All Y’all Atheists.

[Greater Shoggothia]

The first copy of the "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" parable we have is from around 200 B.C.

Yep, nothing copied there.

Lack of originality does not mean intentional plagiarism.

Do you realize how desperate this sounds?

[Mavorpen]

Lack of originality does not mean intentional plagiarism.

Who cares if it was intentional? This is like saying, "Look, I shouldn't go to jail for killing this guy for drunk driving. My intention was to get home drunk, not to kill him!"

[United Dependencies]

All of you all

Y'all Atheist would be a better title.

[Demon Cleaner]

I didn't say "steal." I said he copied many other teachings and put them in a way that would make sense with how God would view morality. So of course they are similar, because he took them from past philosophers. You stated that his teachings were the most tolerant. If he just took them from past philosophers, obviously his teachings aren't the most tolerant.

I did not say they are the most tolerant. I said they are as tolerant as you can get. This means that the philosophies of Buddhism and Jainism would be on the same level, as they preach the same ideas.

Educate yourself.

I was expecting something from a New Testament scholar, or something similar. No, it was a comedian.

And I did NOT say they are immoral. Stop creating straw men.

Fair enough; you didn't.

I said they are a joke, because they are.

I can't help but notice the circularity of your logic.

They are primitive and there is little to no depth to them whatsoever.

This seems like more of an ad hominem attack on his teachings rather than an actual refutation of them.

Philosophies such as the Noble Eightfold Path and the Triple Gems of Jainism are much more moral, and logical.

If you say that Jesus copied all his teachings from Eastern religions, then how is it better or worse than them? I thought they would be equal if the New Testament takes from them.

[Mavorpen]

I did not say they are the most tolerant. I said they are as tolerant as you can get. This means that the philosophies of Buddhism and Jainism would be on the same level, as they preach the same ideas.

So wait a minute. You said they are as tolerant as you can get, but you didn't mean they are the most tolerant? That makes absolutely no sense, at all. And no, Buddhism and Jainism aren't on the same level as Christianity when it comes to morals. When it comes to morals, the levels are Jainism>Buddhism>Christianity.

I was expecting something from a New Testament scholar, or something similar. No, it was a comedian.

I was expecting you to explain why he's wrong.

I can't help but notice the circularity of your logic.

I can't help but notice your dodging of the point. Explain how they are in any way logical.

This seems like more of an ad hominem attack on his teachings rather than an actual refutation of them.

...Did you watch the video?

If you say that Jesus copied all his teachings from Eastern religions, then how is it better or worse than them? I thought they would be equal if the New Testament takes from them.

Please. Learn to read. Please, PLEASE stop pretending that I'm saying things I'm not.

[Greater Shoggothia]

I didn't say "steal." I said he copied many other teachings and put them in a way that would make sense with how God would view morality. So of course they are similar, because he took them from past philosophers. You stated that his teachings were the most tolerant. If he just took them from past philosophers, obviously his teachings aren't the most tolerant.

I did not say they are the most tolerant. I said they are as tolerant as you can get. This means that the philosophies of Buddhism and Jainism would be on the same level, as they preach the same ideas.

Educate yourself.

I was expecting something from a New Testament scholar, or something similar. No, it was a comedian.

And I did NOT say they are immoral. Stop creating straw men.

Fair enough; you didn't.

I said they are a joke, because they are.

I can't help but notice the circularity of your logic.

They are primitive and there is little to no depth to them whatsoever.

This seems like more of an ad hominem attack on his teachings rather than an actual refutation of them.

Philosophies such as the Noble Eightfold Path and the Triple Gems of Jainism are much more moral, and logical.

If you say that Jesus copied all his teachings from Eastern religions, then how is it better or worse than them? I thought they would be equal if the New Testament takes from them.

Oh you want an actual refutation of the ten commandments?

Okay: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwxvawKq_W8

[Macenheim]

the truth about God, if anyone has ever read the Bible, is that he gives us the choice between good and evil. God didn't desire Adam and Eve to choose pride over sanctuary, but we are the greatest of His creations because we have free will and are considered above the Heavenly angels. So I don't buy anyone saying they can just get along without God. Its like saying that if you jump out of an airplane from 10,000 feet in the air, without a parachute, you'll survive simply because you think you'll just hit the ground and live. And for all you people who are experiencing a crisis of faith, don't focus on dogma or doctrine or too much biblical study; the best thing for you is prayer and worship. because In the end it doesn't matter how much you KNOW about God; it matters how well you accepted whatever you DIDN'T know about Him, what you took on faith. "Blessed are they that have not seen and still believe." (please excuse my absence of acknowledgement of passage.)

