All Y’all Atheists.

[Seperates]

The majority of atheists that I know that have become depressed in their atheism, are so not because of their atheism, but because of parental rejection and/or isolation and rejection from peer groups. Adn they will eventually get over it if anybody is willing to give them a shoulder to lean on. Rejecting an idea that has more or less been pushed onto your whole life is difficult, stressful, and because it typically occurs midst highschool or college, the condition can be exacerbated because this is the time in your life when you are establishing your peer groups.

And it's even harder to establish peer groups when my ISP keeps blocking the pirate bay

That to. *completely serious face*

[Demon Cleaner]

The majority of atheists that I know that have become depressed in their atheism, are so not because of their atheism, but because of parental rejection and/or isolation and rejection from peer groups. Adn they will eventually get over it if anybody is willing to give them a shoulder to lean on. Rejecting an idea that has more or less been pushed onto your whole life is difficult, stressful, and because it typically occurs midst highschool or college, the condition can be exacerbated because this is the time in your life when you are establishing your peer groups.

It is usually not the fault of the atheist, but the fault of the society. I may debate with my friends (if they push the point) who are of different religions, and throughly disprove them and demolish their arguenments until they usually say "Let's agree to disagree", but in the end, they are still my friends, and I will happily help them through a difficult time, whatever the cause is.

Well, I have many atheist friends and we just agree not to discuss religion. Some of them come from religious families and I'm always there for them when their parents reject them. Just saying religious =/= intolerant.

I contend that the teachings of Jesus Christ are as tolerant as you can get.

[Mavorpen]

I contend that the teachings of Jesus Christ are as tolerant as you can get.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

No.

[Veladio]

Well, I have many atheist friends and we just agree not to discuss religion. Some of them come from religious families and I'm always there for them when their parents reject them. Just saying religious =/= intolerant.

I contend that the teachings of Jesus Christ are as tolerant as you can get.

Yeah no...and again, not a Christian

[The Blaatschapen]

Well, I have many atheist friends and we just agree not to discuss religion. Some of them come from religious families and I'm always there for them when their parents reject them. Just saying religious =/= intolerant.

I contend that the teachings of Jesus Christ are as tolerant as you can get.

Too bad that many of his pupils aren't as tolerant as him

And no, I did not say that all Christians are intolerant, just that a significant amount are (just as a significant amount of other people are intolerant)

[Seperates]

The majority of atheists that I know that have become depressed in their atheism, are so not because of their atheism, but because of parental rejection and/or isolation and rejection from peer groups. Adn they will eventually get over it if anybody is willing to give them a shoulder to lean on. Rejecting an idea that has more or less been pushed onto your whole life is difficult, stressful, and because it typically occurs midst highschool or college, the condition can be exacerbated because this is the time in your life when you are establishing your peer groups.

It is usually not the fault of the atheist, but the fault of the society. I may debate with my friends (if they push the point) who are of different religions, and throughly disprove them and demolish their arguenments until they usually say "Let's agree to disagree", but in the end, they are still my friends, and I will happily help them through a difficult time, whatever the cause is.

Well, I have many atheist friends and we just agree not to discuss religion. Some of them come from religious families and I'm always there for them when their parents reject them. Just saying religious =/= intolerant.

This is true. But you would be hard pressed to find any atheist parents who would reject their child should they join the ministry. Hell, even Romney's father-in-law, a staunch and outspoken atheist, did not reject his daughter when she married a whishy-washy conservative, Mormon, politician.

[Divair]

Well, I have many atheist friends and we just agree not to discuss religion. Some of them come from religious families and I'm always there for them when their parents reject them. Just saying religious =/= intolerant.

I contend that the teachings of Jesus Christ are as tolerant as you can get.

Yea, no..

[Demon Cleaner]

I contend that the teachings of Jesus Christ are as tolerant as you can get.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

No.

I respectfully disagree. I feel that principles such as not judging others, doing onto others as you would have them do onto you, and keeping the commandments would allow us to have a tolerant society. As he said, who are you to judge others for the speck of sawdust in their eyes, when you have a plank in yours?

