firearms and politcal correctness

Democrats:

* You can't have that large soda.
* You can't use that lightbulb.
* You can't drive that car.
* You must purchase what we want you to buy.

Nope, nope, nope and Republicans, in that order.

[North Calaveras]

both sides have silly ideas, its the same thing with democrats with firearms and politcal correctness

Democrats:

* You can't have that large soda.
* You can't use that lightbulb.
* You can't drive that car.
* You must purchase what we want you to buy.

weird how liberals claim to be the true freedom-lovers huh?

that's why despise both party's because there both hypocrites

dems supposed to be freedom lovers who want equality, yet they just seperate people into more groups and try ot make them feel special and take away freedoms

Reps, same thing when it come to social freedoms(minus guns), yet they argue their religous bullshit

both sides are retarded

[Greed and Death]

No, it hasn't been. It's you who's going to have to debunk why the state is somehow more magical than Walmart or some other big corporation.

But yeah, it's difficult to argue why it something is consentual if I have not given my consent.

Hippostania. Wanna take a trip to Somalia? It's a paradise. No government! Just the steady hand of the good old free market. You'll love it. I'll even set you up with a flat and EVERYTHING!

Somalia is in chaos and lacks a govnerment I would not call it the results of Libertarian or even Anarchist policies.

To really see what caused lets look at the last govnerment to implement policies.
Oh it seems to be a single party communist state before.

[North Calaveras]

Democrats:

* You can't have that large soda.
* You can't use that lightbulb.
* You can't drive that car.
* You must purchase what we want you to buy.

Nope, nope, nope and Republicans, in that order.

don't remember republicans advocating forced purchase of products through private enterprise...though the new healthcare mandate make dems look a bit pushy, forcing you to buy or pay a penatly

[Arkinesia]

Democrats:

* You can't have that large soda.
* You can't use that lightbulb.
* You can't drive that car.
* You must purchase what we want you to buy.

Nope, nope, nope and Republicans, in that order.

In what alternate reality did Democrat legislators not play a large role in the law that will end incandescent bulb production in the next couple of years, exactly?

I actually support the measure but eh.

[Frisivisia]

both sides have silly ideas, its the same thing with democrats with firearms and politcal correctness

Democrats:

* You can't have that large soda.
* You can't use that lightbulb.
* You can't drive that car.
* You must purchase what we want you to buy.

* Most democrats don't agree with Bloomberg's policy.
* Because the other lightbulbs are polluting and last a sixth as long.
* You can get a better car for less, while helping out the air we breathe.
* If it benefits everyone, sure, people should be made to pick the better choice, lest they pick the worst one.

[Silent Majority]

Nope, nope, nope and Republicans, in that order.

don't remember republicans advocating forced purchase of products through private enterprise...though the new healthcare mandate make dems look a bit pushy, forcing you to buy or pay a penatly

The healthcare mandate was a idea created by the Heritage Foundation, and introduced by Republicans as an alternative to the Clinton plan in the 1990s.

[Frisivisia]

Nope, nope, nope and Republicans, in that order.

don't remember republicans advocating forced purchase of products through private enterprise...though the new healthcare mandate make dems look a bit pushy, forcing you to buy or pay a penatly

It was a Republican idea, and it would not have been added, had the GOP not filibustered and quagmired the law into oblivion. And it's still a good law.

[Chetssaland]

Because for most people in America, the person that talks the loudest must be right. Plus the Republicans are the champions of "family values" and "the good ole days." That same group of people that believes the loudest are correct are the same that blindly accept their parents values and beliefs, and usually the older generation's values line up with those same "family values" and "the good ole days."

And Americans love memes and chain messages/graphs/charts/emails/etc, even if they're incorrect. And, at least from what I see, there are more GOP things being shared on Facebook or whatever than Democrat things.

[Simon Cowell of the RR]

You seem to have this idea that if it wasnt for big bwuther government taking care of its helpless, vulnerable, stupid cattle citizens, they would STARVE and, and, and DIIIIIIIIEEEEEEE!!!!!!

Um no. I would be my ass that no more than a handful of people died from starvation EVEN IN THE GREAT DEPRESSION.

Meanwhile millions dead in the ussr, the exemplification of "state benevolence" and "social safety nets".

Oh, how I love strawmen. Have fun hacking them apart. I in no way support the Soviet Union, for god's sake!
And if you think that dying of starvation is the only bad effect of poverty, then I advise you to do further research.

Well it is.
Everything else is just touchy-freely liberal lies.
My character example (let's take Andrew Carnegie) rose out of decrepit poverty to riches, so everyone else obviously can too. They're just being lazy.