[The Federated States of Chezchosiberia]

ATTENTION MY FELLOW CHRISTIANS
Athiests,they don't belive in anything, they are smaller and weaker ( in terms of size and influence )than christians.
Their all going to HELL anyway so when we are all dead we can laugh at them from our mansions in HEAVEN
Why do Athiests even need a forum?
So they can talk about everything that they don't belive in?
To complain about how Christians are trying to convert them every time they mention god?
(Paranoia)

"The Christians are trying to convert me, ALWAYS trying to convert me"
-every atheists EVER!!!!!

The guy who made this thread was looking for a fight, (typical Atheist)
he wanted to take a dump on our beliefs so he could feel better about his, like a bully, and this is true about all Atheists.
Yep that's right, don't feel sorry for atheists when they tell you they were bullied because now they are the bullies.
The deepest pit in hell is reserved for Atheists.

My belief in God is sound
it's as solid as the ground
and no servent of damnation
will ever shake its foundation

[Mavorpen]

the truth about God, if anyone has ever read the Bible, is that he gives us the choice between good and evil. God didn't desire Adam and Eve to choose pride over sanctuary, but we are the greatest of His creations because we have free will and are considered above the Heavenly angels. So I don't buy anyone saying they can just get along without God. Its like saying that if you jump out of an airplane from 10,000 feet in the air, without a parachute, you'll survive simply because you think you'll just hit the ground and live. And for all you people who are experiencing a crisis of faith, don't focus on dogma or doctrine or too much biblical study; the best thing for you is prayer and worship. because In the end it doesn't matter how much you KNOW about God; it matters how well you accepted whatever you DIDN'T know about Him, what you took on faith. "Blessed are they that have not seen and still believe." (please excuse my absence of acknowledgement of passage.)

Please, explain how God did not desire for Adam and Eve to sin if he didn't create them perfect and if he knew they would commit the sin in the first place.

[The Blaatschapen]

the truth about God, if anyone has ever read the Bible, is that he gives us the choice between good and evil. God didn't desire Adam and Eve to choose pride over sanctuary, but we are the greatest of His creations because we have free will and are considered above the Heavenly angels. So I don't buy anyone saying they can just get along without God. Its like saying that if you jump out of an airplane from 10,000 feet in the air, without a parachute, you'll survive simply because you think you'll just hit the ground and live. And for all you people who are experiencing a crisis of faith, don't focus on dogma or doctrine or too much biblical study; the best thing for you is prayer and worship. because In the end it doesn't matter how much you KNOW about God; it matters how well you accepted whatever you DIDN'T know about Him, what you took on faith. "Blessed are they that have not seen and still believe." (please excuse my absence of acknowledgement of passage.)

Good that you don't buy me. I would hate to become a slave.

[Veladio]

the truth about God, if anyone has ever read the Bible, is that he gives us the choice between good and evil. God didn't desire Adam and Eve to choose pride over sanctuary, but we are the greatest of His creations because we have free will and are considered above the Heavenly angels. So I don't buy anyone saying they can just get along without God. Its like saying that if you jump out of an airplane from 10,000 feet in the air, without a parachute, you'll survive simply because you think you'll just hit the ground and live. And for all you people who are experiencing a crisis of faith, don't focus on dogma or doctrine or too much biblical study; the best thing for you is prayer and worship. because In the end it doesn't matter how much you KNOW about God; it matters how well you accepted whatever you DIDN'T know about Him, what you took on faith. "Blessed are they that have not seen and still believe." (please excuse my absence of acknowledgement of passage.)

Well...what about just getting a different parachute, like I did?

[Greater Shoggothia]

ATTENTION MY FELLOW CHRISTIANS
Athiests,they don't belive in anything, they are smaller and weaker ( in terms of size and influence )than christians.
Their all going to HELL anyway so when we are all dead we can laugh at them from our mansions in HEAVEN
Why do Athiests even need a forum?
So they can talk about everything that they don't belive in?
To complain about how Christians are trying to convert them every time they mention god?
(Paranoia)

"The Christians are trying to convert me, ALWAYS trying to convert me"
-every atheists EVER!!!!!

The guy who made this thread was looking for a fight, (typical Atheist)
he wanted to take a dump on our beliefs so he could feel better about his, like a bully, and this is true about all Atheists.
Yep that's right, don't feel sorry for atheists when they tell you they were bullied because now they are the bullies.
The deepest pit in hell is reserved for Atheists.

My belief in God is sound
it's as solid as the ground
and no servent of damnation
will ever shake its foundation

Very nice.

Long... but pointless.

4/10.

