Hetairos wrote:Well yes, but to be honest, if I was around at that time, I would probably believed in it, as would most of you, because there was no alternative. It was the only way they could come to terms with how the world around them came about, and we shouldn't judge them on that. Particularly as there was no (real) form of science then.
I know, however it shouldn't be taken as correct now that we know better.
Veilyonia wrote:The Church has already openly admitted that Intelligent Design does not take precedence over the theory of evolution. The Church does believe in evolution, but popular belief prevents many people from knowing that.
I don't like the way you treat "the Church" as one unified entity -- there are hundreds of different churches, with varying views. Also, I didn't say that the church believed in ID anyway, I just said that I didn't.
Free Soviets wrote:sure thing
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Nobodishal wrote:I believe in microevolution (commonly known as natural selection, though this is not the only component of micro evolution) but not macroevolution (the belief that over millions or billions of years one species [such as a fish] evolves into another completely different and reproductively isolated species [such as a frog] through a combination of factors such as natural selection, mutations, etc.). My main reasons for this are my religious beliefs (I am a biblical creationist), my scientific knowledge, and logic.
If anyone wants more information I will be watching this thread and will respond to PM's on the subject.
You can't have one without the other. Macro-evolution is merely accumulated micro-evolution. As a population slowly changes it will eventually have diverged enough to be counted as a different species. I'd like to know the scientific knowledge and logic reasons for you believing this.
Mt Id wrote:First off, I am a Christian but that isn't why I don't agree with evolution. I've actually looked into it and found many gaps in this theory and also had many pointed out to me. Two of the main ones are:
1-Transitional Species. From what I have seen there are many missing links in the evolutionary chain that haven't been accounted for. This following is just an example so it probably isn't accurate but the evolutionary chain shows something that looks like an alligator suddenly becoming an ape like creature with no inbetween steps.
Of course there are "missing links". We have fossils, and the fossil record is far from complete. However, it is a very useful resource when studying the progression of life.
Mt Id wrote:2-The explosion of creatures at the beginning. The earliest fossil records show that they went from single cell organisms to a plethora of actual creatures. Now I'm not sure how evolution tries to explain that, but I thought evolution was supposed to be a slow process, not suddenly having many many new organisms appear all at once.
The speed at which evolution occurs is dependent on the speed at which species mutate and reproduce. For short-lived species (lasting, for example, a day or so) mutations can very quickly cause changes. For species with longer generations, however, it will be a much slower process. Also, the speed at which new organisms appear will vary a lot. If there aren't many unused habitats then there will be fierce competition, and less chance of adaptation. For untapped habitats, however, early species will have it much easier.
Mt Id wrote:I don't have time to mention anymore since i'm heading out, but thought I'd put at least those in for consideration. I understand that evolution happens, but I don't think that it is possible for it to happen on such a wide scale as it apparently had to have done in order to get the diversity of life we have on the planet today. I can understand natural selection and even as Christian I have no problem with that, but those changes are MINOR to what needed to happen so that we changed from single cell organisms to humanoid beings.
Any one particular change will be minor. The idea of evolution, however, is that changes accumulate and stay around. As for single-celled organisms to humanoid beings: this took around 3.5 billion years at least, it's not like it was overnight. It was the case of a massive number of small changes, each of which was no great leap.