[Seperates]

Well, I have many atheist friends and we just agree not to discuss religion. Some of them come from religious families and I'm always there for them when their parents reject them. Just saying religious =/= intolerant.

I contend that the teachings of Jesus Christ are as tolerant as you can get.

I contend that they are stupid and nonsensical. If he was truely tolerant, then belief would not be required to go to heaven.

[Mavorpen]

I contend that the teachings of Jesus Christ are as tolerant as you can get.

Yea, no..

[Demon Cleaner]

I contend that the teachings of Jesus Christ are as tolerant as you can get.

Too bad that many of his pupils aren't as tolerant as him

And no, I did not say that all Christians are intolerant, just that a significant amount are (just as a significant amount of other people are intolerant)

I won't pretend that I have not deviated from his teachings. That in itself would be another violation of his teachings. I would agree that the immoral actions committed by some people under the banner of Christianity is an unfortunate event.

I do not think you said all Christians are intolerant. I was replying mostly to the last sentence of the post.

[Veladio]

Well, I have many atheist friends and we just agree not to discuss religion. Some of them come from religious families and I'm always there for them when their parents reject them. Just saying religious =/= intolerant.

This is true. But you would be hard pressed to find any atheist parents who would reject their child should they join the ministry. Hell, even Romney's father-in-law, a staunch and outspoken atheist, did not reject his daughter when she married a whishy-washy conservative, Mormon, politician.

I would also look at the generational gap...many of my Christian peers are very accepting of not only my religious beliefs but also of atheists, hindus, and buddhists. My parents are also pretty accepting, yet they are very religious Christians.

[Mavorpen]

I respectfully disagree. I feel that principles such as not judging others, doing onto others as you would have them do onto you, and keeping the commandments would allow us to have a tolerant society. As he said, who are you to judge others for the speck of sawdust in their eyes, when you have a plank in yours?

Guess what? Not judging others, and the Golden Rule were not created by Jesus. He simply copied and pasted most, if not all of his moral teachings. The commandments are a joke.

[Demon Cleaner]

Yea, no..

I don't see any contradictions between Buddhist and Christian moral teachings.

[The Blaatschapen]

Too bad that many of his pupils aren't as tolerant as him

And no, I did not say that all Christians are intolerant, just that a significant amount are (just as a significant amount of other people are intolerant)

I won't pretend that I have not deviated from his teachings. That in itself would be another violation of his teachings. I would agree that the immoral actions committed by some people under the banner of Christianity is an unfortunate event.

I do not think you said all Christians are intolerant. I was replying mostly to the last sentence of the post.

I just put it in to ensure that people would not try to pin that one on me. There are some very nice religious people out there, even here on NSG

[Mavorpen]

I don't see any contradictions between Buddhist and Christian moral teachings.

Probably because Jesus' teachings weren't original whatsoever.

[Greater Shoggothia]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

No.

I respectfully disagree. I feel that principles such as not judging others, doing onto others as you would have them do onto you, and keeping the commandments would allow us to have a tolerant society. As he said, who are you to judge others for the speck of sawdust in their eyes, when you have a plank in yours?

"Luke 19:27 - But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."

"Revelation 2:20 - Nevertheless, I have this against you: You tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess. By her teaching she misleads my servants into sexual immorality and the eating of food sacrificed to idols."

Oh yeah, I'm just feeling the tolerance poring over me.

[Seperates]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

No.

I respectfully disagree. I feel that principles such as not judging others, doing onto others as you would have them do onto you, and keeping the commandments would allow us to have a tolerant society. As he said, who are you to judge others for the speck of sawdust in their eyes, when you have a plank in yours?

That was 'be sure before you check your neighbor's eyes for splinters, be sure there is not one in your own.'

And respectfully, the whole not judging thing is more or less impossible for the human mind to do. Now then, how you proceed to act on your judgment is a completely different story. In my case, if my nieghbor had a splinter in his eye, I would tell him about it, I wouldn't ridicule him, but I would inform him of the splinter.