[Divair]

ATTENTION MY FELLOW CHRISTIANS
Athiests,they don't belive in anything, they are smaller and weaker ( in terms of size and influence )than christians.
Their all going to HELL anyway so when we are all dead we can laugh at them from our mansions in HEAVEN
Why do Athiests even need a forum?
So they can talk about everything that they don't belive in?
To complain about how Christians are trying to convert them every time they mention god?
(Paranoia)

"The Christians are trying to convert me, ALWAYS trying to convert me"
-every atheists EVER!!!!!

The guy who made this thread was looking for a fight, (typical Atheist)
he wanted to take a dump on our beliefs so he could feel better about his, like a bully, and this is true about all Atheists.
Yep that's right, don't feel sorry for atheists when they tell you they were bullied because now they are the bullies.
The deepest pit in hell is reserved for Atheists.

My belief in God is sound
it's as solid as the ground
and no servent of damnation
will ever shake its foundation

2/10.
Too obvious.

[Veladio]

ATTENTION MY FELLOW CHRISTIANS
Athiests,they don't belive in anything, they are smaller and weaker ( in terms of size and influence )than christians.
Their all going to HELL anyway so when we are all dead we can laugh at them from our mansions in HEAVEN
Why do Athiests even need a forum?
So they can talk about everything that they don't belive in?
To complain about how Christians are trying to convert them every time they mention god?
(Paranoia)

"The Christians are trying to convert me, ALWAYS trying to convert me"
-every atheists EVER!!!!!

The guy who made this thread was looking for a fight, (typical Atheist)
he wanted to take a dump on our beliefs so he could feel better about his, like a bully, and this is true about all Atheists.
Yep that's right, don't feel sorry for atheists when they tell you they were bullied because now they are the bullies.
The deepest pit in hell is reserved for Atheists.

My belief in God is sound
it's as solid as the ground
and no servent of damnation
will ever shake its foundation

...wow, talk about intolerance. The deepest pit is reserved for atheists? Not murderers or child molesters... I hope to the GODS that this is satire

[Seperates]

the truth about God, if anyone has ever read the Bible, is that he gives us the choice between good and evil. God didn't desire Adam and Eve to choose pride over sanctuary, but we are the greatest of His creations because we have free will and are considered above the Heavenly angels. So I don't buy anyone saying they can just get along without God. Its like saying that if you jump out of an airplane from 10,000 feet in the air, without a parachute, you'll survive simply because you think you'll just hit the ground and live. And for all you people who are experiencing a crisis of faith, don't focus on dogma or doctrine or too much biblical study; the best thing for you is prayer and worship. because In the end it doesn't matter how much you KNOW about God; it matters how well you accepted whatever you DIDN'T know about Him, what you took on faith. "Blessed are they that have not seen and still believe." (please excuse my absence of acknowledgement of passage.)

Why? What has prayer and worship ever done for anyone? I'll tell you. Nothing that can't be done by simple relaxation or meditation.

Have you ever heard the saying "God helps those who help themselves"? Well, that's because God doesn't do anything because he doesn't exist.

Adam and Eve never existed, so your conjecture is pointless.

[The Blaatschapen]

ATTENTION MY FELLOW CHRISTIANS
Athiests,they don't belive in anything, they are smaller and weaker ( in terms of size and influence )than christians.
Their all going to HELL anyway so when we are all dead we can laugh at them from our mansions in HEAVEN
Why do Athiests even need a forum?
So they can talk about everything that they don't belive in?
To complain about how Christians are trying to convert them every time they mention god?
(Paranoia)

"The Christians are trying to convert me, ALWAYS trying to convert me"
-every atheists EVER!!!!!

The guy who made this thread was looking for a fight, (typical Atheist)
he wanted to take a dump on our beliefs so he could feel better about his, like a bully, and this is true about all Atheists.
Yep that's right, don't feel sorry for atheists when they tell you they were bullied because now they are the bullies.
The deepest pit in hell is reserved for Atheists.

My belief in God is sound
it's as solid as the ground
and no servent of damnation
will ever shake its foundation

If the deepest pit is reserved for us, would that make us Satan?

[The Federated States of Chezchosiberia]

ATTENTION MY FELLOW CHRISTIANS
Athiests,they don't belive in anything, they are smaller and weaker ( in terms of size and influence )than christians.
Their all going to HELL anyway so when we are all dead we can laugh at them from our mansions in HEAVEN
Why do Athiests even need a forum?
So they can talk about everything that they don't belive in?
To complain about how Christians are trying to convert them every time they mention god?
(Paranoia)

"The Christians are trying to convert me, ALWAYS trying to convert me"
-every atheists EVER!!!!!

The guy who made this thread was looking for a fight, (typical Atheist)
he wanted to take a dump on our beliefs so he could feel better about his, like a bully, and this is true about all Atheists.
Yep that's right, don't feel sorry for atheists when they tell you they were bullied because now they are the bullies.
The deepest pit in hell is reserved for Atheists.

