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Postby The Blaatschapen » Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:04 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Nordengrund wrote:
I can see that. I am all for freedom of religion, but I am against freedom from religion.

If you are against freedom from religion then you aren't actually in favor of freedom of religion, as one is an integral part of the other.


In Dutch we'd translate both as the same. Silly Anglophones :p
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Postby Dyakovo » Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:04 pm

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Considering the amount of theists who commit crimes, lie, cheat, and steal, and believe they can get away with it by praying away/confessing the sins, that's an invalid statement.

Your conscience and character play a far bigger role than fear of having a pitchfork shoved up your ass after you die.

Atheist commit on average, more crimes than theists.

Source?
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:07 pm

Cu Math wrote:
Intonisia wrote:hmmmmmmmmmmmmm im a christian who has afew athiest freinds that dont try to push athiesm on me and ive never pushed mine on them so we're pretty cool but this one guy just out of the blue came up to me and was like dude god is abuncha bull god is this or the belif in god is that and i was like OK good for you and just walked away thoughs athiests i cant stand, who hate christians and act like they have a head on there shoulders talking down my religion and every other that isnt athiest when realy they arent so special and there just like the rest of us
that go's for fellow christians to if you try to down someones belife and then feel high and mighty for it that aint very christian like now is it. threds like your opinon on god or anti athiesm are just created by sick wierdos who just want to see howmany people are at eachothers throught's before the thred dies. and i dislike people who try to make others feel sorry for there beliefs that includes these so called christans who make fun of others for not saying under god in the plegde of aleagance , so if any one agrees with me then say somthing to all of thoughs bone heads aathiest christian and any other religioun who try to make threds like your opinion on god or is there a god and things like that tell them that they need to stop making people go at eatchother in arguing and make peace

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Postby Dyakovo » Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:09 pm

The Merchant Republics wrote:As a Christian, I've always been bothered by the depiction of God as "sky-daddies", or just some bearded guy in the clouds. Besides the concept of the Heaven being the sky, there really isn't any treatment of heaven as being "in the clouds", at least not since the middle ages, and even then it was metaphorical not literal.

Sorry, just had to say that.

Other than that, since I feel I should contribute, I'm often taken aback at how poorly atheists are treated by Christians. I may not like you're decision to not believe in God, but I understand that it is your decision, that it doesn't make you evil or indeed any less capable of good.

I do hope too that it wasn't Christians that led you away from Christ, since that is perhaps the worst thing a Christian can do.

I was never "led away from christ" I just never had any need for a super-powered imaginary friend.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:10 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
The Merchant Republics wrote:As a Christian, I've always been bothered by the depiction of God as "sky-daddies", or just some bearded guy in the clouds. Besides the concept of the Heaven being the sky, there really isn't any treatment of heaven as being "in the clouds", at least not since the middle ages, and even then it was metaphorical not literal.

Sorry, just had to say that.

Other than that, since I feel I should contribute, I'm often taken aback at how poorly atheists are treated by Christians. I may not like you're decision to not believe in God, but I understand that it is your decision, that it doesn't make you evil or indeed any less capable of good.

I do hope too that it wasn't Christians that led you away from Christ, since that is perhaps the worst thing a Christian can do.

I was never "led away from christ" I just never had any need for a super-powered imaginary friend.

Though if Tony Stark is available, I won't say no.

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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:11 pm

Nakorin wrote:The end of all wicked people will come on judgement day.


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Postby Divair » Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:12 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Nakorin wrote:The end of all wicked people will come on judgement day.


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Postby Der Landstreicher » Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:13 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Nakorin wrote:The end of all wicked people will come on judgement day.


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Postby Mavorpen » Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:13 pm

Divair wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
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And I beat you.


I know.
"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."—former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman

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Postby Dyakovo » Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:13 pm

Johz wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:No, I don't think it is at all hypocritical.
Just because you have the right to express your religion, does not mean that the government can endorse a religion.

But if a particular government worker wore, say, a cross or a burqa, is the government endorsing a religion? If a child says in the classroom "But everyone knows God doesn't exist", can a teacher say "Well actually, I'd disagree with you here, here and here"?