Subsequently, I would expect that if I had a splinter in my eye, he would tell me about it.

Jesus's solution to the problem is to shut up and let it fester. Mine is to actually try and fix it.

[Demon Cleaner]

I respectfully disagree. I feel that principles such as not judging others, doing onto others as you would have them do onto you, and keeping the commandments would allow us to have a tolerant society. As he said, who are you to judge others for the speck of sawdust in their eyes, when you have a plank in yours?

Guess what? Not judging others, and the Golden Rule were not created by Jesus. He simply copied and pasted most, if not all of his moral teachings. The commandments are a joke.

I do not believe that there is any evidence that his moral teachings were stolen from others. They are, of course, similar. However, how we came to state those teachings has no bearing on how tolerant those teachings are.

When asked how to be a good person, Jesus stated to keep the commandments. He listed these as ''Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor your father and mother, and love you neighbor as yourself''. I see nothing immoral about these concepts.

[Veladio]

I respectfully disagree. I feel that principles such as not judging others, doing onto others as you would have them do onto you, and keeping the commandments would allow us to have a tolerant society. As he said, who are you to judge others for the speck of sawdust in their eyes, when you have a plank in yours?

"Luke 19:27 - But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."

"Revelation 2:20 - Nevertheless, I have this against you: You tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess. By her teaching she misleads my servants into sexual immorality and the eating of food sacrificed to idols."

Oh yeah, I'm just feeling the tolerance poring over me.

Well...to be fair, the bible has also gone through many translations. Ive seen evidence that in an older translation Jesus confirmed a Gay couple. I shall endeavor to find a source for that.

Source: Source Maybe not the most obviously unbiased, but they are dealing with translations so I don't see anything wrong with it

[Demon Cleaner]

I don't see any contradictions between Buddhist and Christian moral teachings.

Probably because Jesus' teachings weren't original whatsoever.

This has no bearing on how tolerant his teachings are.

[Greater Shoggothia]

Guess what? Not judging others, and the Golden Rule were not created by Jesus. He simply copied and pasted most, if not all of his moral teachings. The commandments are a joke.

I do not believe that there is any evidence that his moral teachings were stolen from others. They are, of course, similar. However, how we came to state those teachings has no bearing on how tolerant those teachings are.

When asked how to be a good person, Jesus stated to keep the commandments. He listed these as ''Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor your father and mother, and love you neighbor as yourself''. I see nothing immoral about these concepts.

The first copy of the "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" parable we have is from around 200 B.C.

Yep, nothing copied there.

[Mavorpen]

I do not believe that there is any evidence that his moral teachings were stolen from others. They are, of course, similar. However, how we came to state those teachings has no bearing on how tolerant those teachings are.

I didn't say "steal." I said he copied many other teachings and put them in a way that would make sense with how God would view morality. So of course they are similar, because he took them from past philosophers. You stated that his teachings were the most tolerant. If he just took them from past philosophers, obviously his teachings aren't the most tolerant.

When asked how to be a good person, Jesus stated to keep the commandments. He listed these as ''Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor your father and mother, and love you neighbor as yourself''. I see nothing immoral about these concepts.

Educate yourself. And I did NOT say they are immoral. Stop creating straw men. I said they are a joke, because they are. They are primitive and there is little to no depth to them whatsoever. Philosophies such as the Noble Eightfold Path and the Triple Gems of Jainism are much more moral, and logical.

[Mavorpen]

Probably because Jesus' teachings weren't original whatsoever.

This has no bearing on how tolerant his teachings are.

Yes, it does. It automatically proves your claim his teachings were the most tolerant is incorrect.

[Demon Cleaner]

I do not believe that there is any evidence that his moral teachings were stolen from others. They are, of course, similar. However, how we came to state those teachings has no bearing on how tolerant those teachings are.

When asked how to be a good person, Jesus stated to keep the commandments. He listed these as ''Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor your father and mother, and love you neighbor as yourself''. I see nothing immoral about these concepts.

The first copy of the "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" parable we have is from around 200 B.C.

Yep, nothing copied there.

Lack of originality does not mean intentional plagiarism.