My belief in God is sound
it's as solid as the ground
and no servent of damnation
will ever shake its foundation

Very nice.

Long... but pointless.

4/10.

Well I do love a good rant

[Macenheim]

I'll tell you why you are allowed to screw up. God is a father to us all and every just father allows his children freedom to follow him or their own desires. And God did not create us perfectly, but of His own image meaning that we are modeled after God but we are inferior to him because we are not the same as God.

[Demon Cleaner]

So wait a minute. You said they are as tolerant as you can get, but you didn't mean they are the most tolerant? That makes absolutely no sense, at all.

I stated that the principles of not judging others, doing onto others as you would have them do onto you, and other teachings were as tolerant as you could get. If any other religion is teaching the same moral statements, then they must be on the same level, not below it, as they are the same teachings.

When I say ''not the most tolerant'', all I am trying to do is say that I don't think what Jesus taught is better than any Eastern religion, as it's mostly the same.

And no, Buddhism and Jainism aren't on the same level as Christianity when it comes to morals. When it comes to morals, the levels are Jainism>Buddhism>Christianity.

I would say that Jainism = Buddhism = Jesys, but have it your way.

I was expecting you to explain why he's wrong.

Present the argument yourself. I'm not refuting a link to a YouTube video from a dead comedian. If I linked WLC giving his five arguments for the existence of God, it would not be fair for me to expect you to refute it all.

I can't help but notice your dodging of the point. Explain how they are in any way logical.

Not judging other people when you're not perfect is logical, because doing so would be hypocritical and self-defeating.

Doing onto others as you would have them do onto you is logical, because you should extend the same moral rights to others you would want to be extended by other people to yourself. You wouldn't expect to be treated nicely by others if you treated them like dirt.

...Did you watch the video?

I was referring to what you were saying, not Dr.Carlin, professor of Systematic Theology.

Please. Learn to read.

Please stop acting like things such as ''learn to read'' and ''educate yourself'' are actual arguments and not personal attacks that ruin the productivity of the discussion.

Please, PLEASE stop pretending that I'm saying things I'm not.

The only conclusion I can get from ''The teachings of Jesus are not original'' is that they must be equal to the same teachings that came before him. If everything Jesus said completely unoriginal and taken from Buddhism, Jainism, etc., then why are they logical and deep, when his are illogical and primitive?

[Big Jim P]

All of you all

Y'all Atheist would be a better title.

You have to realize not everyone speaks properly.

[Wamitoria]

-SNIP-

Yes, the deepest pit is reserved for atheists. Not for child molesters, rapists, mass murderers, etc.

This kind of shit is why I'm a Deist.

[Greater Shoggothia]

I'll tell you why you are allowed to screw up. God is a father to us all and every just father allows his children freedom to follow him or their own desires. And God did not create us perfectly, but of His own image meaning that we are modeled after God but we are inferior to him because we are not the same as God.

If one of my kids tried to kill the other, I would intervene.

Your god is a very bad parent.

[The Federated States of Chezchosiberia]

ATTENTION MY FELLOW CHRISTIANS
Athiests,they don't belive in anything, they are smaller and weaker ( in terms of size and influence )than christians.
Their all going to HELL anyway so when we are all dead we can laugh at them from our mansions in HEAVEN
Why do Athiests even need a forum?
So they can talk about everything that they don't belive in?
To complain about how Christians are trying to convert them every time they mention god?
(Paranoia)

"The Christians are trying to convert me, ALWAYS trying to convert me"
-every atheists EVER!!!!!

The guy who made this thread was looking for a fight, (typical Atheist)
he wanted to take a dump on our beliefs so he could feel better about his, like a bully, and this is true about all Atheists.
Yep that's right, don't feel sorry for atheists when they tell you they were bullied because now they are the bullies.
The deepest pit in hell is reserved for Atheists.

My belief in God is sound
it's as solid as the ground
and no servent of damnation
will ever shake its foundation

...wow, talk about intolerance. The deepest pit is reserved for atheists? Not murderers or child molesters... I hope to the GODS that this is satire

Murder and Child Molestation are not as Amoral ( no concept of morality ) as Atheism

[Veladio]

I'll tell you why you are allowed to screw up. God is a father to us all and every just father allows his children freedom to follow him or their own desires. And God did not create us perfectly, but of His own image meaning that we are modeled after God but we are inferior to him because we are not the same as God.

Tell me why I'm living a happier life with a different...parachute?

[Veladio]

...wow, talk about intolerance. The deepest pit is reserved for atheists? Not murderers or child molesters... I hope to the GODS that this is satire

Murder and Child Molestation are not as Amoral ( no concept of morality ) as Atheism

Amoral>Immoral