Government employees wearing a symbol of their faith is not a problem. A teacher voicing her personal beliefs (unless carefully couched as being solely his/her personal beliefs) in the classroom is not okay.
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Postby Veladio » Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:13 pm

Nakorin wrote:The end of all wicked people will come on judgement day.


And according to your religion, the end of all people who don't beileve in your "savior" will be condemned to hell, even if they are good honest people.
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Postby Intonisia » Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:14 pm

thors the one with the hammer
ns ww2: defeat
deneager intonisian conflict: victory
simonian civil war: victory
intonisian_ezmexican war: victory
panem civil war : withdrawl
port charrlote invasion : withdrawl


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Postby Cu Math » Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:14 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Cu Math wrote:Get some periods, please.

Periods only happen once a month.

unless you take too much vitamin C
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Postby Dyakovo » Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:15 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:No, it really isn't.
All atheism is is the lack of belief in a deity or deities.


Dya, don't continue the feeding. His posts are only getting worse (including holocaust denial). It's not worth it :)

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:15 pm

Intonisia wrote:thors the one with the hammer


And Stanley Kirk Burrell is his prophet.
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Postby The Merchant Republics » Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:20 pm

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The Merchant Republics wrote:It wasn't the unicorns was it? I got worried about that until I read up about it and realized unicorn is a modern appropriation of the word that meant Rhinoceros. Why it's never been changed to Rhino is beyond me.

Honestly, the hardest thing in the Bible for me to understand was the bears mauling the kids for mocking someone's (might have been Elijah, but I can't remember off-hand) lack of hair.

I mean sure, the guy was a prophet, but that seems a little brutal. I'm not going to pretend that I have a right to judge God, but it's a bit odd as far as retribution goes.

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:lol: Why thank you!

I never knew how those worked... I've never added a friend just because I always assumed it would do something, and I never understood what, and never really cared enough to investigate.
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Postby Oterro » Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:22 pm

Can we have a thread for non golfers too?

What about those of us who don't paint?

I've always wanted to talk to people like me who can't play the drums.
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Postby The Merchant Republics » Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:23 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
The Merchant Republics wrote:As a Christian, I've always been bothered by the depiction of God as "sky-daddies", or just some bearded guy in the clouds. Besides the concept of the Heaven being the sky, there really isn't any treatment of heaven as being "in the clouds", at least not since the middle ages, and even then it was metaphorical not literal.

Sorry, just had to say that.

Other than that, since I feel I should contribute, I'm often taken aback at how poorly atheists are treated by Christians. I may not like you're decision to not believe in God, but I understand that it is your decision, that it doesn't make you evil or indeed any less capable of good.

I do hope too that it wasn't Christians that led you away from Christ, since that is perhaps the worst thing a Christian can do.

I was never "led away from christ" I just never had any need for a super-powered imaginary friend.


I suppose I can understand that way of thinking. If I believed God was just in my head, I'd likely not have need of Him either.

But if Tony Stark sends me an invitation to be his best friend... Who cares if no one else believes he exists? :p
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:23 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
Dya, don't continue the feeding. His posts are only getting worse (including holocaust denial). It's not worth it :)

I'm preparing for the olympics... Troll-poking is going to be an official sport in the 2016 olympics.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:26 pm

The Merchant Republics wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:I was never "led away from christ" I just never had any need for a super-powered imaginary friend.


I suppose I can understand that way of thinking. If I believed God was just in my head, I'd likely not have need of Him either.

But if Tony Stark sends me an invitation to be his best friend... Who cares if no one else believes he exists? :p

Idea stealing bastard...
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Postby Dyakovo » Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:27 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:I'm preparing for the olympics... Troll-poking is going to be an official sport in the 2016 olympics.
*nods*


You'll be disqualified since NSG is considered to be a performance enhancing drug.

Damn it! The fucking IOC sucks...
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Postby Genivaria » Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:43 pm

The Merchant Republics wrote:
Genivaria wrote:See this?^ This is why your on my friends list.


:lol: Why thank you!

I never knew how those worked... I've never added a friend just because I always assumed it would do something, and I never understood what, and never really cared enough to investigate.

Just helps me keep track of those posters I respect.
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